From rboul@club-internet.fr Sat Jun 1 00:00:23 2002 From: rboul@club-internet.fr (Romain Boulanger) Date: 01 Jun 2002 01:00:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] Problem with evolution Message-ID: <1022886024.3937.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I have a problem with evolution. I crashed my computer. The file mbox in /home/user/evolution/local/Trash seemed to have been deleted, I just created a new one. but now, when I try to delete some messages in folders with evolution, I get this error : Error during "Folder cleaning": summary and folder don't corresepond, even after synchronisation. (translated back from French, maybe not exactly these terms in English...) Can you help me please (I'm quite a newbie...) From cru@ircnet.de Sat Jun 1 13:08:35 2002 From: cru@ircnet.de (Veit Wahlich) Date: 01 Jun 2002 14:08:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Problems writing configuration files after last update Message-ID: <1022933317.1046.26.camel@instructor.localnet> --=-phTtthE2gbVymwfeO12u Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list! After updating Ximian Gnome with RedCarpet on May 28 or 29, I have some trouble with multiple programs: - The drivemount_applet refused saving its status, it comes up on every login with default configuration. - The panel itself refuses saving its status. E.g. moved applets and icons come up on the old position on next start up. I had to create a new panel and to re-arrange it, but after second logout the same happened to the new panel as to the old. - Some other programs give me a failure when exiting, indicating problems writing configuration files: E.g. gtetrinet on STDERR: failure writing /home/cru/.gnome/gtetrinet: Inappropriate ioctl for device It is a RH 7.2+Ximian Gnome box, up to date, /home is on ReiserFS, kernel is 2.4.18.=20 What happened to my system? Would be happy with any suggestions. Thanks & regards, // Veit An strace for this "failed call" looks like this: open("/home/cru/.gnome/gtetrinet-LVg3g8", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0600) =3D 12 fchmod(12, 0644) =3D 0 fcntl64(0xc, 0x3, 0xbffff888, 0) =3D 2 fstat64(12, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D0, ...}) =3D 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =3D 0x4002b000 _llseek(12, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) =3D 0 ioctl(12, 0x5401, 0xbffff5c0) =3D -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) write(12, "\n[", 2) =3D 2 write(12, "Placement]\n", 11) =3D 11 write(12, "Dock=3DToolbar\\\\0,1,0,0\\\\Menubar\\\\"..., 40) =3D 40 write(12, "\n[", 2) =3D 2 write(12, "History: MidiCmd]\n", 18) =3D 18 write(12, "0=3Dwhile true; do playmidi $MIDIF"..., 42) =3D 42 write(12, "1=3Dwhile true; do timidity -Oe 1S"..., 58) =3D 58 write(12, "\n[", 2) =3D 2 write(12, "History: Nickname]\n", 19) =3D 19 write(12, "0=3DCru\n", 6) =3D 6 write(12, "\n[", 2) =3D 2 write(12, "History: Server]\n", 17) =3D 17 write(12, "0=3Dircnet.de\n", 12) =3D 12 write(12, "\n[", 2) =3D 2 write(12, "Themes]\n", 8) =3D 8 write(12, "ThemeDir=3D/usr/share/gtetrinet/th"..., 46) =3D 46 write(12, "\n[", 2) =3D 2 write(12, "Sound]\n", 7) =3D 7 write(12, "MidiPlayer=3Dwhile true; do playmi"..., 51) =3D 51 write(12, "EnableSound=3D1\n", 14) =3D 14 write(12, "EnableMidi=3D1\n", 13) =3D 13 write(12, "\n[", 2) =3D 2 write(12, "Player]\n", 8) =3D 8 ioctl(2, 0x5401, 0xbffff710) =3D -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) write(2, "failure writing /home/cru/.gnome"..., 75failure writing /home/cru/.gnome/gtetrinet: Inappropriate ioctl for device ) =3D 75 write(12, "Nickname=3D", 9) =3D 9 close(12) =3D 0 munmap(0x4002b000, 4096) =3D 0 unlink("/home/cru/.gnome/gtetrinet-LVg3g8") =3D 0 --=-phTtthE2gbVymwfeO12u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 Comment: Project-Id-Version: gnupg-1.0.4\nPOT-Creation-Date: 2001-05-29 08:58+0200\nPO-Revision-Date: 2001-04-16 14:20+0200\nLast-Translator: Walter Koch \nLanguage-Team: German \nMIME-Version: 1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n iD8DBQA8+LlDrDxCW1octZcRAkA1AJ0QUuT96Abk1t6UI7Acmg3tKxZi9QCgn2Lb 5UeXlq2DYmmihCWQIRpsJdI= =w365 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-phTtthE2gbVymwfeO12u-- From ppberns@hvc.rr.com Sun Jun 2 14:53:34 2002 From: ppberns@hvc.rr.com (Phil Bernstein) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 09:53:34 -0400 Subject: [Users] file locations Message-ID: <200206020953.34872.ppberns@hvc.rr.com> Hi, I have recently installed ximian gnome over the stock gnome that came with redhat 7.3. I have found that ximina has changed and moved several locations to files and directories (ex: gnome games are now in /usr/games). I have tried to use other programs (such as abiword) and all I get are error messages about it not being able tofind certain files it needs. Can someone shed some light on this? Shouldn't the install have updated the location of these files? If it created a new directory shouldn't it have updated the programs that are looking for it's files? This is a concern for me at this moument. What are my options at this point? Do I need to check all the gnome programs to see if they work and edit them myself to find there files? Do I reinstall ximian to see if that fixes it? Do I uninstall (if that is possible) ximian and re-install stock gnome? If there are any docs with the above info, where can I find it? Thanks -- Philip Bernstein ppberns@hvc.rr.com Home Page: http://pbernst.tripod.com From hzuehl@athene.dnsalias.org Sun Jun 2 15:36:45 2002 From: hzuehl@athene.dnsalias.org (Hauke Joachim Zuehl) Date: 02 Jun 2002 16:36:45 +0200 Subject: [Users] Evolution 1.0.5: Cannot reply to PGP-encrypted messages Message-ID: <1023028605.1918.7.camel@fafnir> Hi all, I found another problem with evolution 1.0.5: A mail which was PGP/GPG encrypted is readable in the mail pane but if I want to reply to the mail evolution quotes the encrypted text and not the clear text. Same with forwarded mails. I checked it with a mail to myself and with a mail from a friend. Checking bugzilla showed comments that PGP is dead (huh?) but it seemed that this bug is known but there might be problems how different mailreaders handle PGP/GPG mails. Any hints? Regards, Hauke -- Gefunden im Heise-Forum: Linux entwickelt genau denselben Monopoltrieb wie Microsoft. Und das mit denselben Methoden: Gnadenloses Dumping und damit Ausbooten von Konkurrenten. From davidgn@servidor.unam.mx Mon Jun 3 00:28:23 2002 From: davidgn@servidor.unam.mx (David Eduardo Gomez Noguera) Date: 02 Jun 2002 18:28:23 -0500 Subject: [Users] wish Message-ID: <1023060522.14877.3.camel@hikaru> Hello. This might already be supported but i dont know, so i think this would be cool. Some way to browse/reply/store mailing list that come in digest, as to be able to reply to only one message. Thank you. bye bye! (would be cool if i could code it myself, but i'm afraid i would get lost in the code pretty soon.) -- ICQ: 15605359 Bicho =^..^= First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Mahatma Gandhi. -------------------------------‹CŒŸ‘̂̈ê’v------------------------------------ ‹‚³Š¦‚³‚à”ފ݂܂ŁB —ö‚ɂµ‚µ‚傤‚ȂµB—ö‚͂µ‚ ‚ñ‚̑¼B ƒAƒ“ ƒAƒ“ ƒAƒ“ ‚ƂBĂà‘åD‚« From vesperini@loa.univ-lille1.fr Mon Jun 3 11:30:47 2002 From: vesperini@loa.univ-lille1.fr (=?iso-8859-1?Q?mich=E8le_vesperini?=) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:30:47 +0200 (METDST) Subject: [Users] attached documents with evolution Message-ID: About evolution: I would like to know how to save a message without the attached document. So far, I can "save to the disk" the attached document with the contextual menu of the attached document. Is it possible to add a "move to the disk" to the contextual menu of the attached document, or to have an option that would automatically save all attached documents in a dedicated folder thank you michele vesperini . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Michle Vesperini vesperini@loa.univ-lille1.fr Laboratoire d'Optique Atmospherique tel: (+33) 3 20 33 61 90 Universite de Lille 1 (USTL) - bat P5 fax: (+33) 3 20 43 43 42 59655 Villeneuve D'Ascq Cedex France From sunny@cc.gatech.edu Mon Jun 3 20:38:45 2002 From: sunny@cc.gatech.edu (Sunmeet Saluja) Date: 03 Jun 2002 15:38:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] Importing Microsoft IE Bookmarks into Galeon Message-ID: <1023133125.30043.27.camel@tazenda> When I switched from Microsoft Windows 2000 to Linux from my primary desktop, I did save my bookmarks (the favorites folder) on a CD. It would be really nice if I could import those bookmarks into Galeon, as I use it as my default browser. Is that something doable, and if so how??? Thanks for all your help!! Cheers, Sunmeet. -- Sunmeet Saluja College of Computing Georgia Institute of Technology Email: sunny@cc.gatech.edu Phone: (404)385-2893 From thunder@ximian.com Mon Jun 3 20:43:30 2002 From: thunder@ximian.com (Dan Mills) Date: 03 Jun 2002 15:43:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] Importing Microsoft IE Bookmarks into Galeon In-Reply-To: <1023133125.30043.27.camel@tazenda> References: <1023133125.30043.27.camel@tazenda> Message-ID: <6x7klgm9lp.fsf@localhost.localdomain> Mozilla may be able to import them. And galeon can import them from mozilla. If that doesn't work out, you could probably write a script to do it. But I've never done it, so I don't know how. -Dan Sunmeet Saluja writes: > When I switched from Microsoft Windows 2000 to Linux from my primary > desktop, I did save my bookmarks (the favorites folder) on a CD. It > would be really nice if I could import those bookmarks into Galeon, as I > use it as my default browser. Is that something doable, and if so > how??? > > Thanks for all your help!! > > Cheers, > Sunmeet. > > > -- > > Sunmeet Saluja > College of Computing > Georgia Institute of Technology > Email: sunny@cc.gatech.edu > Phone: (404)385-2893 > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- "I could carve a better man out of a banana." --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" From dobey@ximian.com Mon Jun 3 21:35:43 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 03 Jun 2002 16:35:43 -0400 Subject: [Users] Importing Microsoft IE Bookmarks into Galeon In-Reply-To: <6x7klgm9lp.fsf@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023133125.30043.27.camel@tazenda> <6x7klgm9lp.fsf@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023136543.13298.2.camel@beatbox> There are scripts available on http://freshmeat.net/ that can convert between various bookmarks formats. -- dobey On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 15:43, Dan Mills wrote: Mozilla may be able to import them. And galeon can import them from mozilla. If that doesn't work out, you could probably write a script to do it. But I've never done it, so I don't know how. -Dan Sunmeet Saluja writes: > When I switched from Microsoft Windows 2000 to Linux from my primary > desktop, I did save my bookmarks (the favorites folder) on a CD. It > would be really nice if I could import those bookmarks into Galeon, as I > use it as my default browser. Is that something doable, and if so > how??? > > Thanks for all your help!! > > Cheers, > Sunmeet. > > > -- > > Sunmeet Saluja > College of Computing > Georgia Institute of Technology > Email: sunny@cc.gatech.edu > Phone: (404)385-2893 > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- "I could carve a better man out of a banana." --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From craig@ip80.com Mon Jun 3 23:34:57 2002 From: craig@ip80.com (Craig Williams) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:34:57 +0100 Subject: [Users] (no subject) Message-ID: <008601c20b4e$e3edc3c0$f100a8c0@water> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C20B57.45B22BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C20B57.45B22BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
 
------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C20B57.45B22BC0-- From craig@ip80.com Mon Jun 3 23:36:34 2002 From: craig@ip80.com (Craig Williams) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:36:34 +0100 Subject: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( Message-ID: <008c01c20b4f$1d61b620$f100a8c0@water> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C20B57.7F261E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. Suse8.0 ? any ideas ? C ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C20B57.7F261E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
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------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C20B57.7F261E20-- From brissing@vexcel.com Mon Jun 3 23:59:23 2002 From: brissing@vexcel.com (Dean Brissinger) Date: 03 Jun 2002 16:59:23 -0600 Subject: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: <008c01c20b4f$1d61b620$f100a8c0@water> References: <008c01c20b4f$1d61b620$f100a8c0@water> Message-ID: <1023145164.11419.170.camel@binks.vexcel.com> On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 16:36, Craig Williams wrote: > I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". > > After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. > > Suse8.0 ? > > any ideas ? What is the error message (exactly as on screen please)? Without knowing what your computer is complaining about there's no way to figure out how to make it happy. :-) From judah@opusnet.com Tue Jun 4 00:22:40 2002 From: judah@opusnet.com (Aaron Baer) Date: 03 Jun 2002 16:22:40 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: <008c01c20b4f$1d61b620$f100a8c0@water> References: <008c01c20b4f$1d61b620$f100a8c0@water> Message-ID: <1023146560.30234.35.camel@laptop> Well for one thing it didn't break "your linux" .. What happened is that X Windows, which runs on top of of the linux kernel as an application, had it's configuration changed during the installation and now is not functioning properly for your video card and resolution capabilities. Log in as root at the console and try using sax2 from the command line to reconfigure X.. I'm not an avid SuSe user so there might be someone else lurking that can point you in a more clear direction. The main point is your linux is not broken... Have patience, Have fun, in time everything will come naturally, A- On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 15:36, Craig Williams wrote: > I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". > > After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. > > Suse8.0 ? > > any ideas ? > > C -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ From dado@wildbrain.com Tue Jun 4 02:42:58 2002 From: dado@wildbrain.com (Dado Feigenblatt) Date: 03 Jun 2002 18:42:58 -0700 Subject: [Users] Automatically sign reply messages with signature file In-Reply-To: <1022774619.8868.2.camel@axis15.private.axis-dev.com> References: <1022771021.10579.9.camel@jurkd.mrrm.ca> <1022774619.8868.2.camel@axis15.private.axis-dev.com> Message-ID: <1023154979.24174.134.camel@daedelus.wildbrain.com> Do you have more than one account configured in evolution? Check if all of them have your signature. Why I have many accounts if I have only one IMAP/POP server: If you have multiple mail accounts, evolution will chose one of them to send the email "from". I'm not sure exactly what's the criteria, but lets say I had signed up to this list as ximian@mypersonalserver.com and that address forwards to my work. In evolution I create a "fake" account for that address. No POP/IMAP server. Just my work's SMTP server. When replying to this message, evolution would match the email addresses and use that account to compose and send this reply, instead of my default work account. I have a few of those accounts. Could this be your case? On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 09:03, Robert Goshko wrote: > On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 09:03, Dragan Jurkovic wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there any way to have "replied messages" signed automatically with > > signature file, the same way as new messages are signed? > > This happens on my system automagically, and I do not see a > configuration option to change this. My sig attached to this replay > with no intervention from my self. > > I might possibly be the type of reply, I have mine set to "quoted". > > This is with version 1.0.5, what version are you running? > > -- > ...Rob > > ===================================================================== > Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc > President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada > http://www.axis-dev.com/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World > ===================================================================== > Registered Linux User #260513 > > 10:00am up 3:38, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.12, 0.09 -- Dado Feigenblatt Wild Brain, Inc. Technical Director (415) 553-8000 dado@wildbrain.com San Francisco, CA. From ldlane@citlink.net Tue Jun 4 04:53:06 2002 From: ldlane@citlink.net (Lance Lance) Date: 03 Jun 2002 20:53:06 -0700 Subject: [Users] Problem with Control Center 1.4 Message-ID: <1023162788.2361.7.camel@linux> --=-9fz1OVFytA4oFW/RoalC Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have Ximian for Suse 8.0. When I go into the control panel to change my background the control panel looks strange. 1. The top of my control panel has the directories of *MISSIINGNAME* for the top level and Pilot preferences. 2. When I click on Background Preferences I get the following error message: Application "background-properties-capplet" has crashed due to fatal error. Segmentation fault. If anyone could help I would appreciate it! Lance Lane --=-9fz1OVFytA4oFW/RoalC Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hello, 

I have Ximian for Suse 8.0.  When I go into the control panel to change my background the control panel looks strange.

1. The top of my control panel has the directories of *MISSIINGNAME* for the top level and Pilot preferences.

2. When I click on Background Preferences I get the following error message:

Application "background-properties-capplet" has crashed due to fatal error. Segmentation fault.


If anyone could help I would appreciate it!

Lance Lane
--=-9fz1OVFytA4oFW/RoalC-- From mildness@earthlink.net Tue Jun 4 04:33:25 2002 From: mildness@earthlink.net (Bill Burton) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:33:25 -0500 Subject: [Users] Ximian over SuSe 8 install tips? Message-ID: Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid, when installing Ximian Desktop over SuSE 8? TIA, Beal From ldlane@citlink.net Tue Jun 4 06:04:38 2002 From: ldlane@citlink.net (Lance Lance) Date: 03 Jun 2002 22:04:38 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ximian over SuSe 8 install tips? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023167082.3185.3.camel@linux> --=-BTHtX40BdWIfiWRqUXAh Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill, As I mentioned earlier the only problem I had was when I tried to go into the control center. I downloaded Red Carpet first and then downloaded the desktop. You have to do all of the downloading and installing in root. Red Carpet will not respond to your root password if you use it out of root. Otherwise things seem to work fine. Lance On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 20:33, Bill Burton wrote: Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid, when installing Ximian Desktop over SuSE 8? TIA, Beal _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users --=-BTHtX40BdWIfiWRqUXAh Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Bill,

As I mentioned earlier the only problem I had was when I tried to go into the control center.  I downloaded Red Carpet first and then downloaded the desktop.  You have to do all of the downloading and installing in root. Red Carpet will not respond to your root password if you use it out of root.

Otherwise things seem to work fine.

Lance


On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 20:33, Bill Burton wrote: 
Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid, when installing Ximian Desktop over SuSE 8?

TIA,

Beal



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--=-BTHtX40BdWIfiWRqUXAh-- From r.floyd3@verizon.net Tue Jun 4 08:08:53 2002 From: r.floyd3@verizon.net (Robert Floyd) Date: 04 Jun 2002 03:08:53 -0400 Subject: [Users] Using Evolution as Konqueror mailto: ? Message-ID: <1023174534.1632.7.camel@linux> I'm running Evolution 1.0.5 under KDE 3.0 with SuSe 8.0 and can't seem to get Konqueror to use Evolution with mailto: links. I've set Evolution as my default mail program in the KDE Control Center and have set it up to handle urls in the Gnome Control Center. Is anyone using this combo successfully? If so, what am I missing? TIA, Robert Floyd Durham, NC From mailinglisten00@hentges.net Tue Jun 4 10:55:00 2002 From: mailinglisten00@hentges.net (Matthias Hentges) Date: 04 Jun 2002 11:55:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ximian over SuSe 8 install tips? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023184455.1166.9.camel@mhcln01> Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 05.33 schrieb Bill Burton: > > Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid, when installing Ximian Desktop over SuSE 8? Installed w/o problems on my SuSE 8.0. If you are using gdm as login manager, dont update it because the ximian gdm is kinda broken -- Matthias Hentges From batze@gmx.net Tue Jun 4 11:14:35 2002 From: batze@gmx.net (Sebastian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gro=DF?=) Date: 04 Jun 2002 12:14:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Palm M500 Message-ID: <1023185675.4393.7.camel@midkemia> Hey guys, I am experiencing problems with my Palm M500. Pilot-Link 0.10.99 works and does a hotsync to my home directory. I tried to get the palm installed in the control center. Since I installed Ximian Desktop last night from the Ximian Servers I have the option in the control center. Trying to choose USB and /dev/pilot does not work. Is there anyone out there with Suse 8.0, Ximian Desktop and a Palm M500 up and working with each other. I spend too much time on this already, but I haven't had a hotsync for weeks now cause I don't wanna boot Windows... Yours Batze From dobey@ximian.com Tue Jun 4 12:43:42 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 04 Jun 2002 07:43:42 -0400 Subject: [Users] Using Evolution as Konqueror mailto: ? In-Reply-To: <1023174534.1632.7.camel@linux> References: <1023174534.1632.7.camel@linux> Message-ID: <1023191022.19933.7.camel@beatbox> Specifying evolution "%s" as the mailto: handler should work. This is how I use it in GNOME, and everything works perfectly fine. -- dobey On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 03:08, Robert Floyd wrote: I'm running Evolution 1.0.5 under KDE 3.0 with SuSe 8.0 and can't seem to get Konqueror to use Evolution with mailto: links. I've set Evolution as my default mail program in the KDE Control Center and have set it up to handle urls in the Gnome Control Center. Is anyone using this combo successfully? If so, what am I missing? TIA, Robert Floyd Durham, NC _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dobey@ximian.com Tue Jun 4 12:45:24 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 04 Jun 2002 07:45:24 -0400 Subject: [Users] Ximian over SuSe 8 install tips? In-Reply-To: <1023184455.1166.9.camel@mhcln01> References: <1023184455.1166.9.camel@mhcln01> Message-ID: <1023191124.19937.10.camel@beatbox> How is it broken? If you find problems, please file a bug -- dobey On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 05:55, Matthias Hentges wrote: Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 05.33 schrieb Bill Burton: > > Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid, when installing Ximian Desktop over SuSE 8? Installed w/o problems on my SuSE 8.0. If you are using gdm as login manager, dont update it because the ximian gdm is kinda broken -- Matthias Hentges _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From cwsulliv@triad.rr.com Tue Jun 4 14:05:17 2002 From: cwsulliv@triad.rr.com (Charles Sullivan) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:05:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] Using Evolution as Konqueror mailto: ? In-Reply-To: <1023174534.1632.7.camel@linux> References: <1023174534.1632.7.camel@linux> Message-ID: <20020604090517.64fae219.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> On 04 Jun 2002 03:08:53 -0400 Robert Floyd wrote: > I'm running Evolution 1.0.5 under KDE 3.0 with SuSe 8.0 and can't seem > to get Konqueror to use Evolution with mailto: links. I've set Evolution > as my default mail program in the KDE Control Center and have set it up > to handle urls in the Gnome Control Center. > > Is anyone using this combo successfully? If so, what am I missing? I don't use Konqueror, but assume this is your problem: Evolution has to be called like this: evolution mailto:
e.g.: evolution mailto:r.floyd@verizon.net with no space between the "mailto:" and the address. If Konqueror doesn't have the capability for setting up the command line this way, you will have to use a helper script like my 'evomail'. ==================== #! /bin/bsh /usr/bin/evolution --no-splash "mailto:$1" ==================== (Older versions of the Opera browser required this.) From karstenrbecker@gmx.de Tue Jun 4 14:59:25 2002 From: karstenrbecker@gmx.de (Karsten R. Becker) Date: 04 Jun 2002 15:59:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] Evolution: Mailto: How automatically fill "to" and "subject" Message-ID: <1023199167.8018.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I hope my english is good enough for this question. I made evolution to my standard mail-handler with evolution mailto: "%t in my KDE-configuration. But, when I click on a HTML-Mailto-Link, the "new mail"-window opens without automatically taking the "to" and the "subject" from the Mailto-Link. Is it possible to get this? Please answer additional to my private E-Mail-Adress. I am not subscribed in your list. Thank you very much, Karsten from Berlin/Germany -- Diese E-Mail wurde ohne Zuhilfenahme von Microsoft-Produkten erstellt und versendet. From smchenry@columbus.rr.com Tue Jun 4 15:06:57 2002 From: smchenry@columbus.rr.com (Sean McHenry) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:06:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] On the bookmarks issue Message-ID: <3CFCC981.4030102@columbus.rr.com> --------------060604030100020203020204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most bookmark files are actually html documents and as such can be saved with an .html extension on your hard drive. You can then, in your browser of choice, point to that file and open it. Now bookmark that page as a bookmark itself. This should work very well if you dual boot and point the Linux browser to your Windoze browsers bookmark file. Now, any changes, additions or subtractions from the Win version will be correct in your Linux browser. Granted, your bookmarks will show up as a whole long catagorized web page but, it's a decent way to do this, I think. Sean McHenry -- Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 --------------060604030100020203020204-- From dobey@ximian.com Tue Jun 4 15:05:30 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 04 Jun 2002 10:05:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution: Mailto: How automatically fill "to" and "subject" In-Reply-To: <1023199167.8018.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023199167.8018.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023199530.15927.2.camel@beatbox> Assuming that Konqueror sends the mailto: uri to evolution correctly, it will just work. Evolution parses mailto:user@host?Subject= correctly. The problem (as was just stated in another post to this list), is that konqueror apparently strips the mailto: part of the uri. To work around this, you need to make evolution mailto:%t your handler, or write a script to handle it correctly. -- dobey On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 09:59, Karsten R. Becker wrote: Hi, I hope my english is good enough for this question. I made evolution to my standard mail-handler with evolution mailto: "%t in my KDE-configuration. But, when I click on a HTML-Mailto-Link, the "new mail"-window opens without automatically taking the "to" and the "subject" from the Mailto-Link. Is it possible to get this? Please answer additional to my private E-Mail-Adress. I am not subscribed in your list. Thank you very much, Karsten from Berlin/Germany -- Diese E-Mail wurde ohne Zuhilfenahme von Microsoft-Produkten erstellt und versendet. _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dobey@ximian.com Tue Jun 4 15:10:10 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 04 Jun 2002 10:10:10 -0400 Subject: [Users] On the bookmarks issue In-Reply-To: <3CFCC981.4030102@columbus.rr.com> References: <3CFCC981.4030102@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <1023199810.15959.7.camel@beatbox> Right. However, IE stores bookmarks in individual files. These are formatted similar to the GNOME .desktop files, and there are scripts to convert them to a bookmarks.html, bookmarks.xml, and even gnome and kde desktop links. -- dobey On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 10:06, Sean McHenry wrote: Most bookmark files are actually html documents and as such can be saved with an .html extension on your hard drive. You can then, in your browser of choice, point to that file and open it. Now bookmark that page as a bookmark itself. This should work very well if you dual boot and point the Linux browser to your Windoze browsers bookmark file. Now, any changes, additions or subtractions from the Win version will be correct in your Linux browser. Granted, your bookmarks will show up as a whole long catagorized web page but, it's a decent way to do this, I think. Sean McHenry -- Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 From smchenry@columbus.rr.com Tue Jun 4 15:43:00 2002 From: smchenry@columbus.rr.com (Sean McHenry) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:43:00 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. Message-ID: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> --------------070704060004090604010907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having to be dependant on exterior Ximian formatted libraries or other applications? I am not in a position to install any packages that will create a dependancy on Ximian and want to keep it that way, but I do want to try Evo. Last time I grabbed the RH Evo package, it wanted me to install several Ximian apps to go along with it, like a bonobo-ximian package and so on. Any way around this? Sean McHenry removethis-smchenry@columbus.rr.com I am subscribed to the list in digest format so if you need anything right away, please e-mail me direct. -- Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 --------------070704060004090604010907-- From davidgn@servidor.unam.mx Tue Jun 4 15:56:08 2002 From: davidgn@servidor.unam.mx (David Eduardo Gomez Noguera) Date: 04 Jun 2002 09:56:08 -0500 Subject: [Users] encoding doubt Message-ID: <1023202570.2990.13.camel@hikaru> hello. I have a doubt on encoding. messages are being sent as utf-8, why would that be? my LC_CTYPE=ja_JP all others are en_US. and this signature should be displayed allright =) messages in the Sent folder say ISO-2022 though. please help? -- ICQ: 15605359 Bicho =^..^= First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Mahatma Gandhi. -------------------------------µ¤¸¡ÂΤΰìÃ×------------------------------------ ½뤵´¨¤µ¤âÈà´ߤޤǡ£ Îø¤ˤ·¤·¤礦¤ʤ·¡£Îø¤Ϥ·¤¢¤ó¤Î¾¡£ ¥¢¥ó ¥¢¥ó ¥¢¥ó ¤ȤäƤâÂ繥¤­ From dobey@ximian.com Tue Jun 4 16:30:34 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 04 Jun 2002 11:30:34 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <1023204634.6117.5.camel@beatbox> Use the Evolution only install option in the installer. The reason it pulls in certain libraries is because newer evolution versions work faster and better with newer versions of certain libraries. This is done in the packages by making it require those versions. If you don't want that either, it is still possible to build it yourself, but be warned that you will still need the newer versions of most of the libraries. And most distributions don't contain those versions, as they were released after the latest versions of the distributions, especially so in the case of older versions of a distribution, such as Red Hat 7.2. -- dobey On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 10:43, Sean McHenry wrote: Hello all, Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having to be dependant on exterior Ximian formatted libraries or other applications? I am not in a position to install any packages that will create a dependancy on Ximian and want to keep it that way, but I do want to try Evo. Last time I grabbed the RH Evo package, it wanted me to install several Ximian apps to go along with it, like a bonobo-ximian package and so on. Any way around this? Sean McHenry removethis-smchenry@columbus.rr.com I am subscribed to the list in digest format so if you need anything right away, please e-mail me direct. -- Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 From severegwar@email.it Tue Jun 4 17:47:53 2002 From: severegwar@email.it (Lessio Igor) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:47:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] big problems Message-ID: <3CFCEF39.40304@email.it> I'v install GNOME2 by red carpet but now my sistem fail ever i try to start gnome... I can eccess by KDE my box and is ok but i wanna see Ximian too what i can do? Please answer me soon -- Prendi GRATIS l'email universale che... risparmia: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Una vetrina tutta tua per i tuoi prodotti? Diventa Supervenditore bid.it! Clicca qui: http://adv2.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=315&d=4-6 From Jesse Wagner" Antialiasing dosen't work in the OpenOffice package I got from Red Carpet. The problem resembles one that has been floating around the users@openoffice.org mailing list except the workaround dosen't work: > Basically the steps are suggested by Christof Pintaske: > - rm pspfontcache > - touch pspfontcache > - chmod 444 pspfontcache > pspfontcache can be found in /user/psprint directory and > also in the /share/psprint directory. There is no /user/psprint file and trying the steps on the other one dosen't do anything. Oddly enough, AA does work as root :-/ -- http://fastmail.fm - You've just been FastMailed! From craig@ip80.com Tue Jun 4 20:08:02 2002 From: craig@ip80.com (Craig Williams) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:08:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: <1023215768.3964.77.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <002b01c20bfb$262e4aa0$f100a8c0@water> Nope, had to rebuild my machine. I fixed the gdm.conf file but X still wouldn't start on boot and I could'nt find a way to recover gnome. I've logged this bug. Craig > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Baer [mailto:judah@opusnet.com] > Sent: 04 June 2002 19:36 > To: craig@ip80.com > Subject: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > Have you had any luck solving this issue? > > A- > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 16:22, Aaron Baer wrote: > > Well for one thing it didn't break "your linux" .. What happened is > > that X Windows, which runs on top of of the linux kernel as an > > application, had it's configuration changed during the installation > > and now is not functioning properly for your video card and > resolution > > capabilities. > > > > Log in as root at the console and try using sax2 from the > command line > > to reconfigure X.. > > > > I'm not an avid SuSe user so there might be someone else > lurking that > > can point you in a more clear direction. The main point is > your linux > > is not broken... > > > > Have patience, Have fun, in time everything will come naturally, > > A- > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 15:36, Craig Williams wrote: > > > I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". > > > > > > After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. > > > > > > Suse8.0 ? > > > > > > any ideas ? > > > > > > C > > -- > ---- > Aaron Baer > judah@opusnet.com > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > > From craig@ip80.com Tue Jun 4 20:13:56 2002 From: craig@ip80.com (Craig Williams) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:13:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] big problems In-Reply-To: <3CFCEF39.40304@email.it> Message-ID: <002d01c20bfb$f999ac90$f100a8c0@water> Let me guess, you're running SuSE 8 ? C > -----Original Message----- > From: users-admin@ximian.com [mailto:users-admin@ximian.com] > On Behalf Of Lessio Igor > Sent: 04 June 2002 17:48 > To: users@ximian.com > Subject: [Users] big problems > > > I'v install GNOME2 by red carpet but now my sistem fail ever i try to > start gnome... > > I can eccess by KDE my box and is ok but i wanna see Ximian > too what i > can do? > > Please answer me soon > > > > > > -- > Prendi GRATIS l'email universale che... risparmia: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Una vetrina tutta tua per i tuoi prodotti? Diventa Supervenditore bid.it! Clicca qui: http://adv2.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=315&d=4-6 _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From linux.eqed@directvinternet.com Tue Jun 4 20:26:09 2002 From: linux.eqed@directvinternet.com (linux.eqed) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:26:09 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( Message-ID: ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: linux.eqed To: Aaron Baer Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( Date: 6/4/2002 3:23:59 PM Thanks for the conversation.. I understand your intent and applaud you and the user communtity for being so eager to assist those in their times of need.. "This is why linux won't win" is because the software developers haven't embraced the under-educated users, I don't mean those people with low iq's but those people that haven't had the experience or training to time to get up to speed on the vast number of things to know in order to get apps running.. A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how his car works he want to go to work and the store and the baseball game. The mechanic is there to make sure the spark plugs are changed the oil is changed and belts are tight.. The car has little lights on it to tell him when he needs to go in for service. He wouldn't mind having the hood welded shut if the mechanic could get to it when he takes the car in.. In short the car is user-friendly because he only has to know how to use it and doesn't need to know everything about it.. Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq working.. Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just mpeg's) Why is there no firewall app comparable to ZoneAlarm, why is there no vpn client like MS vpn client, why is there no hard drive management tool comparable to Partition Magic, why is there no remote management tool like Remote Administrator (VNC doesn't cut it).. my list can go on and on.. But my point is these windows-based tools and superior to the linux counterparts because they automate alot of the configuring and they provide some innovative solutions. Thanks for your ear.. 6/4/2002 2:33:26 PM, Aaron Baer wrote: >I'm not, in any way, trying to be unfriendly in making my points... And >I think I provided a next step for him in my initial email.. under SuSe >from the console you would use the command sax2 to configure your X >requirements.. and along with that information I was able to clearly >define how he miss represented his problem. > >I was not arguing with him, I was not saying he was a stupid Linux >user.. I was not saying Read the F'in Man page.. I was communicating >knowledge that most users who are used to a different world of computing >might not yet understand. > >"This is why linux won't win." holds no validity in this situation. >Because, it's just not true. Linux won't win if Linux users don't >continue to actively instill the knowledge that they have of the system >onto those who have not yet learned how it works. > >Red Carpet is what Ximian has developed to take care of dependencies.. >And it does a great job.. However there are so many different >combinations of hardware and software out there that there is bound to >be some configuration that slips through and has a problem.. That's why >the problems that most people post to this list are from only a few >percentage of the users that use the software and the majority of users >don't have many problems at all or are skilled enough at this point to >work through them. > >A- > -------- End of forwarded message -------- From craig@ip80.com Tue Jun 4 20:41:41 2002 From: craig@ip80.com (Craig Williams) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:41:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002e01c20bff$da06f410$f100a8c0@water> O yay - its not about whether linux will win. It will always be. ... Get used to it but besides that - there are plenty of times an install on windows has more than destroyed it .. But even besides that ... What the hell are you ranting on about .... *duck* And why am I bothering to reply I really know I shouldn't click send ... But here goes ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: users-admin@ximian.com [mailto:users-admin@ximian.com] > On Behalf Of linux.eqed > Sent: 04 June 2002 20:26 > To: users@ximian.com > Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > > > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > From: linux.eqed > To: Aaron Baer > Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > Date: 6/4/2002 3:23:59 PM > > Thanks for the conversation.. I understand your intent and > applaud you and the user > communtity for being so eager to assist those in their times > of need.. "This is why linux > won't win" is because the software developers haven't > embraced the under-educated users, > I don't mean those people with low iq's but those people that > haven't had the experience or > training to time to get up to speed on the vast number of > things to know in order to get > apps running.. A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how > his car works he want to go to > work and the store and the baseball game. The mechanic is > there to make sure the spark > plugs are changed the oil is changed and belts are tight.. > The car has little lights on it to > tell him when he needs to go in for service. He wouldn't > mind having the hood welded shut > if the mechanic could get to it when he takes the car in.. In > short the car is user-friendly > because he only has to know how to use it and doesn't need to > know everything about it.. > Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq > working.. Why is there no apps for > burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just mpeg's) > Why is there no firewall app > comparable to ZoneAlarm, why is there no vpn client like MS > vpn client, why is there no hard > drive management tool comparable to Partition Magic, why is > there no remote management > tool like Remote Administrator (VNC doesn't cut it).. my list > can go on and on.. But my > point is these windows-based tools and superior to the linux > counterparts because they > automate alot of the configuring and they provide some > innovative solutions. > > Thanks for your ear.. > > 6/4/2002 2:33:26 PM, Aaron Baer wrote: > > >I'm not, in any way, trying to be unfriendly in making my > points... And > >I think I provided a next step for him in my initial email.. > under SuSe > >from the console you would use the command sax2 to configure your X > >requirements.. and along with that information I was able to clearly > >define how he miss represented his problem. > > > >I was not arguing with him, I was not saying he was a stupid Linux > >user.. I was not saying Read the F'in Man page.. I was communicating > >knowledge that most users who are used to a different world of > >computing might not yet understand. > > > >"This is why linux won't win." holds no validity in this situation. > >Because, it's just not true. Linux won't win if Linux users don't > >continue to actively instill the knowledge that they have of > the system > >onto those who have not yet learned how it works. > > > >Red Carpet is what Ximian has developed to take care of > dependencies.. > >And it does a great job.. However there are so many different > >combinations of hardware and software out there that there > is bound to > >be some configuration that slips through and has a problem.. > That's why > >the problems that most people post to this list are from only a few > >percentage of the users that use the software and the > majority of users > >don't have many problems at all or are skilled enough at > this point to > >work through them. > > > >A- > > > > > -------- End of forwarded message -------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From ejahn@worksystems.org Tue Jun 4 20:48:19 2002 From: ejahn@worksystems.org (Eric Jahn) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:48:19 -0700 Subject: [Users] Open Office 1.0 inferior to Open Office 641d Developer Version Message-ID: <319FB8934F09BF48A3F322837088266763FFF5@wsimail.worksystems.org> Using Redhat Linux 7.3, but I imagine this applies to other flavors of Linux, the OO 1.0 install was buggy and crashed. Using OO 641D or OO 641C (latest stable developer build), the install worked correctly and the operation of the program is flawless. I wish Ximian would put a better build of open office on their Redcarpet service. From r.floyd3@verizon.net Tue Jun 4 20:56:17 2002 From: r.floyd3@verizon.net (Robert Floyd) Date: 04 Jun 2002 15:56:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet for SuSe 8.0? Message-ID: <1023220583.1391.8.camel@linux> I see that the Ximian desktop is now available for SuSe 8.0. However, I'd like to install just Red Carpet, and that still does not seem to support SuSe 8.0. Does anyone have a feel for when that will happen and what's delaying it? Is there something strange with 8.0? I also notice the SuSe FTP site doesn't have the 8.0 distro for download yet. Just curious, Robert Floyd Durham, NC From aaron@ximian.com Tue Jun 4 20:48:56 2002 From: aaron@ximian.com (Aaron Weber) Date: 04 Jun 2002 15:48:56 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> --=-4Stfk890S2e2FycBZf96 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:26, linux.eqed wrote: ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: linux.eqed To: Aaron Baer Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( Date: 6/4/2002 3:23:59 PM A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how his car works he want to go to work and the store and the baseball game. That's a common comparison. One of the things that we're trying to do at Ximian is create something that "just works"-- but remember, you had to learn a lot about how to drive a car before you were allowed to handle it alone. You may have heard the story of the kid given a new car for his 16th birthday, who drove it until the engine just froze. "What do you mean, I had to change the oil?" he said. Things are not always as simple as we imagine them to be. But yes, Linux is, in many ways, not yet as easy as Windows. In other ways, it's easier, especially if you have a good "mechanic." Zumiez, for example, the clothing retailer, uses a version of Ximian desktop with just three buttons on the desktop: Mail, Spreadsheet, and their Point-of-sale application. The store managers don't know what's inside, and they don't care what's inside. They never touch it. Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq working.. I'm not sure why you had to recompile the kernel for that task. This is a failing if you did. Windows probably swaps out one or another kernel module and makes you reboot... you should similarly be able to get a newer kernel and turn ip masqs on without any compilation. Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just mpeg's) Playing, recording, and decryption of DVDs with open source software is illegal under international copyright law and the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. If you'd like to change these laws, contact your lawmakers and/or make a donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation at http://eff.org. It's true that the general system administration tools are not as pleasant as they could be. The XST project does some work to promote the ease of configuration for Linux and UNIX systems' font handling, user configuration, sharing, disk and memory management, and so forth, and they have made significant amounts of progress. If you're interested in getting involved, visit #xst or #gnome on irc.gnome.org, or subscribe to the gnome-hackers mailing list. Why don't these programs exist? Well, they haven't been written. Yet. What are you going to do about it? I know what I'm doing about it-- I'm contributing to the ease of use of free software by writing additional manuals, participating in mailing lists and online conversations, supporting people whenever they run into problems I've seen before, filing bug reports for software... I can't program, but that hasn't stopped me and you shouldn't let it stop you either. Yours, Aaron Weber Ximian, Inc. --=-4Stfk890S2e2FycBZf96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:26, linux.eqed wrote: 
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From: linux.eqed <linux.eqed@directvinternet.com>
To: Aaron Baer <judah@opusnet.com>
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :(
Date: 6/4/2002 3:23:59 PM
 A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how his car works he want to go to 
work and the store and the baseball game.
That's a common comparison.  One of the things that we're trying to do at Ximian is create something that "just works"-- but remember, you had to learn a lot about how to drive a car before you were allowed to handle it alone.  You may have heard the story of the kid given a new car for his 16th birthday, who drove it until the engine just froze.  "What do you mean, I had to change the oil?"  he said.  Things are not always as simple as we imagine them to be.

But yes, Linux is, in many ways, not yet as easy as Windows.  In other ways, it's easier, especially if you have a good "mechanic."  Zumiez, for example, the clothing retailer, uses a version of Ximian desktop with just three buttons on the desktop:  Mail, Spreadsheet, and their Point-of-sale application.  The store managers don't know what's inside, and they don't care what's inside. They never touch it. 
Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq working..
  I'm not sure why you had to recompile the kernel for that task.  This is a failing if you did.  Windows probably swaps out one or another kernel module and makes you reboot... you should similarly be able to get a newer kernel and turn ip masqs on without any compilation. 
Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just mpeg's)
Playing, recording, and decryption of DVDs with open source software is illegal under international copyright law and the Digital Millenium Copyright Act.  If you'd like to change these laws,  contact your lawmakers and/or make a donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation at http://eff.org.

It's true that the general system administration tools are not as pleasant as they could be.  The XST project does some work to promote the ease of configuration for Linux and UNIX systems' font handling, user configuration, sharing, disk and memory management, and so forth, and they have made significant amounts of progress.  If you're interested in getting involved, visit #xst or #gnome on irc.gnome.org, or subscribe to the gnome-hackers mailing list.

Why don't these programs exist?  Well, they haven't been written.  Yet. What are you going to do about it?

I know what I'm doing about it-- I'm contributing to the ease of use of free software by writing additional manuals, participating in mailing lists and online conversations, supporting people whenever they run into problems I've seen before, filing bug reports for software... I can't program, but that hasn't stopped me and you shouldn't let it stop you either.

Yours,
Aaron Weber
Ximian, Inc.
--=-4Stfk890S2e2FycBZf96-- From ian@maul.deepsky.com Tue Jun 4 21:01:57 2002 From: ian@maul.deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Your post is completely off-topic. Nevertheless, because it is so broad-reaching and attacks so many interests that so many people have invested so much time and effort into, I feel compeled to respond (and my apologies in advance to the list for engaging a troll). Your car analogy can easily be turned around. People expect their cars to take them to work, to do their shopping, to their baseball games... if cars were microsoft products though, that expectation would be sharply different to that which is provided to them by auto manufacturers. Rather than arriving at work, without incident 99 times out 100, they would find themselves relieved to have arrived at all on their first go. Rather than getting home with their shopping, they would puzzle over how and why their car ejected the milk, biscuits and cat litter enroute and how it was was the wine had been turned into water. And they would be rather incensed to discover that in order to watch the baseball game for which they had already bought a ticket, they had to acquire a viewing ticket on top of their seating ticket (and go into a blind fury to learn that they needed a going-to-the-loo ticket). But that's all abstract. Let's get concrete. You mention a shed-load of applications that exist for windows but not for linux; yet, you blame the *linux* community for this? Why don't you write to the companies that produce ZoneAlarm and Partion Magic and complain to them for not producing linux versions of their software? While you're sending off those letters, re-draft one or two and send them to your local elected representatives and ask why it is that the US government (I'm guessing you're a Yank by the baseball reference) has pushed through laws on patents and digital copyrights that makes it very, very, very difficult for linux programmers to *legally* produce work-alikes for products whose manufacturers aren't interested in producing a linux version of their products. Indeed, make certain to mention a infamous Senator Hollings who, if his hair-brained law is pushed through will make Linux *illegal*. If that's all too much, then write a cheque for $65 to the electronic frontier foundation (http://www.eff.org/perl/join) who will help to support the fight for you. If you're going to through around wild accusations such "VNC doesn't cut it" with regard to remote desktop management, you could provide some concrete reasons why. Although ATT is no longer developing or supporting VNC, other developers will pick it up and your comments and criticisms can be a great help. That said, I use VNC every day to manage systems with a gui front-end in England, Canada and Italy. I've never found it had any shortcomings though personally I prefer opening an ssh tunel to a shell. Regards, Ian --- Dr Ian Firla Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, linux.eqed wrote: > Thanks for the conversation.. I understand your intent and applaud you and the user > communtity for being so eager to assist those in their times of need.. "This is why linux > won't win" is because the software developers haven't embraced the under-educated users, > I don't mean those people with low iq's but those people that haven't had the experience or > training to time to get up to speed on the vast number of things to know in order to get > apps running.. A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how his car works he want to go to > work and the store and the baseball game. The mechanic is there to make sure the spark > plugs are changed the oil is changed and belts are tight.. The car has little lights on it to > tell him when he needs to go in for service. He wouldn't mind having the hood welded shut > if the mechanic could get to it when he takes the car in.. In short the car is user-friendly > because he only has to know how to use it and doesn't need to know everything about it.. > Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq working.. Why is there no apps for > burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just mpeg's) Why is there no firewall app > comparable to ZoneAlarm, why is there no vpn client like MS vpn client, why is there no hard > drive management tool comparable to Partition Magic, why is there no remote management > tool like Remote Administrator (VNC doesn't cut it).. my list can go on and on.. But my > point is these windows-based tools and superior to the linux counterparts because they > automate alot of the configuring and they provide some innovative solutions. > > Thanks for your ear.. > > 6/4/2002 2:33:26 PM, Aaron Baer wrote: > > >I'm not, in any way, trying to be unfriendly in making my points... And > >I think I provided a next step for him in my initial email.. under SuSe > >from the console you would use the command sax2 to configure your X > >requirements.. and along with that information I was able to clearly > >define how he miss represented his problem. > > > >I was not arguing with him, I was not saying he was a stupid Linux > >user.. I was not saying Read the F'in Man page.. I was communicating > >knowledge that most users who are used to a different world of computing > >might not yet understand. > > > >"This is why linux won't win." holds no validity in this situation. > >Because, it's just not true. Linux won't win if Linux users don't > >continue to actively instill the knowledge that they have of the system > >onto those who have not yet learned how it works. > > > >Red Carpet is what Ximian has developed to take care of dependencies.. > >And it does a great job.. However there are so many different > >combinations of hardware and software out there that there is bound to > >be some configuration that slips through and has a problem.. That's why > >the problems that most people post to this list are from only a few > >percentage of the users that use the software and the majority of users > >don't have many problems at all or are skilled enough at this point to > >work through them. > > > >A- > > > > > -------- End of forwarded message -------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From cwsulliv@triad.rr.com Tue Jun 4 21:04:52 2002 From: cwsulliv@triad.rr.com (Charles Sullivan) Date: 04 Jun 2002 16:04:52 -0400 Subject: [Users] Using Evolution as Konqueror mailto: ? In-Reply-To: <1023191022.19933.7.camel@beatbox> References: <1023174534.1632.7.camel@linux> <1023191022.19933.7.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <1023221093.4035.13.camel@OEMComputer> I checked out KDE and here's what you need to do to call Evolution from Konqueror: In the KDE Control Panel under Network>Email, fill in the window "Preferred Email Client with: evolution --no-splash mailto:"%t" Make sure there's no space between the mailto: and the "%t". It helps if Evolution is already running and minimized, otherwise the main Evo window pops up in addition to the message compose window. (It'd be handy to have a command line switch so that Evo could be instructed to open already minimized.) On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 07:43, Rodney Dawes wrote: > Specifying evolution "%s" as the mailto: handler should work. This is > how I use it in GNOME, and everything works perfectly fine. > > -- dobey > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 03:08, Robert Floyd wrote: > I'm running Evolution 1.0.5 under KDE 3.0 with SuSe 8.0 and can't seem > to get Konqueror to use Evolution with mailto: links. I've set Evolution > as my default mail program in the KDE Control Center and have set it up > to handle urls in the Gnome Control Center. > > Is anyone using this combo successfully? If so, what am I missing? > > TIA, > Robert Floyd > Durham, NC > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From cwsulliv@triad.rr.com Tue Jun 4 21:10:21 2002 From: cwsulliv@triad.rr.com (Charles Sullivan) Date: 04 Jun 2002 16:10:21 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution: Mailto: How automatically fill "to" and "subject" In-Reply-To: <1023199530.15927.2.camel@beatbox> References: <1023199167.8018.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1023199530.15927.2.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <1023221421.4035.18.camel@OEMComputer> No - her problem is the space she left between the mailto: and the "%t". On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 10:05, Rodney Dawes wrote: > Assuming that Konqueror sends the mailto: uri to evolution correctly, it > will just work. Evolution parses mailto:user@host?Subject= correctly. > The problem (as was just stated in another post to this list), is that > konqueror apparently strips the mailto: part of the uri. To work around > this, you need to make evolution mailto:%t your handler, or write a > script to handle it correctly. > > -- dobey > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 09:59, Karsten R. Becker wrote: > Hi, > > I hope my english is good enough for this question. I made evolution to > my standard mail-handler with > evolution mailto: "%t > in my KDE-configuration. > But, when I click on a HTML-Mailto-Link, the "new mail"-window opens > without automatically taking the "to" and the "subject" from the > Mailto-Link. > Is it possible to get this? > > Please answer additional to my private E-Mail-Adress. I am not > subscribed in your list. > > Thank you very much, > Karsten from Berlin/Germany > -- > > Diese E-Mail wurde ohne Zuhilfenahme von Microsoft-Produkten erstellt > und versendet. > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From webmaster@psysolutions.com Tue Jun 4 21:09:39 2002 From: webmaster@psysolutions.com (Russ Haskett) Date: 04 Jun 2002 15:09:39 -0500 Subject: [Users] Open Office 1.0 inferior to Open Office 641d Developer Version In-Reply-To: <319FB8934F09BF48A3F322837088266763FFF5@wsimail.worksystems.org> References: <319FB8934F09BF48A3F322837088266763FFF5@wsimail.worksystems.org> Message-ID: <1023221379.28645.62.camel@dirt> i have been using OOo 1.0 on my redhat 7.2 (2.4.18 kernel) since a few days after it came out. i have also loaded it on win98 and NT boxes. all has gone well and i have found the program to be bug free so far on all boxes (although it's slow on the win98 box). your problem could be with changes in the RedHat 7.3 just my experience, hope this helps On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 14:48, Eric Jahn wrote: > Using Redhat Linux 7.3, but I imagine this applies to other flavors of > Linux, the OO 1.0 install was buggy and crashed. Using OO 641D or OO > 641C (latest stable developer build), the install worked correctly and > the operation of the program is flawless. I wish Ximian would put a > better build of open office on their Redcarpet service. > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From rscrawford@mossroot.com Tue Jun 4 21:16:42 2002 From: rscrawford@mossroot.com (Richard Crawford) Date: 04 Jun 2002 13:16:42 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> References: <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> Message-ID: <1023221802.23916.158.camel@mossroot> Bravo! Aaron, you just said much more eloquently what I was just now trying to say on another list. I even used the car analogy. On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 12:48, Aaron Weber wrote: > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:26, linux.eqed wrote: > > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > From: linux.eqed > To: Aaron Baer > Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > Date: 6/4/2002 3:23:59 PM > > > > A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how his car works he want to go to > work and the store and the baseball game. > > That's a common comparison. One of the things that we're trying to do > at Ximian is create something that "just works"-- but remember, you had > to learn a lot about how to drive a car before you were allowed to > handle it alone. You may have heard the story of the kid given a new > car for his 16th birthday, who drove it until the engine just froze. > "What do you mean, I had to change the oil?" he said. Things are not > always as simple as we imagine them to be. > > But yes, Linux is, in many ways, not yet as easy as Windows. In other > ways, it's easier, especially if you have a good "mechanic." Zumiez, > for example, the clothing retailer, uses a version of Ximian desktop > with just three buttons on the desktop: Mail, Spreadsheet, and their > Point-of-sale application. The store managers don't know what's inside, > and they don't care what's inside. They never touch it. > > > Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq working.. > > I'm not sure why you had to recompile the kernel for that task. This > is a failing if you did. Windows probably swaps out one or another > kernel module and makes you reboot... you should similarly be able to > get a newer kernel and turn ip masqs on without any compilation. > > Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just mpeg's) > > Playing, recording, and decryption of DVDs with open source software is > illegal under international copyright law and the Digital Millenium > Copyright Act. If you'd like to change these laws, contact your > lawmakers and/or make a donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation > at http://eff.org. > > It's true that the general system administration tools are not as > pleasant as they could be. The XST project does some work to promote > the ease of configuration for Linux and UNIX systems' font handling, > user configuration, sharing, disk and memory management, and so forth, > and they have made significant amounts of progress. If you're > interested in getting involved, visit #xst or #gnome on irc.gnome.org, > or subscribe to the gnome-hackers mailing list. > > Why don't these programs exist? Well, they haven't been written. Yet. > What are you going to do about it? > > I know what I'm doing about it-- I'm contributing to the ease of use of > free software by writing additional manuals, participating in mailing > lists and online conversations, supporting people whenever they run into > problems I've seen before, filing bug reports for software... I can't > program, but that hasn't stopped me and you shouldn't let it stop you > either. > > Yours, > Aaron Weber > Ximian, Inc. > > > > > > > -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford mailto:rscrawford@mossroot.com http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Yahoo!: rscrawford MSN: underpope@hotmail.com "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery vi vi vi - the editor of the beast From judah@opusnet.com Tue Jun 4 21:24:38 2002 From: judah@opusnet.com (Aaron Baer) Date: 04 Jun 2002 13:24:38 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: <002b01c20bfb$262e4aa0$f100a8c0@water> References: <002b01c20bfb$262e4aa0$f100a8c0@water> Message-ID: <1023222278.5837.74.camel@laptop> Wow.. That's terribly drastic.. Next time feel free to email back to the list or the person who responds to your post with more details and or issues after your attempts to fix fail.. I can guarantee that your problem could have been fixed without reloading the whole machine.. However, every time you install a Linux system you usually learn something new so you may not have lost out this time. The problem at that point was most likely with X itself and not with gdm specifically .. The file that controls the settings for XFree86 ver. 4 is called XF86Conf-4 and is typically located in /etc/X11 . Things like Keyboard mapping, Mouse Device configuration, Hardware Drivers, resolution, screen depth are defined for X Windows in this file. After the machine booted and X would not start you were most likely presented with a console login prompt correct? Logging in there as root and running sax2 would have helped you configure these settings.. Have you attempted to install Ximian again? Were you successful this time? A- On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 12:08, Craig Williams wrote: > Nope, had to rebuild my machine. > > I fixed the gdm.conf file but X still wouldn't start on boot and I > could'nt find a way to recover gnome. > > I've logged this bug. > > Craig > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aaron Baer [mailto:judah@opusnet.com] > > Sent: 04 June 2002 19:36 > > To: craig@ip80.com > > Subject: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > > > > Have you had any luck solving this issue? > > > > A- > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 16:22, Aaron Baer wrote: > > > Well for one thing it didn't break "your linux" .. What happened is > > > that X Windows, which runs on top of of the linux kernel as an > > > application, had it's configuration changed during the installation > > > and now is not functioning properly for your video card and > > resolution > > > capabilities. > > > > > > Log in as root at the console and try using sax2 from the > > command line > > > to reconfigure X.. > > > > > > I'm not an avid SuSe user so there might be someone else > > lurking that > > > can point you in a more clear direction. The main point is > > your linux > > > is not broken... > > > > > > Have patience, Have fun, in time everything will come naturally, > > > A- > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 15:36, Craig Williams wrote: > > > > I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". > > > > > > > > After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. > > > > > > > > Suse8.0 ? > > > > > > > > any ideas ? > > > > > > > > C > > > > -- > > ---- > > Aaron Baer > > judah@opusnet.com > > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ From craig@ip80.com Tue Jun 4 21:30:32 2002 From: craig@ip80.com (Craig Williams) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:30:32 +0100 Subject: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: <1023222278.5837.74.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <003101c20c06$acfe28b0$f100a8c0@water> Hi Aaron, As you rightly say, I enjoy installing linux at present because it keeps the process fresh in my brain :) I'm too used to slackware, my old os (no good for dev.) I could run X but only with the KDE desktop. I wanted to try again but someone else mentioned that gdm didn't work with ximian and suse8 but I can't seem to NOT install it. I was thinking of backing up the various conf files and then installing and if it broke again, just replace the conf files and see what happens ? thanks Craig > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Baer [mailto:judah@opusnet.com] > Sent: 04 June 2002 21:25 > To: craig@ip80.com > Cc: ximian-users > Subject: RE: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > Wow.. That's terribly drastic.. > > Next time feel free to email back to the list or the person > who responds to your post with more details and or issues > after your attempts to fix fail.. I can guarantee that your > problem could have been fixed without reloading the whole > machine.. However, every time you install a Linux system you > usually learn something new so you may not have lost out this time. > > The problem at that point was most likely with X itself and > not with gdm specifically .. The file that controls the > settings for XFree86 ver. 4 is called XF86Conf-4 and is > typically located in /etc/X11 . Things like Keyboard mapping, > Mouse Device configuration, Hardware Drivers, resolution, > screen depth are defined for X Windows in this file. > After the machine booted and X would not start you were most > likely presented with a console login prompt correct? Logging > in there as root and running sax2 would have helped you > configure these settings.. > > Have you attempted to install Ximian again? Were you > successful this time? > > A- > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 12:08, Craig Williams wrote: > > Nope, had to rebuild my machine. > > > > I fixed the gdm.conf file but X still wouldn't start on boot and I > > could'nt find a way to recover gnome. > > > > I've logged this bug. > > > > Craig > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Aaron Baer [mailto:judah@opusnet.com] > > > Sent: 04 June 2002 19:36 > > > To: craig@ip80.com > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > > > > > > > Have you had any luck solving this issue? > > > > > > A- > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 16:22, Aaron Baer wrote: > > > > Well for one thing it didn't break "your linux" .. What > happened > > > > is > > > > that X Windows, which runs on top of of the linux kernel as an > > > > application, had it's configuration changed during the > installation > > > > and now is not functioning properly for your video card and > > > resolution > > > > capabilities. > > > > > > > > Log in as root at the console and try using sax2 from the > > > command line > > > > to reconfigure X.. > > > > > > > > I'm not an avid SuSe user so there might be someone else > > > lurking that > > > > can point you in a more clear direction. The main point is > > > your linux > > > > is not broken... > > > > > > > > Have patience, Have fun, in time everything will come naturally, > > > > A- > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 15:36, Craig Williams wrote: > > > > > I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". > > > > > > > > > > After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. > > > > > > > > > > Suse8.0 ? > > > > > > > > > > any ideas ? > > > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > -- > > > ---- > > > Aaron Baer > > > judah@opusnet.com > > > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > -- > ---- > Aaron Baer > judah@opusnet.com > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > > From georgep@gmx.net Tue Jun 4 21:48:00 2002 From: georgep@gmx.net (Raider) Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:48:00 +0300 Subject: [Users] wish In-Reply-To: <1023060522.14877.3.camel@hikaru> References: <1023060522.14877.3.camel@hikaru> Message-ID: <1023223337.1974.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-5CfZZq0/cILqbaD6p+IM Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Evolution filtering system is at least primitive. Hmm... who knows? Maybe because most email users aren't even aware of the existance of filters. Anyway, I'll give you the advice the Evolution developers gave me a few days ago: use procmail which is a real filtering system. With procmail you get formail - a tool specialised in breaking digests into messages. On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 02:28, David Eduardo Gomez Noguera wrote: > Hello. > This might already be supported but i dont know, so i think this would > be cool. >=20 > Some way to browse/reply/store mailing list that come in digest, as to > be able to reply to only one message. --=-5CfZZq0/cILqbaD6p+IM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8/SYoJRE4XzTZU8gRAiFNAKCNbO0KQpFErMCPRbl3EFXcqcq+agCfeLy5 0dH9oPh9mjGtmS2JSreViwk= =OCs7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5CfZZq0/cILqbaD6p+IM-- From georgep@gmx.net Tue Jun 4 21:48:32 2002 From: georgep@gmx.net (Raider) Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:48:32 +0300 Subject: [Users] Ximian W32 version In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19971011002123.007a0380@romeninghsw.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19971011002123.007a0380@romeninghsw.com> Message-ID: <1023223485.1974.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-bm0SOvEjsFtH0HBHBnJk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 1997-10-11 at 10:21, Paulo Silva wrote: > do you have plans on compiling and distribute Windoz32 versions of Ximian > Evolution? - i'm asking this because a lot of people is not crazy on usin= g > Outlook, and the lacks Eudora and others still have What do you mean with "the lacks Eudora..."? Because it is older, or whatever other reason might be, Eudora can't be compared at the current time with Evolution. Of course, Evolution has its advantages - like being open source. But Evolution has a long way ahead before getting to Eudora (I'm talking about v5.1). --=-bm0SOvEjsFtH0HBHBnJk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8/Sa9JRE4XzTZU8gRAvkoAJwIqkrBAh7LJO6zeOSyYaIdxI50nwCgqElo 0EAyVVc7zVvblxgSpkac1nk= =76Ph -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-bm0SOvEjsFtH0HBHBnJk-- From mblackwell@wallace.com Tue Jun 4 22:02:16 2002 From: mblackwell@wallace.com (Mike Blackwell) Date: 04 Jun 2002 16:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] Re: Users digest, Vol 1 #271 - 11 msgs In-Reply-To: <200206041918.g54JIPS21997@trna.ximian.com> References: <200206041918.g54JIPS21997@trna.ximian.com> Message-ID: <1023224540.3425.4.camel@mike_b_linux.wallace.com> > From: linux.eqed why is there no hard drive management tool comparable to Partition Magic, To be accurate, Partition Magic runs under DR DOS, not any Microsoft os. Look closely at those messages when the Partition Magic disk boots. Anyway, I used it to set up a dual boot Linux/Win2k and it worked just fine. It's os neutral :) Mike From lnx1138@us.ibm.com Tue Jun 4 22:52:38 2002 From: lnx1138@us.ibm.com (Luciano Chavez) Date: 04 Jun 2002 16:52:38 -0500 Subject: [Users] Re: Users digest, Vol 1 #271 - 11 msgs In-Reply-To: <1023224540.3425.4.camel@mike_b_linux.wallace.com> References: <200206041918.g54JIPS21997@trna.ximian.com> <1023224540.3425.4.camel@mike_b_linux.wallace.com> Message-ID: <1023227559.2066.2.camel@chavez> On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 16:02, Mike Blackwell wrote: > > From: linux.eqed > why is there no hard drive management tool comparable to Partition Magic, Take a look at EVMS (Enterprise Volume Management System). http://evms.sourceforge.net -- regards, Luciano Chavez lnx1138@us.ibm.com http://evms.sourceforge.net From mailinglisten00@hentges.net Tue Jun 4 23:58:28 2002 From: mailinglisten00@hentges.net (Matthias Hentges) Date: 05 Jun 2002 00:58:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ximian over SuSe 8 install tips? In-Reply-To: <1023191124.19937.10.camel@beatbox> References: <1023184455.1166.9.camel@mhcln01> <1023191124.19937.10.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <1023230297.12256.32.camel@mhcln01> Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 13.45 schrieb Rodney Dawes: > How is it broken? If you find problems, please file a bug If i update my current out-of-the-box gdm (maybe updated using YOU, i dont remember) with ximian gdm using red-carpet, then not all my "Sessions" will be accessible. Ie: i have the following "Sessions" in /etc/opt/gnome/gdm/Sessions: Default failsafe (symlink) gnome (symlink) kde (symlink) mwm (symlink) sawfish (symlink) windowmaker (symlink) With ximian gdm KDE, WindowMaker and mwm are not selectable during login. GDM claims that my default Session (WindowMaker) is not installed when i try to log in. Also if i want to configure gdm using the menu item "configure" in gdm my root password is not accepted (nope... Capslock wasn't on hehe). I tried it maybe 10 times but it never worked. I didnt even see any error in /var/log/messages about failed logins or such. With the out-of-the-box SuSE gdm i dont have any of the problems above. > -- dobey > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 05:55, Matthias Hentges wrote: > Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 05.33 schrieb Bill Burton: > > > > Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid, when installing Ximian Desktop over SuSE 8? > > Installed w/o problems on my SuSE 8.0. > If you are using gdm as login manager, dont update it because > the ximian gdm is kinda broken > > -- > Matthias Hentges > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Matthias Hentges [www.hentges.net] From awilliam@whitemice.org Wed Jun 5 00:25:26 2002 From: awilliam@whitemice.org (Adam Williams) Date: 04 Jun 2002 19:25:26 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> >Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will >allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having Rh7.3 ships with evolution. Evolution does not require Ximian (per se), but a recent full version of GNOME. >to be dependant on exterior Ximian formatted libraries or other >applications? I am not in a position to install any packages that will >create a dependancy on Ximian and want to keep it that way, but I do >want to try Evo. >Last time I grabbed the RH Evo package, it wanted me to install several >Ximian apps to go along with it, like a bonobo-ximian package and so on. >Any way around this? No. bonobo-ximian isn't an application. Bonobo is the GNOME component system. Evolution is a Bonobo application (a skin around several Bonobo components, to put is simply). From eebe@gmx.net Wed Jun 5 00:33:09 2002 From: eebe@gmx.net (Matthias Hentges) Date: 05 Jun 2002 01:33:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet for SuSe 8.0? In-Reply-To: <1023220583.1391.8.camel@linux> References: <1023220583.1391.8.camel@linux> Message-ID: <1023232143.12113.45.camel@mhcln01> Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 21.56 schrieb Robert Floyd: > I see that the Ximian desktop is now available for SuSe 8.0. However, > I'd like to install just Red Carpet, and that still does not seem to > support SuSe 8.0. Download the red-carpet rpm from the ximian ftp-server in the SuSE8.0 subfolder. Sorry i can't remember the URL. Works for me. > Is there something strange with 8.0? I also notice the SuSe FTP site > doesn't have the 8.0 distro for download yet. i dont think the full 8.0 will be for download anytime soon. Maybe they will upload a "live" CD Remember: SuSE wants to *sell* their distro :) -- Matthias Hentges Contact-Information: E-Mail@Home: eebe@gmx.net My Homepage: http://www.hentges.net You can get my public PGP or GnuPG key from http://www.hentges.net/keys.html From cwsulliv@triad.rr.com Wed Jun 5 00:57:25 2002 From: cwsulliv@triad.rr.com (Charles Sullivan) Date: 04 Jun 2002 19:57:25 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( In-Reply-To: <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> References: <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> Message-ID: <1023235045.4034.70.camel@OEMComputer> On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:48, Aaron Weber wrote: > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:26, linux.eqed wrote: > Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just mpeg's) > > Playing, recording, and decryption of DVDs with open source software is > illegal under international copyright law and the Digital Millenium > Copyright Act. If you'd like to change these laws, contact your > lawmakers and/or make a donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation > at http://eff.org. The legal issue per the MDCA is the decryption of encrypted DVDs, not playing or recording DVDs per se. Certainly there are open-source DVD players, e.g., Xine, which are legal in the USA, but of course all (or almost all) commercially-published DVDs are encrypted and can't be played without the use of illegal plugins. I second your advice to those who would like to see this (IMO inane and destructive) law changed. The EFF is a good starting place to learn about the issues. There does appear to be a dearth of Linux software drivers for the available (legal) DVD burners at the present time. Perhaps this will improve if the popularity of these burners helps bring their prices down. (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and the above must be considered as only my own personal opinion.) Regards, Charles Sullivan From davidgn@servidor.unam.mx Wed Jun 5 02:51:06 2002 From: davidgn@servidor.unam.mx (David Eduardo Gomez Noguera) Date: 04 Jun 2002 20:51:06 -0500 Subject: [Users] wish In-Reply-To: <1023223337.1974.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023060522.14877.3.camel@hikaru> <1023223337.1974.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023241881.1632.15.camel@hikaru> And their response most have got you by the way you answered, saying most users are not even aware of the existandce of filters and all. I was not thinking on filtering, or breaking a digest into various mail, i was just like proposing. (not marriage, of course) I Like having digests so that i dont fludge my "folders" with mail. Its also a nice way to store it. Anyway, in the heading of each mail on a digest, a context menu would be a nice feature. Just my thoughts. Though finding a way to browse through threads in such situation would be crazy. (alway wanted to say this.) Just my cent. :) On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:48, Raider wrote: > The Evolution filtering system is at least primitive. Hmm... who > knows? Maybe because most email users aren't even aware of the > existance of filters. Anyway, I'll give you the advice the Evolution > developers gave me a few days ago: use procmail which is a real > filtering system. With procmail you get formail - a tool specialised in > breaking digests into messages. > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 02:28, David Eduardo Gomez Noguera wrote: > > Hello. > > This might already be supported but i dont know, so i think this would > > be cool. > > > > Some way to browse/reply/store mailing list that come in digest, as to > > be able to reply to only one message. > -- ICQ: 15605359 Bicho =^..^= First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Mahatma Gandhi. -------------------------------µ¤¸¡ÂΤΰìÃ×------------------------------------ ½뤵´¨¤µ¤âÈà´ߤޤǡ£ Îø¤ˤ·¤·¤礦¤ʤ·¡£Îø¤Ϥ·¤¢¤ó¤Î¾¡£ ¥¢¥ó ¥¢¥ó ¥¢¥ó ¤ȤäƤâÂ繥¤­ From marwo264@student.liu.se Wed Jun 5 02:58:09 2002 From: marwo264@student.liu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg) Date: 05 Jun 2002 03:58:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> Message-ID: <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> ons 2002-06-05 klockan 01.25 skrev Adam Williams: > >Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will > >allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having > > Rh7.3 ships with evolution. Evolution does not require Ximian (per se), > but a recent full version of GNOME. Well why not write a Qt-version that isn't bound to Gnome or KDE or any other Desktop Environment.. so that users can choose what to run themselves... Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. I use KDE 3 now because it's so much nicer than Gnome is right now and 2.0 didnt seem to change that.. it broke my entire system instead.. I cant upgrade my Mozilla to 1.0 since Ximian hasnt updated.. I hate that.. why not build programs on the standard libraries instead??? The Gnome libs are just taking up valuable space right now but I need them to run Evolution... and No.. Im not that good of a programmer (yet) so I can change Evo to be none gnome dependant... > >to be dependant on exterior Ximian formatted libraries or other > >applications? I am not in a position to install any packages that will > >create a dependancy on Ximian and want to keep it that way, but I do > >want to try Evo. > >Last time I grabbed the RH Evo package, it wanted me to install several > >Ximian apps to go along with it, like a bonobo-ximian package and so on. > >Any way around this? > > No. bonobo-ximian isn't an application. Bonobo is the GNOME component > system. Evolution is a Bonobo application (a skin around several Bonobo > components, to put is simply). Who named the Calender process (or whatever it is) wombat? WOMBAT => Waste Of Money Brain And Time! (I assume its the calender since when wombat crashes the calender does too) /Mrten From awilliam@whitemice.org Wed Jun 5 03:21:22 2002 From: awilliam@whitemice.org (Adam Williams) Date: 04 Jun 2002 22:21:22 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> Message-ID: <1023243683.19982.5.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> >>>Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will >>>allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having >>Rh7.3 ships with evolution. Evolution does not require Ximian (per se), >>but a recent full version of GNOME. >Well why not write a Qt-version that isn't bound to Gnome or KDE or any >other Desktop Environment.. so that users can choose what to run >themselves... I suppose you could, but Bonobo is tied to the GTK object model. You would basically have to create an entirely new app, probably re-inventing something like Bonobo, CAMEL, etc... along the way. Great apps evolve out of a robust developement environment, and GNOME provides that in spades. >Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC >mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I >install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I >try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is >since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. >I use KDE 3 now because it's so much nicer than Gnome is right now and >2.0 didnt seem to change that.. it broke my entire system instead.. 2.0 busted the system I tried it on too, but 2.0 hasn't been released yet, so whose surprised. >I cant upgrade my Mozilla to 1.0 since Ximian hasnt updated.. I hate >that.. why not build programs on the standard libraries instead??? Because "standard" libraries just don't provide the functionality. >The Gnome libs are just taking up valuable space right now but I need >them to run Evolution... and No.. Im not that good of a programmer (yet) >so I can change Evo to be none gnome dependant... GNOME provides functionality Evo needs, so it won't ever be non-gnome dependant. From fgore@sympatico.ca Wed Jun 5 03:44:53 2002 From: fgore@sympatico.ca (Frank Gore) Date: 04 Jun 2002 22:44:53 -0400 Subject: [Users] New List Member, Many Questions Message-ID: <1023245094.270.56.camel@GoreLin> I've been looking everywhere for help on setting up Evolution to help m do my job, but without any success so far. Hopefully the people on this list can finally help me figure things out. Part of my job involves answering hundreds of emails everyday from countless customers. All my emails need to be carefully sorted as they come in so that I can keep track of everything that's happening. On average, I receive about 600 emails a day. So obviously I need a lot of filters. And that's where one of my problems comes up: 1. Is there any way to setup filters that sort according to JUST the "to:" field OR the "cc:" field? In the filter menus, there's only a general "Recipients" field, and no way to determine the specific field I need. I noticed that the filter file is written in basic XML, so would there be a way to write more specific filters by hand? 2. When I hit "reply" to answer an email, the wrong "from" account is often set by default. For example, most of the emails I receive are actually redirects from a bunch of different aliases. Since my actual email address does not appear in the "to:" or "cc:" fields (the email alias address does), Evolution wrongly sets the "from" account to whatever is the system default. Is there any way to make Evolution automatically set the "from" account based on which account the email I'm replying to came from? Does Evolution even keep track of source accounts when it stores emails? 3. I'd like to be able to automatically set the "reply-to:" and "cc:" (or "bcc:") to a default whenever an email is sent from a specific account. I want these fields automatically filled in when I send email from the gps account, but not from any other account. I was hoping there was an outgoing filter that could do that, but I haven't found one. When I respond to a customer, I need other people in my company to see my response (hence the need for a "cc:" or "bcc:" on every email), and I want the customer to reply to a generic alias address so that everyone in the company will see the customer's reply as well (hence the "reply-to:") 4. Is there any way to make Evolution always launch with the Summary page displayed? The way it is now, it always launches with the last item I was looking at. This may seem trivial, but I'm a scatterbrain and I always seem to forget to look at the Summary page for my pending tasks. If it could be displayed by default everytime I launch Evolution, that would help a lot. If I could get Evolution to do all these things, I could finally stop using multiple email clieants and just stick to this one. It's woth noting that Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail can both do ALL of the things I've asked about in this email. They can filter by the "to:" OR "cc:" field individually, they can automatically set the right "from" account based on the account the original email was sent to, and they can auto-fill the "reply-to:" and "bcc:" fields based on the source account. But they're so damn slow compared to Evolution that my email tasks take FOREVER to complete everyday. I really hope someone can help with some or all of these issues! Thanks in advance, Frank Gore From fgore@sympatico.ca Wed Jun 5 04:09:30 2002 From: fgore@sympatico.ca (Frank Gore) Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:09:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> Message-ID: <1023246571.270.79.camel@GoreLin> On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 21:58, Mrten Woxberg wrote: > Well why not write a Qt-version that isn't bound to Gnome or KDE or any > other Desktop Environment.. so that users can choose what to run > themselves... Then we'd need the Qt libraries instead :) And what's Qt's most famous use right now? KDE of course... so we're really just trading one desktop environment for another. Seems a bit silly. Looks to me like Ximian made a significant investment in a complete Gnome solution. It only makes sense that Evolution would be heavily steeped in Gnome. Ximian develops a complete desktop solution, not just a bunch of individual apps. I consider the fact that we can run Evolution by itself in just about any environment to be a bonus. I don't even run Gnome (can't stand it), but I use a bunch of Gnome apps. Most of those apps need the Gnome libraries to run. And I use a bunch of KDE apps too, but I also don't run KDE. So I have both Gnome AND KDE installed, and I really use neither! Plus, you don't need to install ALL of Gnome to run Evolution. Just most of the libraries. In the end, it adds up to less than half of the full Gnome package (size-wise). > Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC > mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I > install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I > try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is > since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. All the more reason to hate rpm-based systems... it's really a shame that rpm is now the standard for Linux. I can't install ANY rpm packages because all my Slackware packages don't exist in the rpm database. If a rpm package needs GTK+ 1.2, I can't install it despite the fact that I actually HAVE GTK+ 1.2 installed. How Microsoft-ish... > I use KDE 3 now because it's so much nicer than Gnome is right now and > 2.0 didnt seem to change that.. it broke my entire system instead.. Isn't 2.0 still in development? Why would anyone expect it to run well? KDE 3 (3.01 now) is officially released, Gnome 2.0 is not. > The Gnome libs are just taking up valuable space right now but I need > them to run Evolution... and No.. Im not that good of a programmer (yet) > so I can change Evo to be none gnome dependant... If you think about it, most of the libraries on your system are taking up valuable space and yet are never being used. I'd be willing to bet that there are libraries (other than Gnome) installed on your system that haven't EVER been used. This is especially true on all rpm-based systems. But if you use Evolution, then you actually are using those Gnome libraries for something. As far as I'm concerned, those Gnome libraries are just the "other half" of Evolution. If Evolution was re-written to be entirely independant of all desktop environments, it would probably be twice as big (or more) since it would have to incorporate those functions it no longer has access to in the libraries... Frank Gore From smchenry@columbus.rr.com Wed Jun 5 04:14:19 2002 From: smchenry@columbus.rr.com (Sean McHenry) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 23:14:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <200206050128.g551S1S20872@trna.ximian.com> Message-ID: <002801c20c3f$14f0bef0$0201a8c0@bighector> I will have to take these answers to mean that Evolution will always be dependant on Ximian libs and packages then? I am really asking this, is there a way to install Evolution on my up to date RedHat 7.2 system as a stand alone application without installing ANYTHING Ximian on the system? All I want to ever have to worry about upgrading is the RedHat packages that came with the RedHat system. I have upgraded to Mozilla 1.0 and love it. I have done other upgrades that are apparently not in line with Ximians re-packaging and I do not plan to go backwards to satisfy dependencies for any application that uses (almost) proprietary packaging. Isn't that really the sort of thing we all got upset with M$ about? Trapping you into a line of packages that might or might not be supported at any given time? Sean McHenry McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio 43026 http://www.McHenryTech.com/ smchenry@columbus.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: users-admin@ximian.com [mailto:users-admin@ximian.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:28 PM To: users@ximian.com Subject: Users digest, Vol 1 #272 - 16 msgs Send Users mailing list submissions to users@ximian.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to users-request@ximian.com You can reach the person managing the list at users-admin@ximian.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Open Office 1.0 inferior to Open Office 641d Developer Version (Russ Haskett) 2. Re: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( (Richard Crawford) 3. RE: Ximian broke my linux :( (Aaron Baer) 4. RE: Ximian broke my linux :( (Craig Williams) 5. Re: wish (Raider) 6. Re: Ximian W32 version (Raider) 7. Re: Users digest, Vol 1 #271 - 11 msgs (Mike Blackwell) 8. Re: Re: Users digest, Vol 1 #271 - 11 msgs (Luciano Chavez) 9. Re: Ximian over SuSe 8 install tips? (Matthias Hentges) 10. Re: Evolution - and nothing else. (Adam Williams) 11. Re: Red Carpet for SuSe 8.0? (Matthias Hentges) 12. Re: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( (Charles Sullivan) 13. Re: wish (David Eduardo Gomez Noguera) 14. Re: Evolution - and nothing else. (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg) 15. Re: Evolution - and nothing else. (Adam Williams) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: Re: [Users] Open Office 1.0 inferior to Open Office 641d Developer Version From: Russ Haskett To: Ximian <319FB8934F09BF48A3F322837088266763FFF5@wsimail.worksystems.org> Date: 04 Jun 2002 15:09:39 -0500 i have been using OOo 1.0 on my redhat 7.2 (2.4.18 kernel) since a few days after it came out. i have also loaded it on win98 and NT boxes. all has gone well and i have found the program to be bug free so far on all boxes (although it's slow on the win98 box). your problem could be with changes in the RedHat 7.3 just my experience, hope this helps On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 14:48, Eric Jahn wrote: > Using Redhat Linux 7.3, but I imagine this applies to other flavors of > Linux, the OO 1.0 install was buggy and crashed. Using OO 641D or OO > 641C (latest stable developer build), the install worked correctly and > the operation of the program is flawless. I wish Ximian would put a > better build of open office on their Redcarpet service. > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( From: Richard Crawford To: Aaron Weber Cc: "linux.eqed" , users@ximian.com <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> Date: 04 Jun 2002 13:16:42 -0700 Bravo! Aaron, you just said much more eloquently what I was just now trying to say on another list. I even used the car analogy. On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 12:48, Aaron Weber wrote: > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:26, linux.eqed wrote: > > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > From: linux.eqed > To: Aaron Baer > Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > Date: 6/4/2002 3:23:59 PM > > > > A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how his car works he want to go to > work and the store and the baseball game. > > That's a common comparison. One of the things that we're trying to do > at Ximian is create something that "just works"-- but remember, you > had to learn a lot about how to drive a car before you were allowed to > handle it alone. You may have heard the story of the kid given a new > car for his 16th birthday, who drove it until the engine just froze. > "What do you mean, I had to change the oil?" he said. Things are not > always as simple as we imagine them to be. > > But yes, Linux is, in many ways, not yet as easy as Windows. In other > ways, it's easier, especially if you have a good "mechanic." Zumiez, > for example, the clothing retailer, uses a version of Ximian desktop > with just three buttons on the desktop: Mail, Spreadsheet, and their > Point-of-sale application. The store managers don't know what's > inside, and they don't care what's inside. They never touch it. > > > Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq working.. > > I'm not sure why you had to recompile the kernel for that task. > This is a failing if you did. Windows probably swaps out one or > another kernel module and makes you reboot... you should similarly be > able to get a newer kernel and turn ip masqs on without any > compilation. > > Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format > not just mpeg's) > > Playing, recording, and decryption of DVDs with open source software > is illegal under international copyright law and the Digital Millenium > Copyright Act. If you'd like to change these laws, contact your > lawmakers and/or make a donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation > at http://eff.org. > > It's true that the general system administration tools are not as > pleasant as they could be. The XST project does some work to promote > the ease of configuration for Linux and UNIX systems' font handling, > user configuration, sharing, disk and memory management, and so forth, > and they have made significant amounts of progress. If you're > interested in getting involved, visit #xst or #gnome on irc.gnome.org, > or subscribe to the gnome-hackers mailing list. > > Why don't these programs exist? Well, they haven't been written. > Yet. What are you going to do about it? > > I know what I'm doing about it-- I'm contributing to the ease of use > of free software by writing additional manuals, participating in > mailing lists and online conversations, supporting people whenever > they run into problems I've seen before, filing bug reports for > software... I can't program, but that hasn't stopped me and you > shouldn't let it stop you either. > > Yours, > Aaron Weber > Ximian, Inc. > > > > > > > -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford mailto:rscrawford@mossroot.com http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Yahoo!: rscrawford MSN: underpope@hotmail.com "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery vi vi vi - the editor of the beast --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: RE: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( From: Aaron Baer To: craig@ip80.com Cc: ximian-users Date: 04 Jun 2002 13:24:38 -0700 Wow.. That's terribly drastic.. Next time feel free to email back to the list or the person who responds to your post with more details and or issues after your attempts to fix fail.. I can guarantee that your problem could have been fixed without reloading the whole machine.. However, every time you install a Linux system you usually learn something new so you may not have lost out this time. The problem at that point was most likely with X itself and not with gdm specifically .. The file that controls the settings for XFree86 ver. 4 is called XF86Conf-4 and is typically located in /etc/X11 . Things like Keyboard mapping, Mouse Device configuration, Hardware Drivers, resolution, screen depth are defined for X Windows in this file. After the machine booted and X would not start you were most likely presented with a console login prompt correct? Logging in there as root and running sax2 would have helped you configure these settings.. Have you attempted to install Ximian again? Were you successful this time? A- On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 12:08, Craig Williams wrote: > Nope, had to rebuild my machine. > > I fixed the gdm.conf file but X still wouldn't start on boot and I > could'nt find a way to recover gnome. > > I've logged this bug. > > Craig > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aaron Baer [mailto:judah@opusnet.com] > > Sent: 04 June 2002 19:36 > > To: craig@ip80.com > > Subject: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > > > > Have you had any luck solving this issue? > > > > A- > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 16:22, Aaron Baer wrote: > > > Well for one thing it didn't break "your linux" .. What happened > > > is > > > that X Windows, which runs on top of of the linux kernel as an > > > application, had it's configuration changed during the installation > > > and now is not functioning properly for your video card and > > resolution > > > capabilities. > > > > > > Log in as root at the console and try using sax2 from the > > command line > > > to reconfigure X.. > > > > > > I'm not an avid SuSe user so there might be someone else > > lurking that > > > can point you in a more clear direction. The main point is > > your linux > > > is not broken... > > > > > > Have patience, Have fun, in time everything will come naturally, > > > A- > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 15:36, Craig Williams wrote: > > > > I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". > > > > > > > > After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. > > > > > > > > Suse8.0 ? > > > > > > > > any ideas ? > > > > > > > > C > > > > -- > > ---- > > Aaron Baer > > judah@opusnet.com > > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ --__--__-- Message: 4 Reply-To: From: "Craig Williams" To: Subject: RE: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:30:32 +0100 charset="us-ascii" Hi Aaron, As you rightly say, I enjoy installing linux at present because it keeps the process fresh in my brain :) I'm too used to slackware, my old os (no good for dev.) I could run X but only with the KDE desktop. I wanted to try again but someone else mentioned that gdm didn't work with ximian and suse8 but I can't seem to NOT install it. I was thinking of backing up the various conf files and then installing and if it broke again, just replace the conf files and see what happens ? thanks Craig > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Baer [mailto:judah@opusnet.com] > Sent: 04 June 2002 21:25 > To: craig@ip80.com > Cc: ximian-users > Subject: RE: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > Wow.. That's terribly drastic.. > > Next time feel free to email back to the list or the person > who responds to your post with more details and or issues > after your attempts to fix fail.. I can guarantee that your > problem could have been fixed without reloading the whole > machine.. However, every time you install a Linux system you > usually learn something new so you may not have lost out this time. > > The problem at that point was most likely with X itself and > not with gdm specifically .. The file that controls the > settings for XFree86 ver. 4 is called XF86Conf-4 and is > typically located in /etc/X11 . Things like Keyboard mapping, > Mouse Device configuration, Hardware Drivers, resolution, > screen depth are defined for X Windows in this file. > After the machine booted and X would not start you were most > likely presented with a console login prompt correct? Logging > in there as root and running sax2 would have helped you > configure these settings.. > > Have you attempted to install Ximian again? Were you > successful this time? > > A- > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 12:08, Craig Williams wrote: > > Nope, had to rebuild my machine. > > > > I fixed the gdm.conf file but X still wouldn't start on boot and I > > could'nt find a way to recover gnome. > > > > I've logged this bug. > > > > Craig > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Aaron Baer [mailto:judah@opusnet.com] > > > Sent: 04 June 2002 19:36 > > > To: craig@ip80.com > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( > > > > > > > > > Have you had any luck solving this issue? > > > > > > A- > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 16:22, Aaron Baer wrote: > > > > Well for one thing it didn't break "your linux" .. What > happened > > > > is > > > > that X Windows, which runs on top of of the linux kernel as an > > > > application, had it's configuration changed during the > installation > > > > and now is not functioning properly for your video card and > > > resolution > > > > capabilities. > > > > > > > > Log in as root at the console and try using sax2 from the > > > command line > > > > to reconfigure X.. > > > > > > > > I'm not an avid SuSe user so there might be someone else > > > lurking that > > > > can point you in a more clear direction. The main point is > > > your linux > > > > is not broken... > > > > > > > > Have patience, Have fun, in time everything will come naturally, > > > > A- > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 15:36, Craig Williams wrote: > > > > > I just installed the complete desktop "Everything". > > > > > > > > > > After reboot I get an error about gdm and X doesn't start. > > > > > > > > > > Suse8.0 ? > > > > > > > > > > any ideas ? > > > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > -- > > > ---- > > > Aaron Baer > > > judah@opusnet.com > > > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > -- > ---- > Aaron Baer > judah@opusnet.com > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > > --__--__-- Message: 5 Subject: Re: [Users] wish From: Raider To: David Eduardo Gomez Noguera Cc: Ximian Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:48:00 +0300 --=-5CfZZq0/cILqbaD6p+IM Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Evolution filtering system is at least primitive. Hmm... who knows? Maybe because most email users aren't even aware of the existance of filters. Anyway, I'll give you the advice the Evolution developers gave me a few days ago: use procmail which is a real filtering system. With procmail you get formail - a tool specialised in breaking digests into messages. On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 02:28, David Eduardo Gomez Noguera wrote: > Hello. > This might already be supported but i dont know, so i think this would >be cool. =20 > Some way to browse/reply/store mailing list that come in digest, as to > be able to reply to only one message. --=-5CfZZq0/cILqbaD6p+IM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8/SYoJRE4XzTZU8gRAiFNAKCNbO0KQpFErMCPRbl3EFXcqcq+agCfeLy5 0dH9oPh9mjGtmS2JSreViwk= =OCs7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5CfZZq0/cILqbaD6p+IM-- --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: Re: [Users] Ximian W32 version From: Raider To: Paulo Silva Cc: users@ximian.com Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:48:32 +0300 --=-bm0SOvEjsFtH0HBHBnJk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 1997-10-11 at 10:21, Paulo Silva wrote: > do you have plans on compiling and distribute Windoz32 versions of > Ximian Evolution? - i'm asking this because a lot of people is not > crazy on usin= g > Outlook, and the lacks Eudora and others still have What do you mean with "the lacks Eudora..."? Because it is older, or whatever other reason might be, Eudora can't be compared at the current time with Evolution. Of course, Evolution has its advantages - like being open source. But Evolution has a long way ahead before getting to Eudora (I'm talking about v5.1). --=-bm0SOvEjsFtH0HBHBnJk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8/Sa9JRE4XzTZU8gRAvkoAJwIqkrBAh7LJO6zeOSyYaIdxI50nwCgqElo 0EAyVVc7zVvblxgSpkac1nk= =76Ph -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-bm0SOvEjsFtH0HBHBnJk-- --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Mike Blackwell To: users@ximian.com Date: 04 Jun 2002 16:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] Re: Users digest, Vol 1 #271 - 11 msgs > From: linux.eqed why is there no hard drive management tool comparable to Partition Magic, To be accurate, Partition Magic runs under DR DOS, not any Microsoft os. Look closely at those messages when the Partition Magic disk boots. Anyway, I used it to set up a dual boot Linux/Win2k and it worked just fine. It's os neutral :) Mike --__--__-- Message: 8 Subject: Re: [Users] Re: Users digest, Vol 1 #271 - 11 msgs From: Luciano Chavez To: Mike Blackwell Cc: users@ximian.com <1023224540.3425.4.camel@mike_b_linux.wallace.com> Date: 04 Jun 2002 16:52:38 -0500 On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 16:02, Mike Blackwell wrote: > > From: linux.eqed > why is there no hard drive management tool comparable to Partition > Magic, Take a look at EVMS (Enterprise Volume Management System). http://evms.sourceforge.net -- regards, Luciano Chavez lnx1138@us.ibm.com http://evms.sourceforge.net --__--__-- Message: 9 Subject: Re: [Users] Ximian over SuSe 8 install tips? From: Matthias Hentges To: Rodney Dawes Cc: users@ximian.com <1023184455.1166.9.camel@mhcln01> <1023191124.19937.10.camel@beatbox> Date: 05 Jun 2002 00:58:28 +0200 Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 13.45 schrieb Rodney Dawes: > How is it broken? If you find problems, please file a bug If i update my current out-of-the-box gdm (maybe updated using YOU, i dont remember) with ximian gdm using red-carpet, then not all my "Sessions" will be accessible. Ie: i have the following "Sessions" in /etc/opt/gnome/gdm/Sessions: Default failsafe (symlink) gnome (symlink) kde (symlink) mwm (symlink) sawfish (symlink) windowmaker (symlink) With ximian gdm KDE, WindowMaker and mwm are not selectable during login. GDM claims that my default Session (WindowMaker) is not installed when i try to log in. Also if i want to configure gdm using the menu item "configure" in gdm my root password is not accepted (nope... Capslock wasn't on hehe). I tried it maybe 10 times but it never worked. I didnt even see any error in /var/log/messages about failed logins or such. With the out-of-the-box SuSE gdm i dont have any of the problems above. > -- dobey > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 05:55, Matthias Hentges wrote: > Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 05.33 schrieb Bill Burton: > > > > Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid, when installing Ximian Desktop > over SuSE 8? > > Installed w/o problems on my SuSE 8.0. > If you are using gdm as login manager, dont update it because > the ximian gdm is kinda broken > > -- > Matthias Hentges > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Matthias Hentges [www.hentges.net] --__--__-- Message: 10 Subject: Re: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. From: Adam Williams To: smchenry@columbus.rr.com Cc: users@ximian.com Date: 04 Jun 2002 19:25:26 -0400 >Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will >allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having Rh7.3 ships with evolution. Evolution does not require Ximian (per se), but a recent full version of GNOME. >to be dependant on exterior Ximian formatted libraries or other >applications? I am not in a position to install any packages that will >create a dependancy on Ximian and want to keep it that way, but I do >want to try Evo. >Last time I grabbed the RH Evo package, it wanted me to install several >Ximian apps to go along with it, like a bonobo-ximian package and so on. >Any way around this? No. bonobo-ximian isn't an application. Bonobo is the GNOME component system. Evolution is a Bonobo application (a skin around several Bonobo components, to put is simply). --__--__-- Message: 11 Subject: Re: [Users] Red Carpet for SuSe 8.0? From: Matthias Hentges To: users@ximian.com Date: 05 Jun 2002 01:33:09 +0200 Am Die, 2002-06-04 um 21.56 schrieb Robert Floyd: > I see that the Ximian desktop is now available for SuSe 8.0. However, > I'd like to install just Red Carpet, and that still does not seem to > support SuSe 8.0. Download the red-carpet rpm from the ximian ftp-server in the SuSE8.0 subfolder. Sorry i can't remember the URL. Works for me. > Is there something strange with 8.0? I also notice the SuSe FTP site > doesn't have the 8.0 distro for download yet. i dont think the full 8.0 will be for download anytime soon. Maybe they will upload a "live" CD Remember: SuSE wants to *sell* their distro :) -- Matthias Hentges Contact-Information: E-Mail@Home: eebe@gmx.net My Homepage: http://www.hentges.net You can get my public PGP or GnuPG key from http://www.hentges.net/keys.html --__--__-- Message: 12 Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( From: Charles Sullivan To: users@ximian.com <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> Date: 04 Jun 2002 19:57:25 -0400 On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:48, Aaron Weber wrote: > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:26, linux.eqed wrote: > Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format > not just mpeg's) > > Playing, recording, and decryption of DVDs with open source software > is illegal under international copyright law and the Digital Millenium > Copyright Act. If you'd like to change these laws, contact your > lawmakers and/or make a donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation > at http://eff.org. The legal issue per the MDCA is the decryption of encrypted DVDs, not playing or recording DVDs per se. Certainly there are open-source DVD players, e.g., Xine, which are legal in the USA, but of course all (or almost all) commercially-published DVDs are encrypted and can't be played without the use of illegal plugins. I second your advice to those who would like to see this (IMO inane and destructive) law changed. The EFF is a good starting place to learn about the issues. There does appear to be a dearth of Linux software drivers for the available (legal) DVD burners at the present time. Perhaps this will improve if the popularity of these burners helps bring their prices down. (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and the above must be considered as only my own personal opinion.) Regards, Charles Sullivan --__--__-- Message: 13 Subject: Re: [Users] wish From: David Eduardo Gomez Noguera To: Raider Cc: Ximian <1023223337.1974.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: 04 Jun 2002 20:51:06 -0500 And their response most have got you by the way you answered, saying most users are not even aware of the existandce of filters and all. I was not thinking on filtering, or breaking a digest into various mail, i was just like proposing. (not marriage, of course) I Like having digests so that i dont fludge my "folders" with mail. Its also a nice way to store it. Anyway, in the heading of each mail on a digest, a context menu would be a nice feature. Just my thoughts. Though finding a way to browse through threads in such situation would be crazy. (alway wanted to say this.) Just my cent. :) On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:48, Raider wrote: > The Evolution filtering system is at least primitive. Hmm... who > knows? Maybe because most email users aren't even aware of the > existance of filters. Anyway, I'll give you the advice the Evolution > developers gave me a few days ago: use procmail which is a real > filtering system. With procmail you get formail - a tool specialised > in breaking digests into messages. > > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 02:28, David Eduardo Gomez Noguera wrote: > > Hello. > > This might already be supported but i dont know, so i think this > > would be cool. > > > > Some way to browse/reply/store mailing list that come in digest, as > > to be able to reply to only one message. > -- ICQ: 15605359 Bicho =^..^= First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Mahatma Gandhi. -------------------------------µ¤¸¡ÂΤΰìÃ×------------------------------------ ½뤵´¨¤µ¤âÈà ´ߤޤǡ£ Îø¤ˤ·¤·¤礦¤ʤ·¡£Îø¤Ϥ·¤¢¤ó¤Î¾¡£ ¥¢¥ó ¥¢¥ó ¥¢¥ó ¤ȤäƤâÂ繥¤­ --__--__-- Message: 14 Subject: Re: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg To: Adam Williams Cc: RedCarpetList <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> Date: 05 Jun 2002 03:58:09 +0200 ons 2002-06-05 klockan 01.25 skrev Adam Williams: > >Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will > >allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having > > Rh7.3 ships with evolution. Evolution does not require Ximian (per > se), but a recent full version of GNOME. Well why not write a Qt-version that isn't bound to Gnome or KDE or any other Desktop Environment.. so that users can choose what to run themselves... Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. I use KDE 3 now because it's so much nicer than Gnome is right now and 2.0 didnt seem to change that.. it broke my entire system instead.. I cant upgrade my Mozilla to 1.0 since Ximian hasnt updated.. I hate that.. why not build programs on the standard libraries instead??? The Gnome libs are just taking up valuable space right now but I need them to run Evolution... and No.. Im not that good of a programmer (yet) so I can change Evo to be none gnome dependant... > >to be dependant on exterior Ximian formatted libraries or other > >applications? I am not in a position to install any packages that will > >create a dependancy on Ximian and want to keep it that way, but I do > >want to try Evo. > >Last time I grabbed the RH Evo package, it wanted me to install several > >Ximian apps to go along with it, like a bonobo-ximian package and so on. > >Any way around this? > > No. bonobo-ximian isn't an application. Bonobo is the GNOME > component system. Evolution is a Bonobo application (a skin around > several Bonobo components, to put is simply). Who named the Calender process (or whatever it is) wombat? WOMBAT => Waste Of Money Brain And Time! (I assume its the calender since when wombat crashes the calender does too) /Mårten --__--__-- Message: 15 Subject: Re: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. From: Adam Williams To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg Cc: RedCarpetList <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> Date: 04 Jun 2002 22:21:22 -0400 >>>Just wondering if the current (Or future versions) of Evolution will >>>allow installation on a stock RedHat (7.2 currently) box without having >>Rh7.3 ships with evolution. Evolution does not require Ximian (per >>se), but a recent full version of GNOME. >Well why not write a Qt-version that isn't bound to Gnome or KDE or any >other Desktop Environment.. so that users can choose what to run >themselves... I suppose you could, but Bonobo is tied to the GTK object model. You would basically have to create an entirely new app, probably re-inventing something like Bonobo, CAMEL, etc... along the way. Great apps evolve out of a robust developement environment, and GNOME provides that in spades. >Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC >mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I >install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I >try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is >since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. I use >KDE 3 now because it's so much nicer than Gnome is right now and 2.0 >didnt seem to change that.. it broke my entire system instead.. 2.0 busted the system I tried it on too, but 2.0 hasn't been released yet, so whose surprised. >I cant upgrade my Mozilla to 1.0 since Ximian hasnt updated.. I hate >that.. why not build programs on the standard libraries instead??? Because "standard" libraries just don't provide the functionality. >The Gnome libs are just taking up valuable space right now but I need >them to run Evolution... and No.. Im not that good of a programmer >(yet) so I can change Evo to be none gnome dependant... GNOME provides functionality Evo needs, so it won't ever be non-gnome dependant. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users End of Users Digest From fgore@sympatico.ca Wed Jun 5 04:30:31 2002 From: fgore@sympatico.ca (Frank Gore) Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:30:31 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <002801c20c3f$14f0bef0$0201a8c0@bighector> References: <002801c20c3f$14f0bef0$0201a8c0@bighector> Message-ID: <1023247832.1148.6.camel@GoreLin> On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 23:14, Sean McHenry wrote: > I will have to take these answers to mean that Evolution will always be dependant on Ximian libs and packages then? Evolution isn't dependant on any Ximian libraries and packages at all. Evolution is the ONLY Ximian software on my computer. I don't have Red Carpet or Ximian Gnome (just a standard generic Gnome). I used to compile Evolution from source, an now I just install it from Slackware packages. There's no effort involved, and Evolution is truly a stand-alone app that I can use under any environment. So far I've used it under KDE, AfterStep, WindowMaker, BlackBox, and a couple others. The only real problem I have is when I try to view the help files and Evolution brings up Nautilus (YUCK!), which in turn loads up the Gnome desktop and ruins my window manager's root window. Beyond that annoyance, you'd never know that Evolution was using Gnome libraries. Frank Gore From Per.Thomas.Jahr@nr.no Wed Jun 5 10:29:15 2002 From: Per.Thomas.Jahr@nr.no (Per Thomas Jahr) Date: 05 Jun 2002 11:29:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to activate the addressbook completion with LDAP Message-ID: <1023269355.16471.39.camel@panda> Hi, I've read the faq about how to configure Evolution to search the LDAP server of my company when I'm composing new emails. But this doesn't work. What I've done: * configured config.xmldb with
* replaced the value field with my company ldap address. Is there more to it than this? Also I've started evolution with the debug flag but I never get a message like: evolution-addressbook-Message: using LDAP source for completion! Should I get a message like this in the debug file? How can I activate this function? I'm using version 1.0.3. Thanks -- Per Thomas Jahr From ikletti@gmx.de Wed Jun 5 11:43:26 2002 From: ikletti@gmx.de (Ingo Kletti) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:43:26 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Users] cut down citations ? Message-ID: <13787.1023273806@www6.gmx.net> Hello. I have registered for this list a few days ago and find it very useful so far. But theres one thing that really bugs me: Why do so many people that reply to a post on this list not cut down the citations to the essential part ? I see posts that are a hundred lines long but consist only of a few new ones. The rest are simply inline citations from the post thats being answered. I know that it is very comfortable to hit "reply" and then just write what you want to say. But i have the belief that for nearly all of us it would be much easier to make use of this list if we didnt have to browse through loads of repeated text. Thank you. Ingo. -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From linux.eqed@directvinternet.com Wed Jun 5 13:42:56 2002 From: linux.eqed@directvinternet.com (linux.eqed) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 08:42:56 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Users] Ximian broke my linux :( (OFF TOPIC) In-Reply-To: <1023220162.14104.26.camel@gimlet> Message-ID: Thanks again for the usefull comentary. I'm not a programmer per se which is why I have the opinion that I do.. I thank Ximian for providing such a great desktop. I wouldn't trade the power Linux provides simply for ease of use. I thought about it but didn't write it, in the car analogy, the car user has to take the car in for regular checkups and when the car says there is something wrong (the oil light is on) then service is needed then as well.. It is not the car's fault, nor is it the mechanics fault if the user ignores the warning lights etc. I love how Ximian lets you know when there is some critical upgrades, but those critical upgrades are not installed flawlessly, and in some cases "Ximian broke my linux" happens. I suppose Zumiez is a great example of what I'm talking about, but the apps are really limiting. In my line of work I have to do a lot of documentation of system integration projects, well I have to create some pretty complicated Word docs, embedded Visio and Excel to name a couple. Well, OpenOffice and others can handle the spreadsheet object, but can't handle the Visio objects. Bummer.. Maybe OpenOffice can make it play nice if they somehow can work with Dia. I am not surrendering to the DarkSide yet. MS lies to you when it says to reboot.. The DVD apps, I am not talking about stealing DVD movies. You can call me whatever, but that is illegal an unethical and should be prosecuted whenever found. I am talking about taking my home movies and creating a nice interface, especially one that can be sent to anybody and played on any dvd player. backing up 4.7 gig is nice, but not what I want to do. I am on a couple listserv's (dvdrtools-users), and I would love to write a program, maybe it will take a couple years. Or I can go buy MyDVD and have that right now.. I assume gnome-hackers is a group that tries to get non-linux apps to work on linux? Like yourself I am not a programmer, unless you consider scheme programming. Am I trying to do my part, by using the tools and answering questions to people on user groups (redhat@yahoogroups, mandrake@yahoogroups, users@ximian dvdrtools-users, plus linux advocacy on my work related user groups stc-user@yahoogroups, seebeyond-l@OpenITx) and letting others know the advantages of linux, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY OPENSOURCE.. Theoretically it should be the absolute and clear direction of computing/software development for the future. Sorry ximianers about the lack of OFF TOPIC notification.. I know better. 6/4/2002 3:48:56 PM, Aaron Weber wrote: > A friend of mine told me, he doesn't care how his car works he want to go t > work and the store and the baseball game. > > That's a common comparison. One of the things that we're trying to do at > > Ximian is create something that "just works"-- but remember, you had to > > learn a lot about how to drive a car before you were allowed to handle it > alone. You may have heard the story of the kid given a new car for his 16th > > birthday, who drove it until the engine just froze. "What do you mean, I > had to change the oil?" he said. Things are not always as simple as we > > imagine them to be. > > But yes, Linux is, in many ways, not yet as easy as Windows. In other ways, > > it's easier, especially if you have a good "mechanic." Zumiez, for example, > > the clothing retailer, uses a version of Ximian desktop with just three > buttons on the desktop: Mail, Spreadsheet, and their Point-of-sale > > application. The store managers don't know what's inside, and they don't > care what's inside. They never touch it. > > > Why do I have to re-compile the kernel to get ip-masq working.. > > > I'm not sure why you had to recompile the kernel for that task. This is a > > failing if you did. Windows probably swaps out one or another kernel module > and makes you reboot... you should similarly be able to get a newer kernel > > and turn ip masqs on without any compilation. > > Why is there no apps for burning my dvd home videos (to dvd format not just > > > Playing, recording, and decryption of DVDs with open source software is > > illegal under international copyright law and the Digital Millenium > Copyright Act. If you'd like to change these laws, contact your lawmakers > > and/or make a donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation at http:// > > eff.org. > > It's true that the general system administration tools are not as pleasant > > as they could be. The XST project does some work to promote the ease of > configuration for Linux and UNIX systems' font handling, user configuration, > > sharing, disk and memory management, and so forth, and they have made > > significant amounts of progress. If you're interested in getting involved, > visit #xst or #gnome on irc.gnome.org, or subscribe to the gnome-hackers > > mailing list. > > Why don't these programs exist? Well, they haven't been written. Yet. What > > are you going to do about it? > > I know what I'm doing about it-- I'm contributing to the ease of use of free > > software by writing additional manuals, participating in mailing lists and > > online conversations, supporting people whenever they run into problems I've > seen before, filing bug reports for software... I can't program, but that > > hasn't stopped me and you shouldn't let it stop you either. > > Yours, > > Aaron Weber > > Ximian, Inc. From vze3fsd3@verizon.net Wed Jun 5 13:58:32 2002 From: vze3fsd3@verizon.net (Peter N. Spotts) Date: 05 Jun 2002 08:58:32 -0400 Subject: [Users] Removing the clock from the top 'o'the screen panel Message-ID: <1023281913.5653.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Folks, Is there a way to disengage the clock that appears in the panel at the top of the screen with Ximian Gnome desktop? I'm using gkrellm's system monitors and clock, but showing two clocks on my destop seems a bit over the top (I know, I know, I could ditch the gkrellm clock, but it makes such a neat package!). Best regards, Pete -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Peter N. Spotts Science and technology correspondent The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 1-617-450-2449 Office in home: 1-508-520-3139 E-mail: pspotts@alum.mit.edu <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From vze3fsd3@verizon.net Wed Jun 5 14:07:05 2002 From: vze3fsd3@verizon.net (Peter N. Spotts) Date: 05 Jun 2002 09:07:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] While I'm at it...a problem getting browser to hit the web Message-ID: <1023282426.5653.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> This may be too arcane for this list, but I've been having a problem getting my browser to find pages when I use Ximian's gnome dialer with my combined modem/network pcmcia card. When I'm on line via adsl, the browser finds pages with no problem. When I'm on line with the modem portion of the card, the broswer acts as though there is no connection, even though I can hear the connection being made and the dialer indicates "connected." Is there a setting somewhere I need to tweak when I opt to use a modem (when I'm on the road, for example)? I'm using the XG desktop package with Mandrake's 8.1 distribution. Best regards, Pete -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Peter N. Spotts Science and technology correspondent The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 1-617-450-2449 Office in home: 1-508-520-3139 E-mail: pspotts@alum.mit.edu <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From cwsulliv@triad.rr.com Wed Jun 5 14:48:37 2002 From: cwsulliv@triad.rr.com (Charles Sullivan) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:48:37 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> Message-ID: <20020605094837.74e625a7.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> On 05 Jun 2002 03:58:09 +0200 Mrten Woxberg wrote: > Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC > mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I > install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I > try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is > since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. Are you sure you're not confused about the way to use RPM to query or delete packages versus the way you install them? For an install you use the filename, but to query or delete you use the package name. E.g.: rpm -i mypackage-1.2.3-1.i386.rpm rpm -e mypackage From dobey@ximian.com Wed Jun 5 15:05:32 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 05 Jun 2002 10:05:32 -0400 Subject: [Users] Removing the clock from the top 'o'the screen panel In-Reply-To: <1023281913.5653.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023281913.5653.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023285932.32234.3.camel@beatbox> There is no way in GNOME 1.4 to remove the clock from the menu panel. You can instead either use a normal panel at the top of the screen, or use the gnome2 panel (which I wouldn't really advise unless you want to use bleeding-edge, potentially unstable, software, that may at any time, break your system unexpectedly. :)) -- dobey On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 08:58, Peter N. Spotts wrote: Folks, Is there a way to disengage the clock that appears in the panel at the top of the screen with Ximian Gnome desktop? I'm using gkrellm's system monitors and clock, but showing two clocks on my destop seems a bit over the top (I know, I know, I could ditch the gkrellm clock, but it makes such a neat package!). Best regards, Pete -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Peter N. Spotts Science and technology correspondent The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 1-617-450-2449 Office in home: 1-508-520-3139 E-mail: pspotts@alum.mit.edu <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From marwo264@student.liu.se Wed Jun 5 15:48:57 2002 From: marwo264@student.liu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg) Date: 05 Jun 2002 16:48:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <20020605094837.74e625a7.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> <20020605094837.74e625a7.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> Message-ID: <1023288537.1425.6.camel@k27> ons 2002-06-05 klockan 15.48 skrev Charles Sullivan: > On 05 Jun 2002 03:58:09 +0200 > Mrten Woxberg wrote: > > > Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC > > mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I > > install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I > > try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is > > since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. > > Are you sure you're not confused about the way to use RPM to query or > delete packages versus the way you install them? For an install you > use the filename, but to query or delete you use the package name. > E.g.: > rpm -i mypackage-1.2.3-1.i386.rpm Well... if there's a Difference with doing rpm -Uvh mypackage.rpm and what you say above.. I am doing wrong.. I use Uvh cause that's what it says on most installinstructions and that's supposed to be Install but Upgrade if not present.. right? > rpm -e mypackage This is what I do... but it wont work anyways... /Mrten > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From judah@opusnet.com Wed Jun 5 17:37:30 2002 From: judah@opusnet.com (Aaron Baer) Date: 05 Jun 2002 09:37:30 -0700 Subject: [Users] While I'm at it...a problem getting browser to hit the web In-Reply-To: <1023282426.5653.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023282426.5653.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023295062.12811.15.camel@laptop> Peter, After you connect with the modem are you able to ping machines on the Internet by IP address? ie.. Have you confirmed that you have actually achieved a good connection? Are other programs able to communicate out to the Internet like email or something? If you can ping a machine by IP but can't by machine name maybe your /etc/resolv.conf file isn't being updated with a valid DNS lookup entry.. If you can't even ping to the Internet by IP address try running /sbin/ifconfig to make sure your PPP device is up properly and try pinging something on the same subnet that your dial-up device is on.. The gateway if you know what that IP is.. If you can ping something on that network, but not to the Internet, then it's possibly a routing problem on that network.. If you can't even get that far then it's a local problem, any errors in /var/log/messages? Try having a terminal window open when you dial the modem with `tail -f /var/log/messages` running.. A- On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 06:07, Peter N. Spotts wrote: > This may be too arcane for this list, but I've been having a problem > getting my browser to find pages when I use Ximian's gnome dialer with > my combined modem/network pcmcia card. When I'm on line via adsl, the > browser finds pages with no problem. When I'm on line with the modem > portion of the card, the broswer acts as though there is no connection, > even though I can hear the connection being made and the dialer > indicates "connected." Is there a setting somewhere I need to tweak when > I opt to use a modem (when I'm on the road, for example)? I'm using the > XG desktop package with Mandrake's 8.1 distribution. > > Pete -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ From ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com Wed Jun 5 17:46:41 2002 From: ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com (Thomas Spuhler) Date: 05 Jun 2002 09:46:41 -0700 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <20020605094837.74e625a7.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> <20020605094837.74e625a7.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> Message-ID: <1023295602.1996.29.camel@international.tusonix.com> --=-DOZI99F3Tth75ddDCbgx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable open a shell and become root=20 Try rpmdb --rebuilddb To rebuild your rpm database Tom On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 06:48, Charles Sullivan wrote: > On 05 Jun 2002 03:58:09 +0200 > M=E5rten Woxberg wrote: >=20 > > Right now I only use Ximian products like Red-Carpet and Evolution.. RC > > mostly because it has broken my rpm database totaly so that when I > > install programs they do not properly register as installed so when I > > try to rpm -e them all I get is "is not installed" but I know it is > > since I can run it and the installation went to the full 100%.. >=20 > Are you sure you're not confused about the way to use RPM to query or > delete packages versus the way you install them? For an install you > use the filename, but to query or delete you use the package name. > E.g.: > rpm -i mypackage-1.2.3-1.i386.rpm >=20 > rpm -e mypackage >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 >=20 --=-DOZI99F3Tth75ddDCbgx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8/kBvRNTJyxguVFsRAhcqAJ4kqKKToZgEFQDNsI/kOfygDH6I9ACgwnEz iMGts1wK9MPJ/vL3KWnfq1Q= =IF8g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DOZI99F3Tth75ddDCbgx-- From cwsulliv@triad.rr.com Wed Jun 5 18:27:08 2002 From: cwsulliv@triad.rr.com (Charles Sullivan) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:27:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - and nothing else. In-Reply-To: <1023295602.1996.29.camel@international.tusonix.com> References: <3CFCD1F4.7020907@columbus.rr.com> <1023233126.19193.2.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> <1023242294.4793.6.camel@k27> <20020605094837.74e625a7.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> <1023295602.1996.29.camel@international.tusonix.com> Message-ID: <20020605132708.6cf0ff15.cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> On 05 Jun 2002 09:46:41 -0700 Thomas Spuhler wrote: > open a shell and become root > > Try rpmdb --rebuilddb > > To rebuild your rpm database > > Tom What's the difference between using: rpmdb --rebuilddb rpm --rebuilddb I have no man page for rpmdb on my RH 7.2 system. From rpalmeri@mindspring.com Wed Jun 5 18:23:04 2002 From: rpalmeri@mindspring.com (Russ Palmeri) Date: 05 Jun 2002 13:23:04 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution Back Up Message-ID: <1023297784.802.4.camel@linux> What files/ folders should I back up to save a copy of my evo. files? Should it be the whole Evolution folder in my home directory?? Thanks, Russ -- ********************************** Russ Palmeri Asheville, NC *********************************** linux resistance is futile..... From cparrish@icegallery.com Wed Jun 5 17:10:44 2002 From: cparrish@icegallery.com (Carl Parrish) Date: 05 Jun 2002 09:10:44 -0700 Subject: [Users] Default browser Message-ID: <1023293449.27775.70.camel@hawkeye> How do I set Mozilla to be my default browser in evolution? Right now whenever I click on a link I Galeon opens up. Carl P. From cparrish@icegallery.com Wed Jun 5 17:13:44 2002 From: cparrish@icegallery.com (Carl Parrish) Date: 05 Jun 2002 09:13:44 -0700 Subject: [Users] Galeon losing settings Message-ID: <1023293630.27773.74.camel@hawkeye> Whenever I shutdown then relaunch Galeon *any* prefs I set are now lost. such as my homepage and proxy server. Any idea what's going on here? My guess right now is that somehow its fighting with mozilla over the prefs if so does anyone know how to stop it? I'm running Galeon 1.2.0 Carl Parrish From rcampos@cnio.es Wed Jun 5 19:56:42 2002 From: rcampos@cnio.es (Ramon Campos-Olivas) Date: 05 Jun 2002 20:56:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] attachment file association Message-ID: <1023303402.7375.4.camel@eurico> Dear ALL, I am trying to configure the little box that appears with an attachment when receiving mail in XIMIAN EVOLUTION, so that upon right click it shows the preferred application to open the attachment, according to the extension of the attached file (eg. use staroffice to open *.doc files). Thank you very much beforehand for your help, Ramon -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ramon Campos-Olivas. NMR Department Structural and Computational Biology Program Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Oncologicas C. Melchor Fernandez Almagro, 3. Madrid E-28029.Spain Tel:+34-91-2246900/6983(direct). Fax:+34-91-2246976 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dobey@ximian.com Wed Jun 5 19:57:05 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 05 Jun 2002 14:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] Default browser In-Reply-To: <1023293449.27775.70.camel@hawkeye> References: <1023293449.27775.70.camel@hawkeye> Message-ID: <1023303425.588.0.camel@beatbox> You can use the Default Applications capplet or the URL Handlers capplet, both of which are in the control-center. -- dobey On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 12:10, Carl Parrish wrote: How do I set Mozilla to be my default browser in evolution? Right now whenever I click on a link I Galeon opens up. Carl P. _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dobey@ximian.com Wed Jun 5 19:58:47 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 05 Jun 2002 14:58:47 -0400 Subject: [Users] Galeon losing settings In-Reply-To: <1023293630.27773.74.camel@hawkeye> References: <1023293630.27773.74.camel@hawkeye> Message-ID: <1023303527.588.3.camel@beatbox> Are you using GNOME 2 also? This is a common problem when running both gnome 1 applications and gnome 2 applications. The gconf daemons get in a fit with each other, and can cause issues like this. However, if gconfd-2 is the one running, everything should work fine (as I am told by it's author). It's not really fighting with mozilla, since they use different directories effectively. -- dobey On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 12:13, Carl Parrish wrote: Whenever I shutdown then relaunch Galeon *any* prefs I set are now lost. such as my homepage and proxy server. Any idea what's going on here? My guess right now is that somehow its fighting with mozilla over the prefs if so does anyone know how to stop it? I'm running Galeon 1.2.0 Carl Parrish _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From robert.goshko@axis-dev.com Wed Jun 5 21:52:51 2002 From: robert.goshko@axis-dev.com (Robert Goshko) Date: 05 Jun 2002 14:52:51 -0600 Subject: [Users] Default browser In-Reply-To: <1023293449.27775.70.camel@hawkeye> References: <1023293449.27775.70.camel@hawkeye> Message-ID: <1023310371.3209.1.camel@axis15.private.axis-dev.com> --=-XF+3VPw32SGKeLek5ngy Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 10:10, Carl Parrish wrote: > How do I set Mozilla to be my default browser in evolution? Right now > whenever I click on a link I Galeon opens up.=20 Open up the Gnome Control Center (gnomecc on the command line will do), from the Main, select Default Applications and pick your browser of choice. --=20 ...Rob =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.com/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Registered Linux User #260513 =20 2:51pm up 8:32, 2 users, load average: 1.58, 1.23, 1.18 --=-XF+3VPw32SGKeLek5ngy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: got privacy? We Do - http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQA8/noiOPQK/00PPkERAoGvAKDBdbdLTSd+Ogv61NmGLUZJM4FgBQCgzJto zm3GUsdaE3ziKK0DdAdxo7g= =3vJy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-XF+3VPw32SGKeLek5ngy-- From shaun@dog-berry.net Wed Jun 5 22:16:45 2002 From: shaun@dog-berry.net (Shaun) Date: 05 Jun 2002 17:16:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] gnome2-preview with apt In-Reply-To: References: <1022225810.3164.2.camel@debian> Message-ID: <1023311808.12014.22.camel@black> On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 03:52, Josef Oswald wrote: > Hi :-) > Shaun writes: > > > Hi all > > > > Is there a debian apt source for the gnome2 packages? I spotted this > > channel on red-carpet (mandrake) earlier, but red-carpet has refused to > > work on my last 3 Debian Woody (testing) installs (segfaults, no clues), > > so I rely on apt-get. > > the iximian packages are for potato only not for sid. > > But if you want you could try garnome > http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ > > Best is if you use a second user so that Gnome 2 will not system-wide > installed. Let me know if you got it installed as I had some > problems.. > > > > > TIA, Shaun > > > > -- > LinuxUser aka Josef Oswald linux.os@chello.at > registered-linux-user # 134.818 at http://counter.li.org > > The box said Windows, NT or better, so I installed Linux :-) > > Sorry for the late reply, I've spent the last two weeks stranded on an older machine that simply didn't have space for large builds. But the parts arrived and I'm back ... Last night I installed Debian Woody (testing), and this morning I built garnome(-0.10.1) without a problem. As you said you had problems, here's the exact steps I took unpacked the tarball into /opt (as $HOME just doesn't have the space) edited /opt/garnome-0.10.1/gar.conf.mk so that "prefix ?= /opt/garnome-0.10.1" (once again, because $HOME doesn't have the space) apt-get update && apt-get install libpng2-dev libjpeg-dev libtiff-dev xlibs-dev libpopt-dev libgdbmg1-dev libgmp3-dev texinfo libgnome-dev libdb3-dev libbz2-dev zlib1g-dev python2.2 python2.2-xml sp sgml-data docbook-xml docbook-xsl libncurses5-dev (as per the README) cd /opt/garnome-0.10.1/meta/gnome-desktop make .. and went back to sleep. My ~/.xsession contains: PATH=/opt/garnome-0.10.1/bin:$PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/garnome-0.10.1/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH GDK_USE_XFT=1 export PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH GDK_USE_XFT exec /opt/garnome-0.10.1/bin/gnome-session and gnome2 works without complaint (although the font leaves a little to be desired). HTH, Shaun ( currently make'ing in /opt/garnome-0.10.1/meta/gnome-fifth-toe ) From mailinglisten00@hentges.net Wed Jun 5 23:55:20 2002 From: mailinglisten00@hentges.net (Matthias Hentges) Date: 06 Jun 2002 00:55:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] Evolution Back Up In-Reply-To: <1023297784.802.4.camel@linux> References: <1023297784.802.4.camel@linux> Message-ID: <1023317289.13402.19.camel@mhcln01> Am Mit, 2002-06-05 um 19.23 schrieb Russ Palmeri: > What files/ folders should I back up to save a copy of my evo. files? > Should it be the whole Evolution folder in my home directory?? Yes, /home/$USER/evolution does the trick. -- Matthias Hentges [www.hentges.net] From mildness@earthlink.net Thu Jun 6 00:55:04 2002 From: mildness@earthlink.net (bill burton) Date: 05 Jun 2002 18:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Fwd: Cagle Cartoon: Still more ENVIRONMENT Cartoons!] Message-ID: <1023321306.1568.3.camel@linux> --=-Rkxoo/Lb6lLnxRd6l0V0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Graphincs emmbedded in notes from slate.com (a ms site) do not appear in Netscape mail or Evolution. Think this is by design on the part of MS? Beal --=-Rkxoo/Lb6lLnxRd6l0V0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Cagle Cartoon: Still more ENVIRONMENT Cartoons! 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 This email was sent to: mildness@earthlink.net ------=_NextPart_000_54030_01C2070C.EFCBAD60-- --=-Rkxoo/Lb6lLnxRd6l0V0-- From mailinglisten00@hentges.net Thu Jun 6 01:01:56 2002 From: mailinglisten00@hentges.net (Matthias Hentges) Date: 06 Jun 2002 02:01:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Fwd: Cagle Cartoon: Still more ENVIRONMENT Cartoons!] In-Reply-To: <1023321306.1568.3.camel@linux> References: <1023321306.1568.3.camel@linux> Message-ID: <1023321717.15088.15.camel@mhcln01> Am Don, 2002-06-06 um 01.55 schrieb bill burton: > Graphincs emmbedded in notes from slate.com (a ms site) do not appear in > Netscape mail or Evolution. Think this is by design on the part of MS? > Evo does not download pictured in HTML mails as default. This can be changed in the preferences. -- Matthias Hentges [www.hentges.net] "Thats what sucks about windows, you can't say that you rooted some one. Saying "I AMINISTRATORED YOU!" just doesnt sound cool." (Found on slashdot.org) From dobey@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 01:43:51 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 05 Jun 2002 20:43:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Fwd: Cagle Cartoon: Still more ENVIRONMENT Cartoons!] In-Reply-To: <1023321306.1568.3.camel@linux> References: <1023321306.1568.3.camel@linux> Message-ID: <1023324231.1752.5.camel@beatbox> The problem is that the email escapes the periods in the urls to be %2E, where they should not be escaped at all. If you save it to disk, and run `sed -e "s#%2E#.#" < filename > newfilename`, and then open newfilename in a browser, you should see the images. However, this is still a bug in the email magazine that we will have to work around. Thanks. -- dobey On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 19:55, bill burton wrote: Graphincs emmbedded in notes from slate.com (a ms site) do not appear in Netscape mail or Evolution. Think this is by design on the part of MS? Beal From paolo@casarini.org Thu Jun 6 11:31:01 2002 From: paolo@casarini.org (Paolo Casarini) Date: 06 Jun 2002 12:31:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] Upgrade RH 7.1 to RH 7.3 Message-ID: <1023359461.9080.18.camel@pluter> Hi, I've installed Ximin GNOME, on my RH 7.1 Linux Box and now I have to upgrade to the new RH 7.3 release. In RH 7.3 release notes, RH folks suggest to uninstall Ximian GNOME, upgrade the rh system and then reinstall Ximin GNOME. Is there an alternative way? Thanx, paolo. -- Paolo Casarini - paolo@casarini.org From phands@cadence.com Thu Jun 6 12:15:02 2002 From: phands@cadence.com (Paul Hands) Date: 06 Jun 2002 12:15:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] attachment file association In-Reply-To: <1023303402.7375.4.camel@eurico> References: <1023303402.7375.4.camel@eurico> Message-ID: <1023362103.30891.28.camel@pc-phands> --=-KKgvvFesoVWc1s5qK2h0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's easy - in evolution open a new mail window. Now go to the "Edit" menu and select the bottom option - "Properties". This opens the gnome control center. One of the options in there is file types and associations. It is simple from there. HTH Paul On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 19:56, Ramon Campos-Olivas wrote: Dear ALL, I am trying to configure the little box that appears with an attachment when receiving mail in XIMIAN EVOLUTION, so that upon right click it shows the preferred application to open the attachment, according to the extension of the attached file (eg. use staroffice to open *.doc files). Thank you very much beforehand for your help, Ramon -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ramon Campos-Olivas. NMR Department Structural and Computational Biology Program Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Oncologicas C. Melchor Fernandez Almagro, 3. Madrid E-28029.Spain Tel:+34-91-2246900/6983(direct). Fax:+34-91-2246976 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users --=-KKgvvFesoVWc1s5qK2h0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 [Users] attachment file association It's easy - in evolution open a new mail window. Now go to the "Edit" menu and select the bottom option - "Properties".  This opens the gnome control center.  One of the options in there is file types and associations.  It is simple from there.

HTH

Paul

On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 19:56, Ramon Campos-Olivas wrote:
Dear ALL,

I am trying to configure the little box that appears with an attachment
when receiving mail in XIMIAN EVOLUTION, so that upon right
click it shows the preferred application to open the attachment,
according to the extension of the attached
file (eg. use staroffice to open *.doc files).

Thank you very much beforehand for your help,

Ramon
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Ramon Campos-Olivas.                   NMR Department
 Structural   and    Computational   Biology   Program
 Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Oncologicas
 C. Melchor Fernandez Almagro, 3. Madrid E-28029.Spain
 Tel:+34-91-2246900/6983(direct).   Fax:+34-91-2246976
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--=-KKgvvFesoVWc1s5qK2h0-- From dadadom@web.de Thu Jun 6 12:24:49 2002 From: dadadom@web.de (Dominik Sandjaja) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:24:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] Upgrade RH 7.1 to RH 7.3 Message-ID: <200206061124.g56BOnX31285@mailgate5.cinetic.de> Hi, Paolo Casarini schrieb am 06.06.02 12:38:06: > I've installed Ximin GNOME, on my RH 7.1 Linux Box and now I have to > upgrade to the new RH 7.3 release. In RH 7.3 release notes, RH folks > suggest to uninstall Ximian GNOME, upgrade the rh system and then > reinstall Ximin GNOME. Is there an alternative way? yesterday, I upgraded RH 7.2 with Ximian to 7.3 without unistalling any Ximian-Software, everything without problems. Only problem at the moment is RedCarpet 'cause for some packages it can't find any sources. Perhaps due to overload of the servers. But apart from that there are no problems. Bye Dominik ______________________________________________________________________________ FreeMail in der Premiumversion! Mit mehr Speicher, mehr Leistung, mehr Erlebnis und mehr Prmie. Jetzt unter http://club.web.de/?mc=021105 From tpibil@comcast.net Thu Jun 6 12:48:12 2002 From: tpibil@comcast.net (Ted Pibil) Date: 06 Jun 2002 07:48:12 -0400 Subject: [Users] Fresh RH 7.3 install w/ Ximian CD for RH7.2 Message-ID: <1023364093.25983.2.camel@vega.assurenet.com> I am trying to install my copy of the Ximian for RH 7.2 CD on a fresh RH 7.3 install. However, when the CD autorun starts it says it does not support this version. Is there something I can change to do the install, or do I need to download a whole new version of Ximian? From nevin@jhu.edu Thu Jun 6 13:33:23 2002 From: nevin@jhu.edu (Nevin Kapur) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:33:23 -0400 Subject: [Users] Re: Upgrade RH 7.1 to RH 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1023359461.9080.18.camel@pluter> (Paolo Casarini's message of "Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:31:01 +0200") References: <1023359461.9080.18.camel@pluter> Message-ID: Paolo Casarini writes: > I've installed Ximin GNOME, on my RH 7.1 Linux Box and now I have to > upgrade to the new RH 7.3 release. In RH 7.3 release notes, RH folks > suggest to uninstall Ximian GNOME, upgrade the rh system and then > reinstall Ximin GNOME. Is there an alternative way? I've successfully upgraded from 7.1 to 7.2 and from 7.2 to 7.3 without uninstalling Ximian. In both cases, I upgraded and immediately ran Ximian's installation program following the upgrade. There is a warning during the RH upgrade saying that having third-party packages can lead to instabilities but I haven't seen them. -Nevin From rscrawford@mossroot.com Thu Jun 6 14:28:48 2002 From: rscrawford@mossroot.com (Richard Crawford) Date: 06 Jun 2002 06:28:48 -0700 Subject: [Users] Re: Upgrade RH 7.1 to RH 7.3 In-Reply-To: References: <1023359461.9080.18.camel@pluter> Message-ID: <1023370128.6268.62.camel@mossroot> On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 05:33, Nevin Kapur wrote: > I've successfully upgraded from 7.1 to 7.2 and from 7.2 to 7.3 without > uninstalling Ximian. In both cases, I upgraded and immediately ran > Ximian's installation program following the upgrade. There is a > warning during the RH upgrade saying that having third-party packages > can lead to instabilities but I haven't seen them. Heck, I've repaired my system a time or two just by sticking my old Rh7.2 installation disks back in my CD-ROM drive and clicking on "upgrade". The same message pops up. The same instabilities fail to appear. > > -Nevin > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford mailto:rscrawford@mossroot.com http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Yahoo!: rscrawford MSN: underpope@hotmail.com "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery vi vi vi - the editor of the beast From lists@rickbestany.net Thu Jun 6 14:40:36 2002 From: lists@rickbestany.net (Rick Bestany) Date: 06 Jun 2002 09:40:36 -0400 Subject: [Users] New system Message-ID: <1023370837.4386.30.camel@rickbox.rickbestany.net> Hi, I would like to upgrade from my "play" Linux system to a newer, more powerful machine, and I would like to keep all of my current Evolution settings (filters, accounts, folders, etc.). If I copy all of the folders in the 'Evolution' folder, will this work, or is there something else I need to do? Thanks, Rick Bestany Baltimore MD From iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us Thu Jun 6 15:53:25 2002 From: iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us (Isaac Ordonez) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 07:53:25 -0700 Subject: [Users] Evlution wirdness Message-ID: <200206060753.AA17695096@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> I installed YDL 2.2 and Red Carpet shortly after that. I have been updating only from Red Carpet all the packages for my system . Now out of the blue Evolution 1.05 has decided it doesnt want to work. When I run evolution it comes up with a message: "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database not found" and in the shell it gives the error: "evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: (IDL:COBRA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)" I've searched around on groups.google.com and have found that this usually is a problem with oaf. removed the oaf packages and still, not change. I've been uninstalling everything I can think of that relates to evolution and reinstalling (rpms are a pain, you remove a package and all of the sudden your removing 20 because of dependances) does anyone have an Idea on this one? Thanks. oh and by the way my oaf version is 0.6.10 ximian. I just noticed that Nautalis decided not to work also. weird. I think I might ditch RPMs and compile everything by hand. makes life easier... ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at marin.marin.k12.ca.us From mdf@foster.cc Thu Jun 6 16:08:12 2002 From: mdf@foster.cc (Mark Foster) Date: 06 Jun 2002 08:08:12 -0700 Subject: [Users] Upgrade RH 7.1 to RH 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1023359461.9080.18.camel@pluter> References: <1023359461.9080.18.camel@pluter> Message-ID: <1023376094.2681.3.camel@turing.foster.cc> Actually the release notes list 2 other alternative ways, so you might want to read the WHOLE document. On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 03:31, Paolo Casarini wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed Ximin GNOME, on my RH 7.1 Linux Box and now I have to > upgrade to the new RH 7.3 release. In RH 7.3 release notes, RH folks > suggest to uninstall Ximian GNOME, upgrade the rh system and then > reinstall Ximin GNOME. Is there an alternative way? > > Thanx, > paolo. > -- > Paolo Casarini - paolo@casarini.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From ian@maul.deepsky.com Thu Jun 6 16:25:52 2002 From: ian@maul.deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:25:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] Evlution wirdness In-Reply-To: <200206060753.AA17695096@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Isaac Ordonez wrote: > I installed YDL 2.2 and Red Carpet shortly after that. I have been updating only from Red Carpet all the packages for my system . Now out of the blue Evolution 1.05 has decided it doesnt want to work. When I run evolution it comes up with a message: "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database not found" and in the shell it gives the error: > "evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: (IDL:COBRA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)" > > I've searched around on groups.google.com and have found that this usually is a problem with oaf. removed the oaf packages and still, not change. I've been uninstalling everything I can think of that relates to evolution and reinstalling (rpms are a pain, you remove a package and all of the sudden your removing 20 because of dependances) does anyone have an Idea on this one? Thanks. Yes, but the solution wasn't to remove those packages but to, as root, run oaf-slay which would have cleared up the problem for you. Ximian has a publically accessible "knowledge base" which is worth consulting in situations such as this. Best, Ian From chris.cullum@uprizer.com Thu Jun 6 16:30:16 2002 From: chris.cullum@uprizer.com (Chris Cullum) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:30:16 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla 1.0 Message-ID: <3AC3591971F79549805FE05B8D041697D386F8@STR1VEXC003.CTHES.COM> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20D6F.0F21337C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does ximian have a guess-timate of when they will be upgrading to Mozilla 1.0? =20 =20 Christopher M.W. Cullum ccullum@uprizer.com =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20D6F.0F21337C Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C20D6F.0F21337C-- From adunstan@sighouse.com Thu Jun 6 16:30:22 2002 From: adunstan@sighouse.com (Andy Dunstan) Date: 06 Jun 2002 08:30:22 -0700 Subject: [Users] An e-mail virus? Message-ID: <1023377422.26485.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-+qx1Kdl8hPaT31isjGmA Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last night I received a reply from our company president to an e-mail I sent him at 5:24 PM yesterday. Except that I didn't send him an e-mail yesterday. I looked in my Evolution Sent folder, and there were no e-mails listed after 4 PM yesterday, which is the time our company closes for the day. I can only guess this is the result of a virus? I have been under the, perhaps uninformed/naive impression that Linux/Evolution are not vulnerable to such viruses. Are they? If so, is there something I need to do about this? I have pasted the HTML source code below in case it helps determine the source of this problem. Thanks for any help! Andy Dunstan Camarillo, CA In-Reply-To: <200206060024.g560ORd15964@mail.sighouse.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Status: X-Evolution-Source: pop://adunstan@4.3.217.35/inbox -----Original Message----- From: adunstan [mailto:adunstan@sighouse.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:24 PM To: kmorrison@sighouse.com Subject: Language ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C20CC8.144D54C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C20CC8.144D54C0-- --=-+qx1Kdl8hPaT31isjGmA Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Last night I received a reply from our company president to an e-mail I sent him at 5:24 PM yesterday. Except that I didn't send him an e-mail yesterday. I looked in my Evolution Sent folder, and there were no e-mails listed after 4 PM yesterday, which is the time our company closes for the day. I can only guess this is the result of a virus? I have been under the, perhaps uninformed/naive impression that Linux/Evolution are not vulnerable to such viruses. Are they? If so, is there something I need to do about this? I have pasted the HTML source code below in case it helps determine the source of this problem. Thanks for any help!

Andy Dunstan
Camarillo, CA


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--=-+qx1Kdl8hPaT31isjGmA-- From iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us Thu Jun 6 16:24:39 2002 From: iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us (Isaac Ordonez) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 08:24:39 -0700 Subject: [Users] Evlution wirdness Message-ID: <200206060824.AA34537900@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> yes, i found the knowledge base, searched through it. I did find the oaf-slay command but it did nothig for me. I've been poking around and have come up with nothing. as of now I'm removing all the gtk/oaf/bonbo packages redcarpet installed and going back to what was working with YDL 2.2 hopeful it wont come down to a format. Any other ideas before I wipe it? Isaac ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Ian Firla Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:25:52 -0400 (EDT) > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Isaac Ordonez wrote: > >> I installed YDL 2.2 and Red Carpet shortly after that. I have been updating only from Red Carpet all the packages for my system . Now out of the blue Evolution 1.05 has decided it doesnt want to work. When I run evolution it comes up with a message: "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database not found" and in the shell it gives the error: >> "evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: (IDL:COBRA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)" >> >> I've searched around on groups.google.com and have found that this usually is a problem with oaf. removed the oaf packages and still, not change. I've been uninstalling everything I can think of that relates to evolution and reinstalling (rpms are a pain, you remove a package and all of the sudden your removing 20 because of dependances) does anyone have an Idea on this one? Thanks. > >Yes, but the solution wasn't to remove those packages but to, as root, run >oaf-slay which would have cleared up the problem for you. > >Ximian has a publically accessible "knowledge base" which is worth >consulting in situations such as this. > >Best, > >Ian > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at marin.marin.k12.ca.us From brissing@vexcel.com Thu Jun 6 16:46:27 2002 From: brissing@vexcel.com (Dean Brissinger) Date: 06 Jun 2002 09:46:27 -0600 Subject: [Users] OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 Message-ID: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> Has anyone tried installing OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 using red carpet? It wants to uninstall half of Ximian Gnome on my system (including evolution, and some libs needed for Gnome itself). I was wondering if there is a known way to doing this install safely. From dill@umbi.umd.edu Thu Jun 6 16:53:33 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:53:33 -0400 Subject: [Users] An e-mail virus? In-Reply-To: <1023377422.26485.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023377422.26485.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023378819.1619.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> My bet is that the virus was really sent from someone else and your e-mail address was forged. There are a few worms, like variations on W32.Klez, that work that way. If you could look at the full message headers of the message that your boss received, you might be able to work out what IP address the message was really sent from. It could be anyone who has your e-mail address in his/her address book, or possibly just an e-mail from you in one of their folders. Most likely, he or she uses Outlook Express for e-mail. On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:30, Andy Dunstan wrote: > Last night I received a reply from our company president to an e-mail > I sent him at 5:24 PM yesterday. Except that I didn't send him an > e-mail yesterday. I looked in my Evolution Sent folder, and there were > no e-mails listed after 4 PM yesterday, which is the time our company > closes for the day. I can only guess this is the result of a virus? I > have been under the, perhaps uninformed/naive impression that > Linux/Evolution are not vulnerable to such viruses. Are they? If so, > is there something I need to do about this? I have pasted the HTML > source code below in case it helps determine the source of this > problem. Thanks for any help! > > Andy Dunstan > Camarillo, CA > > > In-Reply-To: <200206060024.g560ORd15964@mail.sighouse.com> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > Status: > X-Evolution-Source: pop://adunstan@4.3.217.35/inbox > > -----Original Message----- > From: adunstan [mailto:adunstan@sighouse.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:24 PM > To: kmorrison@sighouse.com > Subject: Language > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C20CC8.144D54C0 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"= > > > > >
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C20CC8.144D54C0-- -- "Jonathan F. Dill" (dill@umbi.umd.edu) UMBI CARB IT Coordinator Experimental Support Site http://concept.umbi.umd.edu From mtgordon@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 16:55:27 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:55:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 In-Reply-To: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> References: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> Message-ID: <1023378953.10959.0.camel@metric> I've gotten it installed without any problems. I suspect either a buggy version of Red Carpet or a wonky rpm database. -Mark Gordon On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:46, Dean Brissinger wrote: > Has anyone tried installing OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 using red > carpet? It wants to uninstall half of Ximian Gnome on my system > (including evolution, and some libs needed for Gnome itself). I was > wondering if there is a known way to doing this install safely. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From rscrawford@mossroot.com Thu Jun 6 17:00:35 2002 From: rscrawford@mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:00:35 -0700 Subject: [Users] An e-mail virus? In-Reply-To: <1023377422.26485.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023377422.26485.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20020606160035.GA11858@mossroot> Linux/Evolution are indeed immune to this virus. It sounds to me like someone else who has you in their Windows address book has been infected with the Klez virus, which can send messages from an infected computer using the address of someone in the address book as the "from" address. Your best bet is to have your boss trace back the e-mail to its source host, if possible, and then tell that person to clean their machine. :) But once again, Linux/Evolution are immune to this sort of virus. On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 08:30:22AM -0700, Andy Dunstan wrote: > Last night I received a reply from our company president to an e-mail I > sent him at 5:24 PM yesterday. Except that I didn't send him an e-mail > yesterday. I looked in my Evolution Sent folder, and there were no > e-mails listed after 4 PM yesterday, which is the time our company > closes for the day. I can only guess this is the result of a virus? I > have been under the, perhaps uninformed/naive impression that > Linux/Evolution are not vulnerable to such viruses. Are they? If so, is > there something I need to do about this? I have pasted the HTML source > code below in case it helps determine the source of this problem. Thanks > for any help! > > Andy Dunstan -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford mailto:rscrawford@mossroot.com http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Yahoo!: rscrawford MSN: underpope@hotmail.com "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery vi vi vi - the editor of the beast From ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com Thu Jun 6 17:15:01 2002 From: ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com (Thomas Spuhler) Date: 06 Jun 2002 09:15:01 -0700 Subject: [Users] An e-mail virus? In-Reply-To: <1023377422.26485.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023377422.26485.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023380122.3159.22.camel@international.tusonix.com> --=-iZxB+mIglIBcLApIbNrg Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable don't be alarmed. It happened to my as well (not with the president). What probably happened is that a somebody who uses Outlook on a MS OS is having your and your presidents e-mail addresses in their addressbook. He has a virus and it sends an e-mail to your president and uses your address in the sender field Tom Spuhler On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 08:30, Andy Dunstan wrote: > Last night I received a reply from our company president to an e-mail I > sent him at 5:24 PM yesterday. Except that I didn't send him an e-mail > yesterday. I looked in my Evolution Sent folder, and there were no > e-mails listed after 4 PM yesterday, which is the time our company > closes for the day. I can only guess this is the result of a virus? I > have been under the, perhaps uninformed/naive impression that > Linux/Evolution are not vulnerable to such viruses. Are they? If so, is > there something I need to do about this? I have pasted the HTML source > code below in case it helps determine the source of this problem. Thanks > for any help! >=20 > Andy Dunstan > Camarillo, CA >=20 >=20 > In-Reply-To: <200206060024.g560ORd15964@mail.sighouse.com> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > Status: =20 > X-Evolution-Source: pop://adunstan@4.3.217.35/inbox >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: adunstan [mailto:adunstan@sighouse.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:24 PM > To: kmorrison@sighouse.com > Subject: Language >=20 >=20 > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0005_01C20CC8.144D54C0 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > > > charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"=3D > > > > >
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>=20 > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0005_01C20CC8.144D54C0-- >=20 --=-iZxB+mIglIBcLApIbNrg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8/4qFRNTJyxguVFsRAr/QAJ0W4nGv6JarD5m/2lWadkFV7NBUNgCeIEBT Ef4+zqRmZqZ7AylXQfNToAY= =uWSj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-iZxB+mIglIBcLApIbNrg-- From dill@umbi.umd.edu Thu Jun 6 17:15:19 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 06 Jun 2002 12:15:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] redcarpet & RH 7.3 dep problems Message-ID: <1023380122.1617.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> This may turn out to be a Red Hat 7.3 problem rather than Ximian, but just in case someone already knows what the problem is... When I "Verify" packages in red-carpet under Red Hat 7.3, it complains about various perl dependency problems that do not appear to really exist, e.g. perl-5.6.1-34.99.6 is installed, but it complains that >=perl-5.00503 is required. For example, trying to apply update to perl-Digest-MD5, this is what I get: Upgrading perl-Digest-MD5-2.16-15 => perl-Digest-MD5-2.20-1[Red Hat Linux 7.3] There are no installable providers of >=perl-5.00503 for perl-Digest-MD5-2.20-1[Red Hat Linux 7.3] Can't uninstall the to-be-installed package perl-Digest-MD5-2.20-1 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid. Interestingly, all of the affected perl packages are related to Omni-foomatic and foomatic. It looks odd to me that it doesn't say "perl >= 5.00503" which is the way I think it ought to be, but ">=perl-5.00503" so I wonder if the dependencies were in the wrong format in the .spec file that was used to build the packages. Hmm. Maybe I should look at the .src.rpm. -- "Jonathan F. Dill" (dill@umbi.umd.edu) UMBI CARB IT Coordinator Experimental Support Site http://concept.umbi.umd.edu From rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz Thu Jun 6 17:15:35 2002 From: rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz (Richard Barrington) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:15:35 +1200 Subject: [Users] An e-mail virus? Message-ID: <3cff8aa7.24a1.0@clear.net.nz> Check the *full* source of your bosses email. It should say if evolution sent it originally. Linux isn't *completely* immune from virii, but nothing like the Windows+Outlook fiasco has happened yet, AFAIK. Chances are a) someone spoofed your address b) a virus spoofed your address c) someone else logged onto you machine after hours (and removed the sent message). From mtgordon@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 17:49:48 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 06 Jun 2002 12:49:48 -0400 Subject: [Users] redcarpet & RH 7.3 dep problems In-Reply-To: <1023380122.1617.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023380122.1617.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023382214.11038.2.camel@metric> We're working on this. -Mark Gordon On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 12:15, Jonathan F. Dill wrote: > This may turn out to be a Red Hat 7.3 problem rather than Ximian, but > just in case someone already knows what the problem is... > > When I "Verify" packages in red-carpet under Red Hat 7.3, it complains > about various perl dependency problems that do not appear to really > exist, e.g. perl-5.6.1-34.99.6 is installed, but it complains that > >=perl-5.00503 is required. For example, trying to apply update to > perl-Digest-MD5, this is what I get: > > Upgrading perl-Digest-MD5-2.16-15 => perl-Digest-MD5-2.20-1[Red Hat > Linux 7.3] > There are no installable providers of >=perl-5.00503 for > perl-Digest-MD5-2.20-1[Red Hat Linux 7.3] > Can't uninstall the to-be-installed package perl-Digest-MD5-2.20-1 > Marking this resolution attempt as invalid. > > Interestingly, all of the affected perl packages are related to > Omni-foomatic and foomatic. > > It looks odd to me that it doesn't say "perl >= 5.00503" which is the > way I think it ought to be, but ">=perl-5.00503" so I wonder if the > dependencies were in the wrong format in the .spec file that was used to > build the packages. Hmm. Maybe I should look at the .src.rpm. > > -- > "Jonathan F. Dill" (dill@umbi.umd.edu) > UMBI CARB IT Coordinator > Experimental Support Site http://concept.umbi.umd.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dobey@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 18:32:10 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 06 Jun 2002 13:32:10 -0400 Subject: [Users] OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 In-Reply-To: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> References: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> Message-ID: <1023384730.15830.0.camel@beatbox> What version of Red Carpet? -- dobey On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:46, Dean Brissinger wrote: Has anyone tried installing OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 using red carpet? It wants to uninstall half of Ximian Gnome on my system (including evolution, and some libs needed for Gnome itself). I was wondering if there is a known way to doing this install safely. _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dobey@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 18:37:08 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 06 Jun 2002 13:37:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evlution wirdness In-Reply-To: <200206060824.AA34537900@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> References: <200206060824.AA34537900@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> Message-ID: <1023385028.15834.3.camel@beatbox> Consequently, I was just working with the YDL guys to update evo for the next version of YDL. He was having this exact same problem. It turns out to be some weird hardware issue. It worked fine on another machine, same binaries. It is also working perfectly fine on my iBook. Might you have a B&W G3? :) -- dobey On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:24, Isaac Ordonez wrote: yes, i found the knowledge base, searched through it. I did find the oaf-slay command but it did nothig for me. I've been poking around and have come up with nothing. as of now I'm removing all the gtk/oaf/bonbo packages redcarpet installed and going back to what was working with YDL 2.2 hopeful it wont come down to a format. Any other ideas before I wipe it? Isaac ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Ian Firla Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:25:52 -0400 (EDT) > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Isaac Ordonez wrote: > >> I installed YDL 2.2 and Red Carpet shortly after that. I have been updating only from Red Carpet all the packages for my system . Now out of the blue Evolution 1.05 has decided it doesnt want to work. When I run evolution it comes up with a message: "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database not found" and in the shell it gives the error: >> "evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: (IDL:COBRA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)" >> >> I've searched around on groups.google.com and have found that this usually is a problem with oaf. removed the oaf packages and still, not change. I've been uninstalling everything I can think of that relates to evolution and reinstalling (rpms are a pain, you remove a package and all of the sudden your removing 20 because of dependances) does anyone have an Idea on this one? Thanks. > >Yes, but the solution wasn't to remove those packages but to, as root, run >oaf-slay which would have cleared up the problem for you. > >Ximian has a publically accessible "knowledge base" which is worth >consulting in situations such as this. > >Best, > >Ian > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at marin.marin.k12.ca.us _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us Thu Jun 6 18:32:30 2002 From: iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us (Isaac Ordonez) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:32:30 -0700 Subject: [Users] Evlution wirdness Message-ID: <200206061032.AA24838534@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> Yeah, it's a really weird issue, I've just recently FORMATTED the Harddisk, re installed YDL, no work. after formatting again and installig Mandrake 8.2 Nautalis pops up with the same error message. but I'm on a iMac DV with YDL and it's still working. strange no? Isaac ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Rodney Dawes Date: 06 Jun 2002 13:37:08 -0400 >Consequently, I was just working with the YDL guys to update evo for >the next version of YDL. He was having this exact same problem. It >turns out to be some weird hardware issue. It worked fine on another >machine, same binaries. It is also working perfectly fine on my iBook. >Might you have a B&W G3? :) > >-- dobey > >On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:24, Isaac Ordonez wrote: > yes, i found the knowledge base, searched through it. I did find the oaf-slay command but it did nothig for me. I've been poking around and have come up with nothing. as of now I'm removing all the gtk/oaf/bonbo packages redcarpet installed and going back to what was working with YDL 2.2 hopeful it wont come down to a format. > > Any other ideas before I wipe it? > > Isaac > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Ian Firla > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:25:52 -0400 (EDT) > > > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Isaac Ordonez wrote: > > > >> I installed YDL 2.2 and Red Carpet shortly after that. I have been updating only from Red Carpet all the packages for my system . Now out of the blue Evolution 1.05 has decided it doesnt want to work. When I run evolution it comes up with a message: "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database not found" and in the shell it gives the error: > >> "evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: (IDL:COBRA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)" > >> > >> I've searched around on groups.google.com and have found that this usually is a problem with oaf. removed the oaf packages and still, not change. I've been uninstalling everything I can think of that relates to evolution and reinstalling (rpms are a pain, you remove a package and all of the sudden your removing 20 because of dependances) does anyone have an Idea on this one? Thanks. > > > >Yes, but the solution wasn't to remove those packages but to, as root, run > >oaf-slay which would have cleared up the problem for you. > > > >Ximian has a publically accessible "knowledge base" which is worth > >consulting in situations such as this. > > > >Best, > > > >Ian > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at marin.marin.k12.ca.us > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at marin.marin.k12.ca.us From cparrish@icegallery.com Thu Jun 6 16:47:29 2002 From: cparrish@icegallery.com (Carl Parrish) Date: 06 Jun 2002 08:47:29 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mozilla 1.0 Message-ID: <1023378454.31624.5.camel@hawkeye> Is there a Ximian version of Mozilla 1.0 on RedCarpet yet? If not will it blow anything up if I just install the rpm from mozilla.org? Carl Parrish. From joe@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 18:53:40 2002 From: joe@ximian.com (Joe Shaw) Date: 06 Jun 2002 13:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1023378454.31624.5.camel@hawkeye> References: <1023378454.31624.5.camel@hawkeye> Message-ID: <1023386020.10582.6.camel@caedes> On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:47, Carl Parrish wrote: > Is there a Ximian version of Mozilla 1.0 on RedCarpet yet? If not will > it blow anything up if I just install the rpm from mozilla.org? Galeon and Nautilus's web view will stop working (and in fact, you should get dependency errors requiring you to remove those packages). We're gonna have 1.0 out shortly. Joe From mtgordon@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 18:53:48 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 06 Jun 2002 13:53:48 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1023378454.31624.5.camel@hawkeye> References: <1023378454.31624.5.camel@hawkeye> Message-ID: <1023386054.11082.5.camel@metric> Our Mozilla 1.0 packages are currently being tested (as well as updated galeon and nautilus) and should be out soon. Updating to the rpm from mozilla.org is likely to cause problems. -Mark Gordon On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:47, Carl Parrish wrote: > Is there a Ximian version of Mozilla 1.0 on RedCarpet yet? If not will > it blow anything up if I just install the rpm from mozilla.org? > > Carl Parrish. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From djs@uci.edu Thu Jun 6 19:28:22 2002 From: djs@uci.edu (Donald Saltarelli) Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:28:22 -0700 Subject: [Users] ldap support Message-ID: <1023388102.13918.822.camel@comput6.eng.uci.edu> Anybody else wish Ximian would take some code from Mozilla for 'while you type' ldap lookups in the To: field of the composer? Donald From judah@opusnet.com Thu Jun 6 20:02:06 2002 From: judah@opusnet.com (Aaron Baer) Date: 06 Jun 2002 12:02:06 -0700 Subject: [Users] OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 In-Reply-To: <1023378953.10959.0.camel@metric> References: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> <1023378953.10959.0.camel@metric> Message-ID: <1023390127.18329.36.camel@laptop> 250 point word score.. Great use of the word 'wonky' A- On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 08:55, Mark Gordon wrote: >. I suspect either a buggy > version of Red Carpet or a wonky rpm database. > > -Mark Gordon > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:46, Dean Brissinger wrote: > > Has anyone tried installing OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 using red > > carpet? -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ From iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us Thu Jun 6 20:27:16 2002 From: iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us (Isaac Ordonez) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:27:16 -0700 Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL Message-ID: <200206061227.AA33423780@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> looks like you've fallen to the same thing I have.. try opening up a terminal and typing "evolution" and you should get the same error message that I posted in my original. I've been trying to mess with it and see if I can find any fixes. talk about driving one nuts huh? oh well if I find anything I'll post it. Isaac ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Kevin Madrick Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 21:58:35 -0459 >I'm running YDL 2.1 on a TiBook, and I'm having a problem with evolution >1.05 . I'm getting a "config database not found" error. Is anyone else >having this? I've tried removing and re-installing evolution and no >dice. This is a fresh install, not an upgrade. > >Kevin Madrick > > >_______________________________________________ >Users maillist - Users@ximian.com >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at marin.marin.k12.ca.us From iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us Thu Jun 6 20:51:01 2002 From: iordonez@marin.marin.k12.ca.us (Isaac Ordonez) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:51:01 -0700 Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL.. fixed... Message-ID: <200206061251.AA28311926@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> ok, this drove me UP THE WALL but it seems that I hit something. I'm not sure if this is all necessary but here is an outline of what I've done so if any developers are watching they have an Idea. 1. Formatted drive and re installed YDL 2.2 (didnt fix anything) 2. Formatted drive and installed Mandrake PPC 8.2 (didnt fix anything) 3. Reset the PRAM (didn't do anything but mess up my clock bad i wish i had an ibook in 1903...) 4. Booted off a restore Cd and grabed the Date and time control panel off the network and set the date and time correctly (WORKED) I'm curious if anyone who is having this problem could check their date in linux (date command) if it's wrong change it if it's right try looking at what OS 9 says the date and time are. it could be the hardware clock is off by a few years. If that does not fix it try the PRAM and then the time. I'm pretty sure step 3 was useless but it might be necessary. Also an idea for any PPC distro (or PC for that matter) developers would be a simple way to set clock and keep it that way. (maybe another step to the installation which displays hwclock time and allows you to edit it and then saves edits to hwclock). I know one of the biggest pains in linux is keeping the damn clock set right. Isaac Ordoenz Technology Support Specialist II San Rafael City Schools ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at marin.marin.k12.ca.us From brissing@vexcel.com Thu Jun 6 21:49:03 2002 From: brissing@vexcel.com (Dean Brissinger) Date: 06 Jun 2002 14:49:03 -0600 Subject: [Users] OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 In-Reply-To: <1023384730.15830.0.camel@beatbox> References: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> <1023384730.15830.0.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <1023396543.28153.4.camel@binks.vexcel.com> I'm using 1.3. I've been upgrading my system though RedCarpet since Ximian supported 8.1. It tells me I have no updates available so I'm assuming everything is current. On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:32, Rodney Dawes wrote: > What version of Red Carpet? > > -- dobey > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:46, Dean Brissinger wrote: > Has anyone tried installing OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 using red > carpet? It wants to uninstall half of Ximian Gnome on my system > (including evolution, and some libs needed for Gnome itself). I was > wondering if there is a known way to doing this install safely. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From judah@opusnet.com Thu Jun 6 21:49:55 2002 From: judah@opusnet.com (Aaron Baer) Date: 06 Jun 2002 13:49:55 -0700 Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL.. fixed... In-Reply-To: <200206061251.AA28311926@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> References: <200206061251.AA28311926@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> Message-ID: <1023396595.20833.16.camel@laptop> Have you ever tried running ntpd? A nice network time daemon can make all of your time and date issues fade away.. A- On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 12:51, Isaac Ordonez wrote: I know one of the biggest pains in linux is keeping the damn clock set right. > -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ From mike@dvfmv.com Thu Jun 6 22:00:34 2002 From: mike@dvfmv.com (Mike Robinson) Date: 06 Jun 2002 14:00:34 -0700 Subject: [Users] Re: An e-mail virus? Message-ID: <1023397236.1418.72.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> FYI, I just saw this item the other day, from the SANS NewsBites: --3 June 2002 Simile is Cross-Platform Virus The Simile virus infects Portable Executable (PE) and ELF files on both Windows and Linux operating systems. The virus does not carry a malicious payload, although infected files could display messages on certain dates. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/06/03/1022982662974.html http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html Message: 6 Subject: Re: [Users] An e-mail virus? From: "Jonathan F. Dill" To: Andy Dunstan Cc: Ximian Users List Organization: UMBI CARB Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:53:33 -0400 My bet is that the virus was really sent from someone else and your e-mail address was forged. There are a few worms, like variations on W32.Klez, that work that way. If you could look at the full message headers of the message that your boss received, you might be able to work out what IP address the message was really sent from. It could be anyone who has your e-mail address in his/her address book, or possibly just an e-mail from you in one of their folders. Most likely, he or she uses Outlook Express for e-mail. On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:30, Andy Dunstan wrote: > Last night I received a reply from our company president to an e-mail > I sent him at 5:24 PM yesterday. Except that I didn't send him an > e-mail yesterday. I looked in my Evolution Sent folder, and there were > no e-mails listed after 4 PM yesterday, which is the time our company > closes for the day. I can only guess this is the result of a virus? I > have been under the, perhaps uninformed/naive impression that > Linux/Evolution are not vulnerable to such viruses. Are they? If so, > is there something I need to do about this? I have pasted the HTML > source code below in case it helps determine the source of this > problem. Thanks for any help! -- Mike Robinson System/Network Administrator, Draper Valley Farms mike@dvfmv.com 360-424-7947 From judah@opusnet.com Thu Jun 6 22:24:27 2002 From: judah@opusnet.com (Aaron Baer) Date: 06 Jun 2002 14:24:27 -0700 Subject: [Users] Re: An e-mail virus? In-Reply-To: <1023397236.1418.72.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> References: <1023397236.1418.72.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> Message-ID: <1023398668.21240.25.camel@laptop> The only way this will effect Linux binaries is if for some reason you are reading all of your email as root.. (Except any binaries owned by the user, ie. in their home directory, which means if infected by some weird chance the infection will be very isolated and not effect the entire environment) The chances of this effecting a Linux system are very very slim compared to it's effects in the Windows world. A- On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 14:00, Mike Robinson wrote: > FYI, I just saw this item the other day, from the SANS NewsBites: > > --3 June 2002 Simile is Cross-Platform Virus > The Simile virus infects Portable Executable (PE) and ELF files on > both Windows and Linux operating systems. The virus does not carry > a malicious payload, although infected files could display messages > on certain dates. > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/06/03/1022982662974.html > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html > -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ From dobey@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 22:33:28 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 06 Jun 2002 17:33:28 -0400 Subject: [Users] OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 In-Reply-To: <1023396543.28153.4.camel@binks.vexcel.com> References: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> <1023384730.15830.0.camel@beatbox> <1023396543.28153.4.camel@binks.vexcel.com> Message-ID: <1023399208.18730.0.camel@beatbox> What is the full version string? Ie, what does `rpm -q red-carpet` say? -- dobey On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 16:49, Dean Brissinger wrote: I'm using 1.3. I've been upgrading my system though RedCarpet since Ximian supported 8.1. It tells me I have no updates available so I'm assuming everything is current. On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:32, Rodney Dawes wrote: > What version of Red Carpet? > > -- dobey > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:46, Dean Brissinger wrote: > Has anyone tried installing OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 using red > carpet? It wants to uninstall half of Ximian Gnome on my system > (including evolution, and some libs needed for Gnome itself). I was > wondering if there is a known way to doing this install safely. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com Thu Jun 6 22:42:36 2002 From: ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com (Thomas Spuhler) Date: 06 Jun 2002 14:42:36 -0700 Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL.. fixed... In-Reply-To: <1023396595.20833.16.camel@laptop> References: <200206061251.AA28311926@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> <1023396595.20833.16.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1023399760.4214.20.camel@international.tusonix.com> --=-5ZLJkF0N2+aJIkMFudBa Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That indeed is a great program. Tom On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 13:49, Aaron Baer wrote: > Have you ever tried running ntpd? A nice network time daemon can make > all of your time and date issues fade away..=20 >=20 > A- >=20 > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 12:51, Isaac Ordonez wrote: > I know one of the biggest pains in linux is keeping the damn clock set r= ight. > >=20 > =20 > --=20 > ---- > Aaron Baer > judah@opusnet.com > http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 > --=-5ZLJkF0N2+aJIkMFudBa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8/9dMRNTJyxguVFsRAmn5AJ9dQQ/Ne2+D0LZHmIgO/FwH5PEMnACgl6gW oUZVljPZOYBtBXvP/LmLBVE= =j5SE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5ZLJkF0N2+aJIkMFudBa-- From dobey@ximian.com Thu Jun 6 22:38:22 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 06 Jun 2002 17:38:22 -0400 Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL In-Reply-To: <83DBCADB.4060200@bbn.com> References: <83DBCADB.4060200@bbn.com> Message-ID: <1023399502.18730.2.camel@beatbox> Heh. Please fix your clock. ;) -- dobey On Fri, 1904-01-01 at 21:57, Kevin Madrick wrote: I'm running YDL 2.1 on a TiBook, and I'm having a problem with evolution 1.05 . I'm getting a "config database not found" error. Is anyone else having this? I've tried removing and re-installing evolution and no dice. This is a fresh install, not an upgrade. Kevin Madrick _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From rscrawford@mossroot.com Thu Jun 6 22:46:14 2002 From: rscrawford@mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:46:14 -0700 Subject: [Users] Re: An e-mail virus? In-Reply-To: <1023397236.1418.72.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> References: <1023397236.1418.72.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> Message-ID: <20020606214614.GA14373@mossroot> The Simile virus is interesting, but mostly a proof of concept at this point. It hasn't actually been found in the wild... it was sent to the AV companies as a demonstration. Even so, it's unlikely that the Simile virus could possibly be spread through e-mail like Klez or any of the others. On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 02:00:34PM -0700, Mike Robinson wrote: > FYI, I just saw this item the other day, from the SANS NewsBites: > > --3 June 2002 Simile is Cross-Platform Virus > The Simile virus infects Portable Executable (PE) and ELF files on > both Windows and Linux operating systems. The virus does not carry > a malicious payload, although infected files could display messages > on certain dates. > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/06/03/1022982662974.html > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html > > Message: 6 > Subject: Re: [Users] An e-mail virus? > From: "Jonathan F. Dill" > To: Andy Dunstan > Cc: Ximian Users List > Organization: UMBI CARB > Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:53:33 -0400 > > My bet is that the virus was really sent from someone else and your > e-mail address was forged. There are a few worms, like variations > on > W32.Klez, that work that way. If you could look at the full message > headers of the message that your boss received, you might be able to > work out what IP address the message was really sent from. It could > be > anyone who has your e-mail address in his/her address book, or > possibly > just an e-mail from you in one of their folders. Most likely, he or > she > uses Outlook Express for e-mail. > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:30, Andy Dunstan wrote: > > Last night I received a reply from our company president to an > e-mail > > I sent him at 5:24 PM yesterday. Except that I didn't send him an > > e-mail yesterday. I looked in my Evolution Sent folder, and there > were > > no e-mails listed after 4 PM yesterday, which is the time our > company > > closes for the day. I can only guess this is the result of a > virus? I > > have been under the, perhaps uninformed/naive impression that > > Linux/Evolution are not vulnerable to such viruses. Are they? If > so, > > is there something I need to do about this? I have pasted the HTML > > source code below in case it helps determine the source of this > > problem. Thanks for any help! > -- > Mike Robinson > System/Network Administrator, Draper Valley Farms > mike@dvfmv.com 360-424-7947 > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford mailto:rscrawford@mossroot.com http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Yahoo!: rscrawford MSN: underpope@hotmail.com "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery vi vi vi - the editor of the beast From kmadrick@bbn.com Thu Jun 6 22:36:40 2002 From: kmadrick@bbn.com (Kevin Madrick) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:36:40 -0400 Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL References: <83DBCADB.4060200@bbn.com> <1023399502.18730.2.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <3CFFD5E8.7050409@bbn.com> Tell me about it. I ran ntpdate and it advanced the date to May 1934. It took a complete reset of the date to get it back to normal. I'm running ntp now, and it seems to be working. Kevin Rodney Dawes wrote: >Heh. Please fix your clock. ;) > >-- dobey > >On Fri, 1904-01-01 at 21:57, Kevin Madrick wrote: > I'm running YDL 2.1 on a TiBook, and I'm having a problem with evolution > 1.05 . I'm getting a "config database not found" error. Is anyone else > having this? I've tried removing and re-installing evolution and no > dice. This is a fresh install, not an upgrade. > > Kevin Madrick > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From kris@jkstark.dyns.cx Thu Jun 6 23:44:08 2002 From: kris@jkstark.dyns.cx (Kris Stark) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL.. fixed... In-Reply-To: <1023399760.4214.20.camel@international.tusonix.com> References: <200206061251.AA28311926@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> <1023396595.20833.16.camel@laptop> <1023399760.4214.20.camel@international.tusonix.com> Message-ID: <4382.205.232.74.142.1023403448.squirrel@jkstark.dyns.cx> I can not do anything but agree to those statements about ntpd... I wish that there was something as well done and as simple in Windows! I have to administer a few sites, and although I do have the programs in Windows to do updates, people want to fiddle with them too often. Then again, I guess that is a general problem with Windows... :) Kris Thomas Spuhler said: > That indeed is a great program. > Tom > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 13:49, Aaron Baer wrote: >> Have you ever tried running ntpd? A nice network time daemon can make >> all of your time and date issues fade away.. >> >> A- >> >> On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 12:51, Isaac Ordonez wrote: >> I know one of the biggest pains in linux is keeping the damn clock >> set right. >> > >> >> -- >> ---- >> Aaron Baer >> judah@opusnet.com >> http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users maillist - Users@ximian.com >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users >> -- -- From ldlane@citlink.net Fri Jun 7 01:00:15 2002 From: ldlane@citlink.net (Lance Lance) Date: 06 Jun 2002 17:00:15 -0700 Subject: [Users] Good Job Ximian! Message-ID: <1023408018.18315.1.camel@linux> --=-NtWGrNDWMImRq9wITGtV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really like Evolution. It does almost everything that I could want for a progam (Wish that it could "Bounce" messages like Kmail). It is wonderful. If I wanted to use M$ Outook, I would have stuck with windows. Thanks guys! Lance --=-NtWGrNDWMImRq9wITGtV Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I really like Evolution.  It does almost everything that I could want for a progam (Wish that it could "Bounce" messages like Kmail).  It is wonderful.  If I wanted to use M$ Outook, I would have stuck with windows.  Thanks guys!


Lance

--=-NtWGrNDWMImRq9wITGtV-- From dobey@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 01:53:36 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 06 Jun 2002 20:53:36 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3AC3591971F79549805FE05B8D041697D386F8@STR1VEXC003.CTHES.COM> References: <3AC3591971F79549805FE05B8D041697D386F8@STR1VEXC003.CTHES.COM> Message-ID: <1023411216.24640.0.camel@beatbox> Yes. :) -- dobey On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:30, Chris Cullum wrote: Does ximian have a guess-timate of when they will be upgrading to Mozilla 1.0? Christopher M.W. Cullum ccullum@uprizer.com From smchenry@columbus.rr.com Fri Jun 7 05:08:41 2002 From: smchenry@columbus.rr.com (Sean McHenry) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:08:41 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution onlyPackageset name to match: evolution Adding package evolution Adding package bonobo-conf Adding package gal Adding package gtkhtml Adding package gnome-vfs-proxy-capplet Adding package bug-buddy Message-ID: <3D0031C9.5060908@columbus.rr.com> Adding package red-carpet Adding package gnome-pilot Adding package control-center Adding package audiofile Adding package esound Adding package gnome-print Adding package libgnomeprint15 Adding package gdk-pixbuf Adding package glib Adding package gtk+ Adding package libglade Adding package imlib Adding package imlib-cfgeditor Adding package libxml Adding package gnome-libs Adding package ORBit Adding package GConf Adding package bonobo Adding package gnome-vfs Adding package gtkhtml Adding package oaf Adding package scrollkeeper RESOLVED! Install: 46 Requested: 28 Pulled in: ORBit-devel 0.5.15-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libglade-devel 0.17-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: control-center-devel 1.4.0.5-1.ximian.3 Pulled in: esound-devel 0.2.26-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: audiofile-devel 0.2.3-1.ximian.2 Pulled in: gnome-libs-devel 1.4.1.6-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: gdk-pixbuf-devel 0.17.0-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: GConf-devel 1.0.9-4.ximian.2 Pulled in: bonobo-devel 1.0.20-1.ximian.7 Pulled in: gdk-pixbuf-gnome 0.17.0-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: imlib-devel 1.9.14-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libxml-devel 1.8.17-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: pilot-link 0.9.5-ximian.2 Pulled in: oaf-devel 0.6.10-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: gnome-print-devel 0.35-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libbonobo-conf0 0.15-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libgal19 0.19.2-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libgtkhtml20 1.0.3-1.ximian.1 Ximians Evolution install - bad idea folks? Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------030901060405010106050808" --------------030901060405010106050808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So following the previous questions I asked about can you install only Evolution - here is the output of the Ximian installer when attempting to install Evo... Packageset name to match: evolution Adding package evolution Adding package bonobo-conf Adding package gal Adding package gtkhtml Adding package gnome-vfs-proxy-capplet Adding package bug-buddy Adding package red-carpet Adding package gnome-pilot Adding package control-center Adding package audiofile Adding package esound Adding package gnome-print Adding package libgnomeprint15 Adding package gdk-pixbuf Adding package glib Adding package gtk+ Adding package libglade Adding package imlib Adding package imlib-cfgeditor Adding package libxml Adding package gnome-libs Adding package ORBit Adding package GConf Adding package bonobo Adding package gnome-vfs Adding package gtkhtml Adding package oaf Adding package scrollkeeper RESOLVED! Install: 46 Requested: 28 Pulled in: ORBit-devel 0.5.15-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libglade-devel 0.17-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: control-center-devel 1.4.0.5-1.ximian.3 Pulled in: esound-devel 0.2.26-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: audiofile-devel 0.2.3-1.ximian.2 Pulled in: gnome-libs-devel 1.4.1.6-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: gdk-pixbuf-devel 0.17.0-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: GConf-devel 1.0.9-4.ximian.2 Pulled in: bonobo-devel 1.0.20-1.ximian.7 Pulled in: gdk-pixbuf-gnome 0.17.0-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: imlib-devel 1.9.14-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libxml-devel 1.8.17-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: pilot-link 0.9.5-ximian.2 Pulled in: oaf-devel 0.6.10-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: gnome-print-devel 0.35-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libbonobo-conf0 0.15-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libgal19 0.19.2-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: libgtkhtml20 1.0.3-1.ximian.1 Pulled in: gnome-mime-data 1.0.5-1.ximian.1 As we all see here, the Ximian installer wants to replace many packages with "ximianized" versions. This should not be. As I chose the installers option to install only Evolution, it should be forced to use generic packages and not the "special" Ximian versions. These packages will no doubt break more than a few things on my well running RH 7.2 system. Why is this? I suppose the only way to install Evo then is to run GnoRPM and make note of the dependancies (there are about a dozen or more) and update them manually myself? Seems if you are going to offer a method to install Evo on it's own, you ought to make sure you also offer the plain vanilla version of the supporting packages. Will this be changing or do I need to go the long rout on my own? Thanks again, Sean McHenry -- Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 --------------030901060405010106050808-- From smchenry@columbus.rr.com Fri Jun 7 05:16:27 2002 From: smchenry@columbus.rr.com (Sean McHenry) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:16:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] Sorry about that chief(s). Message-ID: <3D00339B.3040101@columbus.rr.com> --------------050700090503070202040200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the last header on my Evolution message. Got pasted in and I thought I killed it but it snuck through. Again, Sorry, Sean -- Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 --------------050700090503070202040200-- From bradb@sportingwheelies.org.au Fri Jun 7 06:23:57 2002 From: bradb@sportingwheelies.org.au (Rsyncuser) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:23:57 +1000 Subject: [Users] Upgrade Evolution... Message-ID: <200206071523.57019.bradb@sportingwheelies.org.au> I am using Red Hat 7.3 which came with Evolution 1.0.3-4 and it has proven to be only average in stability and useability, with Evolution crashes not uncommon. As 1.0.5-1 has been released, I decided to download the new version and run the RPM upgrade. I did this and after running the upgrade, I got: libgtkhtml20 >= 1.0.3 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 gtkhtml >= 1.0.3 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 libgal19 >= 0.19.2 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 bonobo-conf >= 0.15 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 gal >= 0.19.2 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 After further investigation, most of these other packages can't be upgraded due to other dependencies. Does anyone know of a way for me to upgrade to 1.05? Regards, Brad From DaDaDom@web.de Fri Jun 7 11:40:14 2002 From: DaDaDom@web.de (Dominik Sandjaja) Date: 07 Jun 2002 12:40:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] redcarpet & RH 7.3 dep problems In-Reply-To: <1023380122.1617.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023380122.1617.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023446415.3186.1.camel@Mindboggling> Hi, I got the same problem but it is no problem to update the perl-Digest 2.20 manually (rpm from rpmfind.net). Works fine for me :-) Dominik From sidney@sigournay.com Fri Jun 7 14:49:48 2002 From: sidney@sigournay.com (sidney sigournay) Date: 07 Jun 2002 13:49:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] Problems with the Addressbook and Contacts Message-ID: <1023454117.2478.3.camel@balroc> I have recently purchased a copy of suse v8 which is bundled with the evolution mail client. I have a problem whereby I cannot add any contacts or save any calendar entries. Has anyone else experienced this ? -- Sidney Sigournay Network Analyst +uk (0778) 9877515 From scott@therubberroom.org Fri Jun 7 14:29:58 2002 From: scott@therubberroom.org (Scott Tyson) Date: 07 Jun 2002 06:29:58 -0700 Subject: [Users] Upgrade Evolution... In-Reply-To: <200206071523.57019.bradb@sportingwheelies.org.au> References: <200206071523.57019.bradb@sportingwheelies.org.au> Message-ID: <1023456598.2966.1.camel@metalhead> On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 22:23, Rsyncuser wrote: > I am using Red Hat 7.3 which came with Evolution 1.0.3-4 and it has proven to > be only average in stability and useability, with Evolution crashes not > uncommon. As 1.0.5-1 has been released, I decided to download the new version > and run the RPM upgrade. I did this and after running the upgrade, I got: > > libgtkhtml20 >= 1.0.3 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 > gtkhtml >= 1.0.3 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 > libgal19 >= 0.19.2 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 > bonobo-conf >= 0.15 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 > gal >= 0.19.2 is needed by evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.6 > > After further investigation, most of these other packages can't be upgraded > due to other dependencies. > > Does anyone know of a way for me to upgrade to 1.05? > Use redcarpet to install evolution. It will take care of the dependencies for you. From webmaster@psysolutions.com Fri Jun 7 14:43:23 2002 From: webmaster@psysolutions.com (Russ Haskett) Date: 07 Jun 2002 08:43:23 -0500 Subject: [Users] Re: An e-mail virus? In-Reply-To: <20020606214614.GA14373@mossroot> References: <1023397236.1418.72.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> <20020606214614.GA14373@mossroot> Message-ID: <1023457403.690.15.camel@dirt> for all the hoopla on those two sites they really don't give any information on how this would affect a linux box or what one would do about it. it just vaguely states that linux is vulnerable to a virus and that windows is both vulnerable and not vulnerable (an event that i had previously thought to be mutually exclusive). i searched for a while for anything about this so called linux virus, but nothing was found except references to those two links. i think it is all a bunch of crap to mesmerize the ignorant public -which is not hard to do. > The Simile virus is interesting, but mostly a proof of concept at this point. It hasn't actually been found in the wild... it was sent to the AV companies as a demonstration. > > Even so, it's unlikely that the Simile virus could possibly be spread through e-mail like Klez or any of the others. > > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 02:00:34PM -0700, Mike Robinson wrote: > > FYI, I just saw this item the other day, from the SANS NewsBites: > > > > --3 June 2002 Simile is Cross-Platform Virus > > The Simile virus infects Portable Executable (PE) and ELF files on > > both Windows and Linux operating systems. The virus does not carry > > a malicious payload, although infected files could display messages > > on certain dates. > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/06/03/1022982662974.html > > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html > > <> From dobey@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 15:27:59 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 07 Jun 2002 10:27:59 -0400 Subject: [Users] Problems with the Addressbook and Contacts In-Reply-To: <1023454117.2478.3.camel@balroc> References: <1023454117.2478.3.camel@balroc> Message-ID: <1023460079.1311.1.camel@beatbox> You need to install the evolution updates that are available. It is also highly recommended that you just install the Evolution packages straight from us, to get the latest version, which has many more bug fixes. The version that comes included in SuSE 8.0 is built incorrectly, and the Calendar and Addressbook have many problems. There is an update to SuSE 8.0, which fixes this, and we also support SuSE 8.0 now, with the Ximian Desktop. -- dobey On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 09:49, sidney sigournay wrote: I have recently purchased a copy of suse v8 which is bundled with the evolution mail client. I have a problem whereby I cannot add any contacts or save any calendar entries. Has anyone else experienced this ? -- Sidney Sigournay Network Analyst +uk (0778) 9877515 _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dobey@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 15:37:30 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 07 Jun 2002 10:37:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution onlyPackageset name to match: evolution Adding package evolution Adding package bonobo-conf Adding package gal Adding package gtkhtml Adding package gnome-vfs-proxy-capplet Adding package bug-buddy In-Reply-To: <3D0031C9.5060908@columbus.rr.com> References: <3D0031C9.5060908@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <1023460650.1311.12.camel@beatbox> For varying definitions of "ximianized", this is correct. As I said before, in a previous reply to one of your emails, the new Evolution works much better with newer versions of several of the libraries that it requires. We provide these. If you can find rpms of these packages, for your distribution, provided elsewhere, feel free to try and mix and match packages at your own risk. We provide control-center, etc... in the "Evolution Only" installset, because they are dependencies of the Evolution packages, and are required to function properly. These of course, have to be provided for those that don't have those packages installed in the first place. We can not remove these from the install set for one single person. I don't know what you are afraid of putting on your system from us that we ship updated versions of, but you are free to check the patches and remove the ones you don't want and rebuild your own rpms. We *do* ship the source. Some packages have patches that are made specifically for certain distributions. Some patches are from upstream maintainers of the packages for us to include. Some patches are to make using the desktop easier and nicer for end users. You are running Red Hat 7.2 you say. You have nothing to fear at all. In fact, if anything breaks at all, you have found a very rare bug indeed, and you can be sure that it will most likely be fixed as quickly as it can be, because 90% of the people in this company run Red Hat. We have a bug tracking system for a reason. :) -- dobey As we all see here, the Ximian installer wants to replace many packages with "ximianized" versions. This should not be. As I chose the installers option to install only Evolution, it should be forced to use generic packages and not the "special" Ximian versions. These packages will no doubt break more than a few things on my well running RH 7.2 system. Why is this? I suppose the only way to install Evo then is to run GnoRPM and make note of the dependancies (there are about a dozen or more) and update them manually myself? Seems if you are going to offer a method to install Evo on it's own, you ought to make sure you also offer the plain vanilla version of the supporting packages. Will this be changing or do I need to go the long rout on my own? Thanks again, Sean McHenry -- Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 --------------030901060405010106050808-- _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From weberjohns@qwest.net Fri Jun 7 16:00:24 2002 From: weberjohns@qwest.net (John S. Weber) Date: 07 Jun 2002 09:00:24 -0600 Subject: [Users] open office Message-ID: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> Hi, I've installed open office from Ximian through red carpet. RH7.1. openoffice-skel-1.0-0.ximian.1 openoffice-1.0-0.ximian.1 I can't seem to save a spreadsheet or writer document without getting and "unrecoverable error has occurred...". It does seem to save the work before it crashes, apparently in /tmp/sv*.tmp and is able to recover the file OK, but I can't save anything in a regular file. is anybody else having this problem or know of a fix? Thanks, John -- John S. Weber weberjohns@qwest.net http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns/ From peter@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 16:13:13 2002 From: peter@ximian.com (Peter Teichman) Date: 07 Jun 2002 11:13:13 -0400 Subject: [Users] open office In-Reply-To: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> References: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> Message-ID: <1023462795.12968.6.camel@truffula> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 11:00, John S. Weber wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed open office from Ximian through red carpet. RH7.1. > > openoffice-skel-1.0-0.ximian.1 > openoffice-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > I can't seem to save a spreadsheet or writer document without getting > and "unrecoverable error has occurred...". It does seem to save the work > before it crashes, apparently in /tmp/sv*.tmp and is able to recover the > file OK, but I can't save anything in a regular file. is anybody else > having this problem or know of a fix? Bring up the Options dialog (Tools->Options), and go to the "Paths" section. What path is associated with the "My Documents" type? Peter From rscrawford@mossroot.com Fri Jun 7 16:14:51 2002 From: rscrawford@mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:14:51 -0700 Subject: [Users] Evolution onlyPackageset name to match: evolution Adding package evolution Adding package bonobo-conf Adding package gal Adding package gtkhtml Adding package gnome-vfs-proxy-capplet Adding package bug-buddy In-Reply-To: <1023460650.1311.12.camel@beatbox> References: <3D0031C9.5060908@columbus.rr.com> <1023460650.1311.12.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <20020607151451.GB20300@mossroot> In fairness to Ximian: I've been running Ximian and Evolution for several months now with very few problems on my Red Hat 7.2 box. Certainly *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* that was shipped with Red Hat was broken by Ximian's software. I've found the integration seamless and, on the whole, trouble-free. I admit that I have had problems with some of Ximian's packages installing on my system due to broken dependencies... but this is, in fact, my own fault. Early on when I was first using Red Carpet, I subscribed to the GNOME 2.0 snapshot channel, and downloaded everything there... then tried to uninstall the packages by hand, which caused problems. If I'd read the warning in the GNOME 2.0 channel stating that the software there was untested and liable to break things, then I wouldn't have done it. I could have completely removed the GNOME 2.0 packages, but that would have broken just about everything else, and I would have needed to do a complete reinstall of my system, something I'm not at all interested in doing right now. Ximian is a great company with a great product. It's not a perfect product, but that's all right by me. On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:37:30AM -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > For varying definitions of "ximianized", this is correct. As I said > before, in a previous reply to one of your emails, the new Evolution > works much better with newer versions of several of the libraries that > it requires. We provide these. If you can find rpms of these packages, > for your distribution, provided elsewhere, feel free to try and mix and > match packages at your own risk. We provide control-center, etc... in > the "Evolution Only" installset, because they are dependencies of the > Evolution packages, and are required to function properly. These of > course, have to be provided for those that don't have those packages > installed in the first place. We can not remove these from the install > set for one single person. I don't know what you are afraid of putting > on your system from us that we ship updated versions of, but you are > free to check the patches and remove the ones you don't want and rebuild > your own rpms. We *do* ship the source. Some packages have patches that > are made specifically for certain distributions. Some patches are from > upstream maintainers of the packages for us to include. Some patches > are to make using the desktop easier and nicer for end users. You are > running Red Hat 7.2 you say. You have nothing to fear at all. In fact, > if anything breaks at all, you have found a very rare bug indeed, and > you can be sure that it will most likely be fixed as quickly as it can > be, because 90% of the people in this company run Red Hat. We have a > bug tracking system for a reason. :) > > -- dobey > > As we all see here, the Ximian installer wants to replace many packages > with "ximianized" versions. This should not be. As I chose the > installers option to install only Evolution, it should be forced to use > generic packages and not the "special" Ximian versions. These packages > will no doubt break more than a few things on my well running RH 7.2 > system. Why is this? > > I suppose the only way to install Evo then is to run GnoRPM and make > note of the dependancies (there are about a dozen or more) and update > them manually myself? Seems if you are going to offer a method to > install Evo on it's own, you ought to make sure you also offer the plain > vanilla version of the supporting packages. > > Will this be changing or do I need to go the long rout on my own? > > Thanks again, > Sean McHenry > > -- > > Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry > Technologies > Hilliard, Ohio > Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 > > > > > --------------030901060405010106050808-- > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford mailto:rscrawford@mossroot.com http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Yahoo!: rscrawford MSN: underpope@hotmail.com "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery vi vi vi - the editor of the beast From brissing@vexcel.com Fri Jun 7 16:16:18 2002 From: brissing@vexcel.com (Dean Brissinger) Date: 07 Jun 2002 09:16:18 -0600 Subject: [Users] OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 In-Reply-To: <1023384730.15830.0.camel@beatbox> References: <1023378388.28152.1.camel@binks.vexcel.com> <1023384730.15830.0.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <1023462978.28152.10.camel@binks.vexcel.com> Name : red-carpet Version : 1.3.2 Vendor: Ximian, Inc. Release : 1.ximian.1 Build Date: Wed 29 May 2002 12:18:08 PM MDT Install date: Mon 03 Jun 2002 09:33:15 AM MDT Build Host: triceratops Group : System Environment/Applications Source RPM: red-carpet-1.3.2-1.ximian.1.src.rpm Size : 7447084 On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:32, Rodney Dawes wrote: > What version of Red Carpet? > > -- dobey > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:46, Dean Brissinger wrote: > Has anyone tried installing OpenOffice on Mandrake 8.1 using red > carpet? It wants to uninstall half of Ximian Gnome on my system > (including evolution, and some libs needed for Gnome itself). I was > wondering if there is a known way to doing this install safely. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From damon.brodie@bridgewatersystems.com Fri Jun 7 16:24:24 2002 From: damon.brodie@bridgewatersystems.com (Damon Brodie) Date: 07 Jun 2002 11:24:24 -0400 Subject: [Users] open office In-Reply-To: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> References: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> Message-ID: <1023463464.14312.5.camel@nixbox.bridgewatersys.com> "Me Too" Star Office 6.0 seems ok though. I have it from Red Carpet Express. Damon. On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 11:00, John S. Weber wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed open office from Ximian through red carpet. RH7.1. > > openoffice-skel-1.0-0.ximian.1 > openoffice-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > I can't seem to save a spreadsheet or writer document without getting > and "unrecoverable error has occurred...". It does seem to save the work > before it crashes, apparently in /tmp/sv*.tmp and is able to recover the > file OK, but I can't save anything in a regular file. is anybody else > having this problem or know of a fix? > > Thanks, > John > > -- > John S. Weber > weberjohns@qwest.net > http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Damon Brodie Bridgewater Systems From nbc@cisco.com Fri Jun 7 16:35:02 2002 From: nbc@cisco.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: 07 Jun 2002 11:35:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution - contact list question Message-ID: <1023464103.18413.186.camel@nbc-linux> Hi - I am not subscribed to this mailing list, so please address any replies directly to me - thanks. Also - if there is a more appropriate place to send questions like this, please let me know. I have been using Evolution for a while now, and I like it a lot. One minor problem has surfaced - I'd appreciate knowing if there is a solution available, or if this will be changed/fixed in a future version. The problem is simple - I've created a list of contacts - not a large list, but it has 40 or 50 entries. I've also created a mailing list and dragged a subset of those contacts into the mailing list. That works fine. However, I've had a couple of people change email addresses, and when I edit their contact information, it does not make the corresponding change in the mailing list. If I forget that these people are part of a list, I end up having group messages bounce. Is there a way to automatically update mailing list entries? If not, is this something that will be fixed in the future? Thanks very much, nbc -- NAME: Neil B. Cohen (Cisco Systems Inc.) PHONE: 703-484-3205 DOMAIN: nbc@cisco.com ************************************************************* * Murphy's Philosophy: Smile - tomorrow will be worse... * * * * O'Tooles Commentary: Murphy was an optimist! * ************************************************************* From tdavis@approbation.org Fri Jun 7 17:11:10 2002 From: tdavis@approbation.org (Terry Davis) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:11:10 -0500 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? Message-ID: <1023466270.3d00db1e13c04@secure.birddog.com> I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? I read the KB without any luck. -- Terry From ian@deepsky.com Fri Jun 7 17:21:19 2002 From: ian@deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: <1023466270.3d00db1e13c04@secure.birddog.com> Message-ID: Is that the "unable to open database" error? If so, as root, run "oaf-slay" then restart evolution. Ian ------------ Dr Ian Firla Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > I read the KB without any luck. > > -- > Terry > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From mattblake@ntlworld.com Fri Jun 7 18:30:15 2002 From: mattblake@ntlworld.com (Matt Blake) Date: 07 Jun 2002 17:30:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] Clipboard doesn't work Message-ID: <1023471017.2307.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I'm new to the list and only recently installed Ximian. In evolution, i cannot use the clipboard - so if i want to copy something from say abiword into an email i cannot do it and have to type it all out again. I was impressed with evolution and Ximian, but this is annoying me! Has anybody else had this problem or know how i can solve it? Also how do i set evolution as the default email client so when i'm in a web browser - i mainly use konquerer, i can click send link or send file and it will open up a evolution message rather than kmail? thanks for any help Matt From td@approbation.org Fri Jun 7 18:13:11 2002 From: td@approbation.org (Terry Davis) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:13:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tried that without luck. It tells me that the daemon is running and kills it. I start evolution back up and I get "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution Shell: Configuration Database not found." This was in the Knowledge base and I tried it. Thank you! On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ian Firla wrote: > > Is that the "unable to open database" error? > > If so, as root, run "oaf-slay" then restart evolution. > > Ian > > ------------ > Dr Ian Firla > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > > > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > > > I read the KB without any luck. > > > > -- > > Terry > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com From alf@knusperfisch.de Fri Jun 7 18:19:21 2002 From: alf@knusperfisch.de (Alf Werder) Date: 07 Jun 2002 19:19:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ximian-Gnome on SuSE 8.0 Message-ID: <1023470361.2642.19.camel@penny.home> Hi! I convinced a friend to give Ximian a try. Hi did so, but had some problems with Ximian-Gnome on his Distro: SuSE 8.0. (1) The package sawfish-1.0.1-87 installs 'lib/rep/i386-suse-linux/sawfish/client.la' and 'lib/rep/i386-suse-linux/sawfish/client.so' with the prefix '/usr' while all the rest goes into '/opt/gnome'. This is surely an packaging error. It results in 'sawfish-capplet' crashing, because 'sawfish-client' looks for this files in the wrong location. (2) When starting red-carpet as non-root, you have to supply the root password twice. Once in the opening dialog and a second time in the terminal. This prevents red-carpet from being started from the menu. I do not know, what's going on here. (3) The Ximian.Previwe channel is not available for SuSE 8.0. This results in error messages when starting red-carpet. The file http://red-carpet.ximian.com/ximian-preview/suse-80-i386/packageinfo.xml.gz is just missing. Not a big deal. Just skipped this channel. (4) The background-properties-capplet crashes. Don't know why. Despite this: Thanks for the great desktop. -alf From ian@deepsky.com Fri Jun 7 18:21:17 2002 From: ian@deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can you paste what you get from /var/log/messages (try to start evolution then type: tail /var/log/messages). Ian ------------ Dr Ian Firla Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > I tried that without luck. It tells me that the daemon is running and > kills it. I start evolution back up and I get "Cannot initialize the > Ximian Evolution Shell: Configuration Database not found." > > This was in the Knowledge base and I tried it. > > Thank you! > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ian Firla wrote: > > > > > Is that the "unable to open database" error? > > > > If so, as root, run "oaf-slay" then restart evolution. > > > > Ian > > > > ------------ > > Dr Ian Firla > > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > > > > > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > > > > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > > > > > I read the KB without any luck. > > > > > > -- > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > -- > Terry Davis > Systems Administrator > BirdDog Solutions, Inc. > (402) 829-6059 > www.birddog.com > > From dado@wildbrain.com Fri Jun 7 18:19:45 2002 From: dado@wildbrain.com (Dado Feigenblatt) Date: 07 Jun 2002 10:19:45 -0700 Subject: [Users] More evolution weirdness on YDL.. fixed... In-Reply-To: <4382.205.232.74.142.1023403448.squirrel@jkstark.dyns.cx> References: <200206061251.AA28311926@marin.marin.k12.ca.us> <1023396595.20833.16.camel@laptop> <1023399760.4214.20.camel@international.tusonix.com> <4382.205.232.74.142.1023403448.squirrel@jkstark.dyns.cx> Message-ID: <1023470385.22426.20.camel@daedelus.wildbrain.com> On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 15:44, Kris Stark wrote: > I can not do anything but agree to those statements about ntpd... I wish > that there was something as well done and as simple in Windows! http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/service/its.htm nistime-32bit.exe. It's as simple as it can be. Sometimes you have to set the servers twice, but that's it. I have it at home as a service that runs twice a day. More than enough for a single machine. For many machines you might want to run it more often, depending on their drift. I don't know if they have a Windows server application so that you can have your own server on your network. It might be able to talk to other daemons in *nix boxes. I didn't see a Mac binary there, but they have a PDF file on how to have Macs sync to their servers, or so it seems. I have to > administer a few sites, and although I do have the programs in Windows to > do updates, people want to fiddle with them too often. Then again, I > guess that is a general problem with Windows... :) > Kris > > Thomas Spuhler said: > > That indeed is a great program. > > Tom > > > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 13:49, Aaron Baer wrote: > >> Have you ever tried running ntpd? A nice network time daemon can make > >> all of your time and date issues fade away.. > >> > >> A- > >> > >> On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 12:51, Isaac Ordonez wrote: > >> I know one of the biggest pains in linux is keeping the damn clock > >> set right. > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> ---- > >> Aaron Baer > >> judah@opusnet.com > >> http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > > -- > > > -- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Dado Feigenblatt Wild Brain, Inc. Technical Director (415) 553-8000 dado@wildbrain.com San Francisco, CA. From td@approbation.org Fri Jun 7 18:31:55 2002 From: td@approbation.org (Terry Davis) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:31:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ian Firla wrote: There was nothing in messages, which it wouldnt log there if I run it as a normal user, would it? I am using redhat linux btw. But, I exec'd from the console and got this: evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: (IDL:OAF/GeneralError:1.0) Thank you again! > > Can you paste what you get from /var/log/messages (try to start evolution > then type: tail /var/log/messages). > > Ian > > ------------ > Dr Ian Firla > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > > > I tried that without luck. It tells me that the daemon is running and > > kills it. I start evolution back up and I get "Cannot initialize the > > Ximian Evolution Shell: Configuration Database not found." > > > > This was in the Knowledge base and I tried it. > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ian Firla wrote: > > > > > > > > Is that the "unable to open database" error? > > > > > > If so, as root, run "oaf-slay" then restart evolution. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > ------------ > > > Dr Ian Firla > > > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > > > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > > > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > > > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > > > > > > > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > > > > > > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > > > > > > > I read the KB without any luck. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Terry Davis > > Systems Administrator > > BirdDog Solutions, Inc. > > (402) 829-6059 > > www.birddog.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com From ian@deepsky.com Fri Jun 7 18:37:02 2002 From: ian@deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ian Firla wrote: > There was nothing in messages, which it wouldnt log there if I run it as a > normal user, would it? I am using redhat linux btw. > > But, I exec'd from the console and got this: > evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: > (IDL:OAF/GeneralError:1.0) Hrmn. That really should get cleared up by oaf-slay. Try logging out your user from gnome, then go to tty1, log in as root and run top and see which processes belonging to your user are still running. (you can also type: ps aux | grep ) If there are any processes belonging to your user still hanging about, kill them. Then log back into Gnome and try starting evolution again. If things are still not going, try restarting Gnome. In my opinion, something is hanging on to a process that it should have let go. Best, Ian From joe@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 18:37:39 2002 From: joe@ximian.com (Joe Shaw) Date: 07 Jun 2002 13:37:39 -0400 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: <1023466270.3d00db1e13c04@secure.birddog.com> References: <1023466270.3d00db1e13c04@secure.birddog.com> Message-ID: <1023471459.10580.18.camel@caedes> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:11, Terry Davis wrote: > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > I read the KB without any luck. The following should work (after a killev): LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH evolution Joe From mtgordon@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 18:38:55 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 07 Jun 2002 13:38:55 -0400 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: <1023466270.3d00db1e13c04@secure.birddog.com> References: <1023466270.3d00db1e13c04@secure.birddog.com> Message-ID: <1023471562.13448.26.camel@metric> The snapshots dynamically link certain Mozilla-related libs and will not work with 1.0 until our snaps are built against the 1.0 versions (which should be soon). The normal releases of Evolution currently link these libraries statically in order to avoid such problems. What version of Evo are you running? -Mark Gordon On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:11, Terry Davis wrote: > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > I read the KB without any luck. > > -- > Terry > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From ian@deepsky.com Fri Jun 7 18:51:28 2002 From: ian@deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: <1023471562.13448.26.camel@metric> Message-ID: Interesting. Why would a mozilla build have any effect on Evolution? I'm very happily running Moz 1.0 (I often run nightly builds when I'm feeling chancy) and have never had an issue with running Evolution. I'm running 1.0.5 Best, Ian ------------ Dr Ian Firla Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens On 7 Jun 2002, Mark Gordon wrote: > The snapshots dynamically link certain Mozilla-related libs and will not > work with 1.0 until our snaps are built against the 1.0 versions (which > should be soon). The normal releases of Evolution currently link these > libraries statically in order to avoid such problems. What version of > Evo are you running? > > -Mark Gordon > > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:11, Terry Davis wrote: > > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > > > I read the KB without any luck. > > > > -- > > Terry > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From tdavis@approbation.org Fri Jun 7 18:55:57 2002 From: tdavis@approbation.org (Terry Davis) Date: 07 Jun 2002 12:55:57 -0500 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: <1023471459.10580.18.camel@caedes> References: <1023466270.3d00db1e13c04@secure.birddog.com> <1023471459.10580.18.camel@caedes> Message-ID: <1023472563.11306.1.camel@td> I added /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 to my ld.so.conf and things work fine now. Thank you! I am using the rawhide package on redhat 7.3 version 1.0.5. On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:37, Joe Shaw wrote: > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:11, Terry Davis wrote: > > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > > > I read the KB without any luck. > > The following should work (after a killev): > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH evolution > > Joe -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ From mtgordon@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 19:05:46 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 07 Jun 2002 14:05:46 -0400 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023473154.13448.30.camel@metric> Evolution uses both libnspr4 and libnss3. -Mark Gordon On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 13:51, Ian Firla wrote: > > Interesting. Why would a mozilla build have any effect on Evolution? > > I'm very happily running Moz 1.0 (I often run nightly builds when I'm > feeling chancy) and have never had an issue with running Evolution. I'm > running 1.0.5 > > Best, > > Ian > > ------------ > Dr Ian Firla > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > On 7 Jun 2002, Mark Gordon wrote: > > > The snapshots dynamically link certain Mozilla-related libs and will not > > work with 1.0 until our snaps are built against the 1.0 versions (which > > should be soon). The normal releases of Evolution currently link these > > libraries statically in order to avoid such problems. What version of > > Evo are you running? > > > > -Mark Gordon > > > > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:11, Terry Davis wrote: > > > I am getting the infamous evolution shell error when I start evolution. > > > > > > I just upgraded to 1.0 mozilla....is this related and is there a workaround? > > > > > > I read the KB without any luck. > > > > > > -- > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From tdavis@approbation.org Fri Jun 7 19:13:44 2002 From: tdavis@approbation.org (Terry Davis) Date: 07 Jun 2002 13:13:44 -0500 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: <1023473312.10582.24.camel@caedes> References: <1023473312.10582.24.camel@caedes> Message-ID: <1023473629.11309.15.camel@td> > Evolution uses libraries in Mozilla to do SSL. > > With the release of Mozilla 1.0, the libraries were moved from /usr/lib > into /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 so that development versions (and presumably > nightly builds) can be installed simulatenously. Evolution doesn't know > to look there (since it's a nonstandard location), so that's why you're > seeing problems. > > I'm not sure why they decided to do it that way instead of more standard > library versioning conventions, but hopefully now that 1.0 is out we can > do one more build and finally put the Mozilla/Nautilus/Evolution/Galeon > library hell behind us. > > Joe Well, since they are going forward and moving these libs to a non-standard location, shouldnt they make some global effort to make them available? Perhaps adding this value to ld.so.conf isn't a bad idea for the mozilla guys/gals. Because everytime they change versions, you are going to have to change where evolution looks for these libs, am I wrong? For example /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.1 for the next version.... -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ From matthew@marketdatacenter.net Fri Jun 7 19:19:22 2002 From: matthew@marketdatacenter.net (Matthew McCarty) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 13:19:22 -0500 Subject: [Users] IMAP simply does NOT work. Message-ID: <3D00F92A.8090607@marketdatacenter.net> Has anybody figured out how to get IMAP to work with Evolution. I have RH 7.1 with KDE. I never works reliable enough so I have to use Mozilla. M. McCarty From joe@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 19:08:32 2002 From: joe@ximian.com (Joe Shaw) Date: 07 Jun 2002 14:08:32 -0400 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023473312.10582.24.camel@caedes> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 13:51, Ian Firla wrote: > Interesting. Why would a mozilla build have any effect on Evolution? > > I'm very happily running Moz 1.0 (I often run nightly builds when I'm > feeling chancy) and have never had an issue with running Evolution. I'm > running 1.0.5 Evolution uses libraries in Mozilla to do SSL. With the release of Mozilla 1.0, the libraries were moved from /usr/lib into /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 so that development versions (and presumably nightly builds) can be installed simulatenously. Evolution doesn't know to look there (since it's a nonstandard location), so that's why you're seeing problems. I'm not sure why they decided to do it that way instead of more standard library versioning conventions, but hopefully now that 1.0 is out we can do one more build and finally put the Mozilla/Nautilus/Evolution/Galeon library hell behind us. Joe From tdavis@approbation.org Fri Jun 7 19:29:33 2002 From: tdavis@approbation.org (Terry Davis) Date: 07 Jun 2002 13:29:33 -0500 Subject: [Users] IMAP simply does NOT work. In-Reply-To: <3D00F92A.8090607@marketdatacenter.net> References: <3D00F92A.8090607@marketdatacenter.net> Message-ID: <1023474579.11309.19.camel@td> I use it consistently with UW-imapd. There are some speed issues but other than that it is fine for me. Evolution has some nice features over mozilla like the CTRL+E for expunge, small but a very handy feature. On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 13:19, Matthew McCarty wrote: > Has anybody figured out how to get IMAP to work with Evolution. > > I have RH 7.1 with KDE. > > I never works reliable enough so I have to use Mozilla. > > M. McCarty > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ From brzlin@eunet.yu Fri Jun 7 22:39:15 2002 From: brzlin@eunet.yu (Boris Jankovic) Date: 07 Jun 2002 20:39:15 -0100 Subject: [Users] Clipboard doesn't work In-Reply-To: <1023471017.2307.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023471017.2307.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023485680.6941.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> Well, It works , in fact I wrote this in AbiWord. Select and copy/cut part of the text that you need, as you should normally do, and in composer click on the middle button of your mouse (or however they call it , on my mouse it's actually left-side button). That button works like paste - there's not a pop-menu, it just pastes. However, Ctrl-V should do the job, too. I don't use konqueror, with galeon it works just fine. You only have to specify in GnomeControlCenter->URL Handlers mailto evolution "%s" There was a topic on this list about that question, recently. Here's what someone wrote: /*--------------------------------------------------------- I don't use Konqueror, but assume this is your problem: Evolution has to be called like this: evolution mailto:
e.g.: evolution mailto:r.floyd@verizon.net with no space between the "mailto:" and the address. If Konqueror doesn't have the capability for setting up the command line this way, you will have to use a helper script like my 'evomail'. ==================== #! /bin/bsh /usr/bin/evolution --no-splash "mailto:$1" ==================== (Older versions of the Opera browser required this.) ------------------------------------------------------------*/ I don't know, maybe this could help I didn't try (as I mentioned before, I use galeon) I apologize for bad English. Boris P.S. So funny AbiWord is unkown word to AbiWord spell checker :) On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 16:30, Matt Blake wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to the list and only recently installed Ximian. In evolution, i > cannot use the clipboard - so if i want to copy something from say > abiword into an email i cannot do it and have to type it all out again. > I was impressed with evolution and Ximian, but this is annoying me! Has > anybody else had this problem or know how i can solve it? > > Also how do i set evolution as the default email client so when i'm in a > web browser - i mainly use konquerer, i can click send link or send file > and it will open up a evolution message rather than kmail? > > thanks for any help > > Matt > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > From joe@ximian.com Fri Jun 7 19:35:26 2002 From: joe@ximian.com (Joe Shaw) Date: 07 Jun 2002 14:35:26 -0400 Subject: [Users] mozilla 1.0 incompatibilities? In-Reply-To: <1023473629.11309.15.camel@td> References: <1023473312.10582.24.camel@caedes> <1023473629.11309.15.camel@td> Message-ID: <1023474926.10580.28.camel@caedes> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 14:13, Terry Davis wrote: > Well, since they are going forward and moving these libs to a > non-standard location, shouldnt they make some global effort to make > them available? Perhaps adding this value to ld.so.conf isn't a bad > idea for the mozilla guys/gals. Adding a symlink in /usr/lib might be sufficient. > Because everytime they change versions, you are going to have to change > where evolution looks for these libs, am I wrong? > > For example /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.1 for the next version.... Dear god I hope not. They shouldn't be breaking any source or binary compatibility until (at least) 1.1, so it shouldn't be necessary to put it in a separate directory. Otherwise, post-1.0 Mozilla will be an even larger packaging nightmare than pre-1.0. Joe From judah@opusnet.com Fri Jun 7 20:55:27 2002 From: judah@opusnet.com (Aaron Baer) Date: 07 Jun 2002 12:55:27 -0700 Subject: [Users] IMAP simply does NOT work. In-Reply-To: <3D00F92A.8090607@marketdatacenter.net> References: <3D00F92A.8090607@marketdatacenter.net> Message-ID: <1023479729.24196.75.camel@laptop> I currently pull from multiple IMAP servers all the time. Check your account configuration, specifically the means in which your password is authenticated, and make sure that there isn't a firewall somewhere in between you and your destination that is blocking IMAP... A- On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 11:19, Matthew McCarty wrote: > Has anybody figured out how to get IMAP to work with Evolution. > -- ---- Aaron Baer judah@opusnet.com http://www.cat.pdx.edu/~baera/ From tpibil@comcast.net Fri Jun 7 20:55:09 2002 From: tpibil@comcast.net (Ted Pibil) Date: 07 Jun 2002 15:55:09 -0400 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet on multiple workstations Message-ID: <1023479714.28940.46.camel@vega.assurenet.com> I have subscribed to the premium services on Red Carpet. I am now building a separate box that I want to have Ximian on. If I want to use the premium services on that box will I have to purchase another subscription? From weberjohns@qwest.net Fri Jun 7 21:10:03 2002 From: weberjohns@qwest.net (John S. Weber) Date: 07 Jun 2002 14:10:03 -0600 Subject: [Users] open office In-Reply-To: <1023462795.12968.6.camel@truffula> References: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> <1023462795.12968.6.camel@truffula> Message-ID: <1023480603.19841.52.camel@ceora> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 09:13, Peter Teichman wrote: > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 11:00, John S. Weber wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've installed open office from Ximian through red carpet. RH7.1. > > > > openoffice-skel-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > openoffice-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > > > I can't seem to save a spreadsheet or writer document without getting > > and "unrecoverable error has occurred...". It does seem to save the work > > before it crashes, apparently in /tmp/sv*.tmp and is able to recover the > > file OK, but I can't save anything in a regular file. is anybody else > > having this problem or know of a fix? > > Bring up the Options dialog (Tools->Options), and go to the "Paths" > section. What path is associated with the "My Documents" type? > > Peter > "/home/jweber" is associated with "My Documents", which is my home directory. Should it be something else? -- John S. Weber weberjohns@qwest.net http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns/ From jweber@math.cudenver.edu Fri Jun 7 21:32:49 2002 From: jweber@math.cudenver.edu (John Weber) Date: 07 Jun 2002 14:32:49 -0600 Subject: [Users] open office In-Reply-To: <1023462795.12968.6.camel@truffula> References: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> <1023462795.12968.6.camel@truffula> Message-ID: <1023481969.23773.9.camel@ceora> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 09:13, Peter Teichman wrote: > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 11:00, John S. Weber wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've installed open office from Ximian through red carpet. RH7.1. > > > > openoffice-skel-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > openoffice-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > > > I can't seem to save a spreadsheet or writer document without getting > > and "unrecoverable error has occurred...". It does seem to save the work > > before it crashes, apparently in /tmp/sv*.tmp and is able to recover the > > file OK, but I can't save anything in a regular file. is anybody else > > having this problem or know of a fix? > > Bring up the Options dialog (Tools->Options), and go to the "Paths" > section. What path is associated with the "My Documents" type? > > Peter > > From a new test account on my machine, I can save files. The path for "My Documents" is /home/test/Documents. So I checked in my account and I have this directory with the same perms. I renamed /home/jweber/.OpenOffice.org1.0/ to xxx.OpenOffice.org1.0.xxx and let ooffice create a new config directory. It asked me to migrate my mozilla addresses and to to register ooffice (same as the test account). I still can't save in my own account. It has now set the "My Documents" path to /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/work which doesn't exist. What's different about a new test account and deleting ~/.OpenOffice.org1.0/ ? -- John S. Weber jweber@math.cudenver.edu http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns From jweber@math.cudenver.edu Fri Jun 7 22:12:08 2002 From: jweber@math.cudenver.edu (John Weber) Date: 07 Jun 2002 15:12:08 -0600 Subject: [Users] open office In-Reply-To: <1023481969.23773.9.camel@ceora> References: <1023462024.16863.35.camel@ceora> <1023462795.12968.6.camel@truffula> <1023481969.23773.9.camel@ceora> Message-ID: <1023484329.24798.8.camel@ceora> Hi, I think I fixed it. I noticed that compared to my test account, ooffice was creating the config directory ~/.OpenOffice.org1.0 rather than ~/.openoffice1.0. So I grepped around and found in .sversionrc some references to .OpenOffice.org1.0 with respect to previous installs of star office and OO from OO.org. I deleted these lines and also some references to .OpenOffice.org1.0 in ~/.mailcap. I deleted ~/.OpenOffice.org1.0/ and ran oofice again. This time it created .openoffice1.0 and I can save files. Seems to be leftover junk from closely related offices causing the problem. I hope this info helps others. John On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 14:32, John Weber wrote: > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 09:13, Peter Teichman wrote: > > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 11:00, John S. Weber wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've installed open office from Ximian through red carpet. RH7.1. > > > > > > openoffice-skel-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > > openoffice-1.0-0.ximian.1 > > > > > > I can't seem to save a spreadsheet or writer document without getting > > > and "unrecoverable error has occurred...". It does seem to save the work > > > before it crashes, apparently in /tmp/sv*.tmp and is able to recover the > > > file OK, but I can't save anything in a regular file. is anybody else > > > having this problem or know of a fix? -- John S. Weber jweber@math.cudenver.edu http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns From cparrish@icegallery.com Fri Jun 7 20:27:15 2002 From: cparrish@icegallery.com (Carl Parrish) Date: 07 Jun 2002 12:27:15 -0700 Subject: [Users] Spell check Message-ID: <1023478041.4209.18.camel@hawkeye> Okay here is an interesting question. You know how you can tell evolution to add a word to the dictionary? Well how do you take something out of your dictionary?? Carl Parrish. From frederik@dannemare.dk Fri Jun 7 23:05:41 2002 From: frederik@dannemare.dk (Frederik Dannemare) Date: 08 Jun 2002 00:05:41 +0200 Subject: [Users] IMAP simply does NOT work. In-Reply-To: <3D00F92A.8090607@marketdatacenter.net> References: <3D00F92A.8090607@marketdatacenter.net> Message-ID: <1023487541.26653.73.camel@linux> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 20:19, Matthew McCarty wrote: > Has anybody figured out how to get IMAP to work with Evolution. > > I have RH 7.1 with KDE. > > I never works reliable enough so I have to use Mozilla. I have two problems with evo IMAP myself: 1) This may actually be a Exchange problem, but here goes: As mentioned by other users on this list as well, using IMAP to access an Exchange Server doesn't work quite well when you do a 'send/receive'. New email doesn't show up in the INBOX - only if you click on another folder on the Exchange Server and then goes back to INBOX the new email will show up. 2) Maybe I just haven't figured this one out myself, but deleting an email doesn't work at all like I want it to. Using Squirrelmail, for instance, works fine (like I want it to behave). I delete an email and it goes to the Trash folder on my IMAP server (Courier IMAP). In evo, on the other hand, it doesn't end up in the Trash folder on my IMAP server, but instead it goes to the Evo Trash folder (a vfolder?). The deleted messages simply doesn't end up on Trash folder on my IMAP server. I guess this is because it is simply not implemented yet?, which is why you cannot specify a Trash folder in 'Mail Settings' -> 'Special Folders' the way it can be done for Drafts and Sent folder. Best regards, Frederik Dannemare From ejahn@worksystems.org Sat Jun 8 00:21:26 2002 From: ejahn@worksystems.org (Eric Jahn) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:21:26 -0700 Subject: [Users] open office Message-ID: <319FB8934F09BF48A3F3228370882667385FE5@wsimail.worksystems.org> I noticed this same problem with the inability to save files etc. If you don't want to fiddle with your .sversionrc and .mailcap files, just install OpenOffice 641d and all these problems will go away. Hi, I think I fixed it. I noticed that compared to my test account, ooffice was creating the config directory ~/.OpenOffice.org1.0 rather than ~/.openoffice1.0. So I grepped around and found in .sversionrc some references to .OpenOffice.org1.0 with respect to previous installs of star office and OO from OO.org. I deleted these lines and also some references to .OpenOffice.org1.0 in ~/.mailcap. I deleted ~/.OpenOffice.org1.0/ and ran oofice again. This time it created .openoffice1.0 and I can save files. Seems to be leftover junk from closely related offices causing the problem. I hope this info helps others. John From awilliam@whitemice.org Sat Jun 8 00:36:01 2002 From: awilliam@whitemice.org (Adam Williams) Date: 07 Jun 2002 19:36:01 -0400 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet on multiple workstations In-Reply-To: <1023479714.28940.46.camel@vega.assurenet.com> References: <1023479714.28940.46.camel@vega.assurenet.com> Message-ID: <1023492961.1852.4.camel@estate1.whitemice.org> >I have subscribed to the premium services on Red Carpet. I am now >building a separate box that I want to have Ximian on. If I want to use >the premium services on that box will I have to purchase another >subscription? No, just request a new activation key and 'premium-ize' the red carpet your using. That will de-premium-ize the other red carpet. But thats OK, you can request a new activation key as often as you like, but only one host can be premium at a time. From chad@iaparrot.com Sat Jun 8 02:34:01 2002 From: chad@iaparrot.com (Chad) Date: 07 Jun 2002 20:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Users] Ximian and Linux... Message-ID: <1023500043.1050.12.camel@Laptop> I have to say, running Gnome, Ximian, Evolution etc., on Linux really rocks. ;) I wish I could figure out a way to play EverQuest on my linux box! haha From chad@iaparrot.com Sat Jun 8 02:35:07 2002 From: chad@iaparrot.com (Chad) Date: 07 Jun 2002 20:35:07 -0500 Subject: [Users] Applets? Message-ID: <1023500109.1052.14.camel@Laptop> When I reboot, my applets are all gone? How can I get them to stay on the launcher bar when I reboot? Like Weather, etc.,? From ccullum@yemtech.com Sat Jun 8 02:45:52 2002 From: ccullum@yemtech.com (Christopher Cullum) Date: 07 Jun 2002 18:45:52 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ximian and Linux... In-Reply-To: <1023500043.1050.12.camel@Laptop> References: <1023500043.1050.12.camel@Laptop> Message-ID: <1023500754.6877.0.camel@yem> You may want to try many of the window emulators based on Wine On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 18:34, Chad wrote: > I have to say, running Gnome, Ximian, Evolution etc., on Linux really > rocks. ;) I wish I could figure out a way to play EverQuest on my linux > box! haha > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From ccullum@yemtech.com Sat Jun 8 02:47:33 2002 From: ccullum@yemtech.com (Christopher Cullum) Date: 07 Jun 2002 18:47:33 -0700 Subject: [Users] Applets? In-Reply-To: <1023500109.1052.14.camel@Laptop> References: <1023500109.1052.14.camel@Laptop> Message-ID: <1023500853.6877.3.camel@yem> How are you rebooting? Are you going through the Gnome foot? If you are, there should be a button to "Save current setup". On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 18:35, Chad wrote: > > > When I reboot, my applets are all gone? How can I get them to stay on > the launcher bar when I reboot? Like Weather, etc.,? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From jweber@math.cudenver.edu Sat Jun 8 02:51:12 2002 From: jweber@math.cudenver.edu (John Weber) Date: 07 Jun 2002 19:51:12 -0600 Subject: [Users] openoffice question - character mapping Message-ID: <1023501072.24799.39.camel@ceora> Hi, When I open *.doc files it seems that a dash('-') is displayed as a question mark ('?'). Is there a way to fix this? I notice this in abiword also. Applixware seems to get it right. Some font setting for gnome? Thanks, John -- John S. Weber jweber@math.cudenver.edu http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns From edwardobazee@rediffmail.com Sat Jun 8 06:07:16 2002 From: edwardobazee@rediffmail.com (ENGR. EDWARD OBAZEE) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 05:07:16 Subject: [Users] INVITATION TO TREAT Message-ID: <200206080308.g5838dS29036@trna.ximian.com> ENGR. EDWARD OBAZEE LAGOS, NIGERIA 7TH JUNE 2002 For Your Kind Attention, It is my great pleasure to write this letter to you.firstly I must solicit your strictest confidence in this subject. This is by virtue of it's being utterly confidential and top secret. A member of the NIGERIA EXPORT PROMOTION COUNCIL (N.E.P.C.) who was part of the Federal Government Delegation to your country during a Trade Exhibition gave your particulars to me. I have decided to seek a confidential operation with you in the execution of the deal described hereunder for the benefit of all parties and I hope that you keep it top secret because of the nature of the business. Within the Department of MINES AND POWER where I now work as a Director of Engineering and Projects and with the co-operation of four other very top government officials, including the erstwhile chair of the Contract Review Panel, we have under our control as overdue contract payment bills totaling Thirty-Eight Million Six Hundred Thousand United States Dollars (US$38,600,000.00), which we want to transfer to a foreign account, with the assistance and cooperation of a foreign company to receive the said funds on our behalf or a reliable foreign individual account to receive the funds. The source of the fund is as follows: During the last military Government of GENERAL SANNI ABACHA here in Nigeria, the government set up the PETROLEUM TRUST FUND to handle the Billions of Dollars of oil Revenue Accruing to Nigeria, this was to give the government some credibility. Unfortunately, top government officials set up companies and awarded themselves contracts from the Petroleum Trust Funds which were grossly over invoiced. The present civilian government is not aware of the atrocities committed by their predecessors and as a result we have many such over invoiced contract payment pending and floating at the Central Bank of Nigeria. I as the former director of Bulk PURCHASE at the petroleum trust fund before it was handled over to the civilian government, I am aware of these funds and I have put together, with the cooperation of my colleagues the sum of Thirty-Eight Million, Six Hundred United States Dollars(US$38,600,000.00) contract payment. However, by virtue of our position as civil servants,we cannot acquire this money in our name. I was therefore delegated as a matter of urgency by my colleagues to look for an oversea partner into whose account we would transfer the funds hence we are writing you this letter. The present civilian Government is determined to pay foreign contractors all the debts owed so as to maintain an amicable relationship with both the foreign Government and the Non Government Financial Agencies. We have decided to include our bills for approval with the cooperation of some officials of the ACCOUNTANT GENERAL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA. We seek your assistance in providing us with a good company account or personal account into which we can remit this money, you will be acting as an ORGINAL CONTRACTOR in this deal,the funds will be paid to you. This we can do by SWAPPING of account information and changing of the beneficiary information to apply for payment, and prepare letters of claim and job description on your behalf. This process would be an internal arrangement with the departments concerned and we will handle this here, your duty is to act as the contractor and have the contract sum paid to you. I have the authority of my partners involved to propose that should you be willing to assist us in this transaction, your share as compensation will be US$9,650,000.(25%), US$27,020,000.00(70%) for us and US$1,930,000.00 (5%) for taxation and miscellaneous expenses. We will like to invest our share in any profitable venture in your country and we will greatly appreciate your assistance in this direction as we cannot bring money into Nigeria. The business itself is 100% safe and fail proof, provided you treat it with utmost secrecy and confidentiality, your line of specialization does not matter as it cannot hinder the successful execution of this transaction. I have reposed my confidence in you and I hope you will not disappoint me. Mail me to indicate your willingness to assist us. I will bring the complete picture of the transaction to your knowledge when I have heard from you. Thanks for your cooperation, kindest regards Edward Obazee From smchenry@columbus.rr.com Sat Jun 8 05:07:26 2002 From: smchenry@columbus.rr.com (Sean McHenry) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:07:26 -0400 Subject: [Users] So let me ask this then, Message-ID: <000201c20ea2$005b7600$0201a8c0@bighector> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C20E80.7949D600 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C20E80.794C1FF0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C20E80.794C1FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone here actually used the Ximian installer to install ONLY Evolution on a RedHat 7.2 system? If so, what were the results? Anything break? What if any issues would there be with using Mozilla 1.0.x ? Any issues with J-Pilot or the conduits breaking any other Palm Pilot connection methods? I use J-pilot now and plan to continue using it, and Moz 1.0.x I know I am asking a lot about this but I really will pull out some hair if I have to reinstall things, or stuff breaks. Thanks again, Sean McHenry Visit McHenry Technologies McHenry Technologies Hilliard, Ohio Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.2 ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C20E80.794C1FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
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If so, what were the results? > Anything break? [...] > I know I am asking a lot about this but I really will pull out some hair > if I have to reinstall things, or stuff breaks. Just relax and go ahead with the install. You will be told precisely what packages are being installed and if anything is being removed. As long as you have a valid rpm database, i.e. you don't use --nodeps or --force, you can quite easily go back to the Red Hat stuff. -Nevin From brzlin@eunet.yu Sat Jun 8 11:37:14 2002 From: brzlin@eunet.yu (Boris Jankovic) Date: 08 Jun 2002 12:37:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] Spell check In-Reply-To: <1023478041.4209.18.camel@hawkeye> References: <1023478041.4209.18.camel@hawkeye> Message-ID: <1023532620.2269.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm sure that there is smarter option but I remove them manually from the: ~/.aspell..pws But that's working only with words that I added. I don't know how to take something out from the default set of words. Well, on Red Hat 7.2. the documentation for aspell is in: /usr/share/doc/aspell-0.33.7/ but I never had time to read it. Boris > > Okay here is an interesting question. You know how you can tell > evolution to add a word to the dictionary? Well how do you take > something out of your dictionary?? > > Carl Parrish. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > From mildness@earthlink.net Sat Jun 8 13:22:38 2002 From: mildness@earthlink.net (Bill Burton) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 07:22:38 -0500 Subject: FW: [Users] INVITATION TO TREAT Message-ID: HAHAHAHAHA Very old scam. Beal -----Original Message----- From: users-admin@ximian.com [mailto:users-admin@ximian.com] on behalf of ENGR. EDWARD OBAZEE [edwardobazee@rediffmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 5:07 AM To: Users@ximian.com Subject: [Users] INVITATION TO TREAT ENGR. EDWARD OBAZEE LAGOS, NIGERIA 7TH JUNE 2002 For Your Kind Attention, It is my great pleasure to write this letter to you.firstly I must solicit your strictest confidence in this subject. This is by virtue of it's being utterly confidential and top secret. A member of the NIGERIA EXPORT PROMOTION COUNCIL (N.E.P.C.) who was part of the Federal Government Delegation to your country during a Trade Exhibition gave your particulars to me. From rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz Sat Jun 8 16:50:40 2002 From: rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz (Richard Barrington) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 03:50:40 +1200 Subject: FW: [Users] INVITATION TO TREAT Message-ID: <3d0227d0.3ae8.0@clear.net.nz> Yep, but note the new modified subject line, suggesting it's been legal machine. Why do people fall for this rubbish? > >HAHAHAHAHA Very old scam. > >Beal > From klaatubaradanikto@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 00:07:11 2002 From: klaatubaradanikto@hotmail.com (Gort) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 18:07:11 -0500 Subject: [Users] Galeon 1.2.5 (updated for Mozilla 1.0) plugins not working Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C20F17.4F735C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I assume that the problem is that Galeon is looking to = /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0/plugins/ when it should be looking to = /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ Is there a way to solve this problem, or should I just do a ln -s to = the /mozilla/plugins/ dir? ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C20F17.4F735C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I assume that the problem is that = Galeon is looking=20 to /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0/plugins/ when it should be looking to=20 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
 
Is there a way to solve this problem, = or should I=20 just do a ln -s to  the /mozilla/plugins/ = dir?
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C20F17.4F735C60-- From vincen@vincen.org Sun Jun 9 07:09:20 2002 From: vincen@vincen.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vinc=E8n?= Pujol) Date: 09 Jun 2002 08:09:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] Spam::Assasin with Evolution Email client ?? Message-ID: <1023602961.3442.0.camel@vincen.netsample.com> Did someone succeeded and then how to use Spam:Assasin perl script with Evolution ?? Thanks Vincn -- Vincn PUJOL Bayonne, France Visitez mon site Web http://www.vincen.org Visit my Wesbite http://www.vincen.org From grundy_b@yahoo.com Sun Jun 9 07:30:16 2002 From: grundy_b@yahoo.com (Barry Grundy) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 23:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] killing a rampant red-carpet Message-ID: <20020609063016.66025.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> I'm having difficulties with two things... First of all, evolution won't run. I get the "cannot initialize Xim Evo shell" error. I've run through all the suggestions in the Ximian knowledgebase (file locations, oaf-slay, etc.) and none make a difference. This all occured after I ran the rc update today (updated mozilla/galeon/evolution). I figured I'd check to see if I missed something on the evo snapshot, so I fired up rc and got a "cannot get lock on rpm database" error. A ps -ax shows: 30683 ? D 0:23 red-carpet I cannot kill this bugger for the life of me. Ive tried "HUP", killall, and even the dreaded "-9" with no luck. I'd rather not have to resort to a reboot. I imagine that a crash of rc during the updates (although it appeared to exit smoothly) might be the cause of my evo woes, so I'd like to try running it again, but I gotta kill this monkey first. Any ideas? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From a_maaseko1@hotvoice.com Sun Jun 9 17:47:56 2002 From: a_maaseko1@hotvoice.com (MRS.M.SESE-SEKO) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:47:56 -0700 Subject: [Users] URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED Message-ID: <200206090757.g597vrS31106@trna.ximian.com> FROM:MRS. M SESE-SEKO DEAR FRIEND, I AM MRS. SESE-SEKO WIDOW OF LATE PRESIDENT MOBUTU SESE-SEKO OF ZAIRE? NOW KNOWN AS DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO (DRC). I AM MOVED TO WRITE YOU THIS LETTER, THIS WAS IN CONFIDENCE CONSIDERING MY PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCE AND SITUATION. I ESCAPED ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO OF OUR SONS JAMES KONGOLO AND BASHER OUT OF DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO (DRC) TO ABIDJAN, COTE D'IVOIRE WHERE MY FAMILY AND I SETTLED, WHILE WE LATER MOVED TO SETTLED IN MORROCO WHERE MY HUSBAND LATER DIED OF CANCER DISEASE. HOWEVER DUE TO THIS SITUATION WE DECIDED TO CHANGED MOST OF MY HUSBAND'S BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEPOSITED IN SWISS BANK AND OTHER COUNTRIES INTO OTHER FORMS OF MONEY CODED FOR SAFE PURPOSE BECAUSE THE NEW HEAD OF STATE OF (DR) MR LAURENT KABILA HAS MADE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SWISS GOVERNMENT AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO FREEZE ALL MY LATE HUSBAND'S TREASURES DEPOSITED IN SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. HENCE MY CHILDREN AND I DECIDED LAYING LOW IN AFRICA TO STUDY THE SITUATION TILL WHEN THINGS GETS BETTER, LIKE NOW THAT PRESIDENT KABILA IS DEAD AND THE SON TAKING OVER (JOSEPH KABILA). ONE OF MY LATE HUSBAND'S CHATEAUX IN SOUTHERN FRANCE WAS CONFISCATED BY THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT, AND AS SUCH I HAD TO CHANGE MY IDENTITY SO THAT MY INVESTMENT WILL NOT BE TRACED AND CONFISCATED. I HAVE DEPOSITED THE SUM OF EIHGTEEN MILLION UNITED STATE DOLLARS(US$18,000,000,00.) WITH A SECURITY COMPANY , FOR SAFEKEEPING. THE FUNDS ARE SECURITY CODED TO PREVENT THEM FROM KNOWING THE CONTENT. WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS TO INDICATE YOUR INTEREST THAT YOU WILL ASSIST US BY RECEIVING THE MONEY ON OUR BEHALF.ACKNOWLEDGE THIS MESSAGE, SO THAT I CAN INTRODUCE YOU TO MY SON (JAMES ) WHO HAS THE OUT MODALITIES FOR THE CLAIM OF THE SAID FUNDS. I WANT YOU TO ASSIST IN INVESTING THIS MONEY, BUT I WILL NOT WANT MY IDENTITY REVEALED. I WILL ALSO WANT TO BUY PROPERTIES AND STOCK IN MULTI-NATIONAL OMPANIES AND TO ENGAGE IN OTHER SAFE AND NON-SPECULATIVE INVESTMENTS. MAY I AT THIS POINT EMPHASISE THE HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENTIALITY,WHICH THIS BUSINESS DEMANDS, AND HOPE YOU WILL NOT BETRAY THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE, WHICH I REPOSE IN YOU. IN CONCLUSION,IF YOU WANT TO ASSIST US , MY SON SHALL PUT YOU IN THE PICTURE OF THE BUSINESS,TELL YOU WHERE THE FUNDS ARE CURRENTLY BEING MAINTAINED AND ALSO DISCUSS OTHER MODALITIES INCLUDING REMUNERATION FOR YOUR SERVICES. FOR THIS REASON KINDLY FURNISH US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, AND YOUR PERSONAL TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBER FOR VALIDATION PROCESSES. BEST REGARDS, MRS M. SESE SEKO From raider@home.ro Sun Jun 9 15:26:20 2002 From: raider@home.ro (Raider) Date: 09 Jun 2002 17:26:20 +0300 Subject: [Users] Mouse with five buttons and two scrolls Message-ID: <1023632204.1994.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-A3oHOmlNnqyWbnxHxSri Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! I run MDK8.2 and I own an A4tech mouse. Quite nice as it has two scrolls and not just one. With windoze one scroll is for up-down movement and the other for left-right movement. It also has two extra buttons that are/should be programmable. It works great with Linux (Gnome) with only one problem - it works like a regular three button mouse with one scroll. The side (extra) buttons do nothing and the second scroll acts like I'd use the first one. I've seen there is a project for making available on Linux the "internet" keyboards. Is there something like that for mice like this one? --=-A3oHOmlNnqyWbnxHxSri Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA9A2NL8Gj5wxptC8oRAsIJAJ9NPC44Sse/UZmVI/Th8tKUYDd8JgCdEWLu +wnI3eX+lkmZO/6LY00R3gQ= =karU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-A3oHOmlNnqyWbnxHxSri-- From dill@umbi.umd.edu Sun Jun 9 16:46:41 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 09 Jun 2002 11:46:41 -0400 Subject: [Users] URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED In-Reply-To: <200206090757.g597vrS31106@trna.ximian.com> References: <200206090757.g597vrS31106@trna.ximian.com> Message-ID: <1023637603.1630.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Dear Mrs. M Sese-seko, In future, please turn off the CAPS LOCK on your keyboard--it's the key just above the Shift key on the left-hand side of the keyboard. I'm sure you're new to the internet and don't know any better, but in the internet world this is known as SHOUTING and thought to be extremely rude. You might want to just capitalize the first letter of every sentence and proper names, like Mrs. Sese-Seko for example. You might want to pick up a copy of the classic, "The Elements of Style" by Strunk and White and read through it a couple of times. "Roget's Thesaurus" would be handy, too, for picking up some colorful adjectives, though make sure that you pick adjectives that have the right connotation: Abuse of Roget's can be simply ghastly, as happens in Real Estate with such ridiculous terms as "scintillating amenities." I regret to inform you that I am already considering 27 other offers that I have lately received, mainly from the widows of oil barons that escaped from Nigeria. It is regrettable that this message was sent unsolicited to a large public mailing list, as it will be difficult to keep this a secret. I'll ask my pals at the FTC and FBI how best that can be accomplished--I'm sure they know how to keep a secret--but for now you should just hold tight and remove users@ximian.com from your mailing list. Of the hundreds of such messages that I receive, I give you 2 out of 5 stars for English grammar and 0 out of 5 stars for originality. The change of scenery from Nigeria to Congo is a nice touch, however. The plot is somewhat interesting, with the kids and the threat of death in there, but you need to "up the ante" and add at least one more plot twist to get that edge of originality. "How to Fix Fiction" by Peter Porosky might have some helpful hints for you. I think that you will find it most difficult to get people to believe your story, though there are apparently a lot of greedy suckers in the USA. You might consider trying Office 2002 with grammar checking turned on, though it's annoying how it gets picky about using "that" instead of "which"--very silly if you asked me. On the other hand, you do need the right kind of bad grammar to get that authentic "English is my second language" kind of sound. BTW How is Basher's hammer hanging these days? On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 12:47, MRS.M.SESE-SEKO wrote: > FROM:MRS. M SESE-SEKO > > DEAR FRIEND, > > I AM MRS. SESE-SEKO WIDOW OF LATE PRESIDENT MOBUTU > SESE-SEKO OF ZAIRE? NOW KNOWN AS DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC > OF CONGO (DRC). I AM MOVED TO WRITE YOU THIS LETTER, > THIS WAS IN CONFIDENCE CONSIDERING MY PRESENT > CIRCUMSTANCE AND SITUATION. > > I ESCAPED ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO OF OUR SONS > JAMES KONGOLO AND BASHER OUT OF DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF > CONGO (DRC) TO ABIDJAN, COTE D'IVOIRE WHERE MY FAMILY > AND I SETTLED, WHILE WE LATER MOVED TO SETTLED IN > MORROCO WHERE MY HUSBAND LATER DIED OF CANCER > DISEASE. HOWEVER DUE TO THIS SITUATION WE DECIDED TO > CHANGED MOST OF MY HUSBAND'S BILLIONS OF DOLLARS > DEPOSITED IN SWISS BANK AND OTHER COUNTRIES INTO OTHER > FORMS OF MONEY CODED FOR SAFE PURPOSE BECAUSE THE NEW > HEAD OF STATE OF (DR) MR LAURENT KABILA HAS MADE > ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SWISS GOVERNMENT AND OTHER > EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO FREEZE ALL MY LATE HUSBAND'S > TREASURES DEPOSITED IN SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. HENCE > MY CHILDREN AND I DECIDED LAYING LOW IN AFRICA TO > STUDY THE SITUATION TILL WHEN THINGS GETS BETTER, > LIKE NOW THAT PRESIDENT KABILA IS DEAD AND THE SON > TAKING OVER (JOSEPH KABILA). ONE OF MY LATE HUSBAND'S > CHATEAUX IN SOUTHERN FRANCE WAS CONFISCATED BY THE > FRENCH GOVERNMENT, AND AS SUCH I HAD TO CHANGE MY > IDENTITY SO THAT MY INVESTMENT WILL NOT BE TRACED AND > CONFISCATED. I HAVE DEPOSITED THE SUM OF EIHGTEEN > MILLION UNITED STATE DOLLARS(US$18,000,000,00.) WITH A > SECURITY COMPANY , FOR SAFEKEEPING. THE FUNDS ARE > SECURITY CODED TO PREVENT THEM FROM KNOWING THE > CONTENT. WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS TO INDICATE YOUR > INTEREST THAT YOU WILL ASSIST US BY RECEIVING > THE MONEY ON OUR BEHALF.ACKNOWLEDGE THIS MESSAGE, SO > THAT I CAN INTRODUCE YOU TO MY SON (JAMES ) WHO HAS > THE OUT MODALITIES FOR THE CLAIM OF THE SAID FUNDS. I > WANT YOU TO ASSIST IN INVESTING THIS MONEY, BUT > I WILL NOT WANT MY IDENTITY REVEALED. I WILL ALSO WANT > TO BUY PROPERTIES AND STOCK IN MULTI-NATIONAL OMPANIES > AND TO ENGAGE IN OTHER SAFE AND NON-SPECULATIVE > INVESTMENTS. MAY I AT THIS POINT EMPHASISE THE HIGH > LEVEL OF CONFIDENTIALITY,WHICH THIS BUSINESS DEMANDS, > AND HOPE YOU WILL NOT BETRAY THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE, > WHICH I REPOSE IN YOU. IN CONCLUSION,IF YOU WANT > TO ASSIST US , MY SON SHALL PUT YOU IN THE PICTURE OF > THE BUSINESS,TELL YOU WHERE THE FUNDS ARE CURRENTLY > BEING MAINTAINED AND ALSO DISCUSS OTHER MODALITIES > INCLUDING REMUNERATION FOR YOUR SERVICES. > > FOR THIS REASON KINDLY FURNISH US YOUR CONTACT > INFORMATION, AND YOUR PERSONAL TELEPHONE AND FAX > NUMBER FOR VALIDATION PROCESSES. > > BEST REGARDS, > > MRS M. SESE SEKO > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- From dill@umbi.umd.edu Sun Jun 9 17:01:27 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 09 Jun 2002 12:01:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED In-Reply-To: <1023637603.1630.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200206090757.g597vrS31106@trna.ximian.com> <1023637603.1630.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023638488.1630.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> What a pity. I fear that I responded too late, as the message bounced. All that advice on good writing was all for naught (in case it was too subtle for you, it was all tongue-in-cheek). If I can figure out a way to annotate messages with corrections, I might just post them on a website as a joke and "grade" them. --jonathan From dill@umbi.umd.edu Sun Jun 9 17:16:14 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 09 Jun 2002 12:16:14 -0400 Subject: [Users] 419 Scam Joke page Message-ID: <1023639375.1633.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> You all might get a kick out of this--2 guys who respond to these 419 scams posing as David Lee Roth, some really funny conversations... http://www.geocities.com/jaccountinfo/index.html -- Jonathan From rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz Sun Jun 9 18:00:36 2002 From: rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz (Richard Barrington) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:00:36 +1200 Subject: [Users] 419 Scam Joke page In-Reply-To: <1023639375.1633.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023639375.1633.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023642038.2844.2.camel@poorboy.skunkworks> nice. On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 04:16, Jonathan F. Dill wrote: > You all might get a kick out of this--2 guys who respond to these 419 > scams posing as David Lee Roth, some really funny conversations... > > http://www.geocities.com/jaccountinfo/index.html > > -- > Jonathan > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From joerg@braun-senden.de Sun Jun 9 21:25:32 2002 From: joerg@braun-senden.de (Joerg Braun) Date: 09 Jun 2002 22:25:32 +0200 Subject: [Users] Spam::Assasin with Evolution Email client ?? In-Reply-To: <1023602961.3442.0.camel@vincen.netsample.com> References: <1023602961.3442.0.camel@vincen.netsample.com> Message-ID: <1023654332.1189.13.camel@esme> --=-3w1bjhVE1dDc0OMqJPJd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Son, 2002-06-09 um 08.09 schrieb Vinc=E8n Pujol: > Did someone succeeded and then how to use Spam:Assasin perl script with > Evolution ?? Yes and No, means I use=20 1. fetchmail, which uses=20 2. sendmail for local delivery, which is configured to use=20 3. procmail , which instead uses only the lines :0fw | spamassassin -P as said in SpamAssassin Documentations. 4. Evolution uses POP3 (popper) for my machine=20 For my workstation it works fine, even with Perl loadtime. Be aware, that SpamAssassin needs still localization at least for the germa= n=20 language, but works great for the english and asian spam. Regards Joerg --=-3w1bjhVE1dDc0OMqJPJd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA9A7m8hqxhfIa0JV8RAvcSAKDm4E6FMNxiinTiQL45HULEsYU+QACg0mfD KpwGProeWBgp3KJ441OcOSk= =q9+K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-3w1bjhVE1dDc0OMqJPJd-- From jacklord_79@yahoo.com Mon Jun 10 04:51:53 2002 From: jacklord_79@yahoo.com (Jack Lord) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 20:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] mysterious new user accounts Message-ID: <20020610035153.68959.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> I just installed Mandrake 8.2 followed by Ximian GNOME Desktop. All seemed to go well. But now when I log on I have four choices: root, my account and two accounts I didn't set up: gica and sympa. Neither is present when I manage user accounts in GNOME or KDE. I know that both of these names are also used by linux apps but nonetheless it does make me a little paranoid as to where they've come from and why. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From thunder@ximian.com Mon Jun 10 14:08:39 2002 From: thunder@ximian.com (Dan Mills) Date: 10 Jun 2002 09:08:39 -0400 Subject: [Users] mysterious new user accounts In-Reply-To: <20020610035153.68959.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020610035153.68959.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1023714519.11972.3.camel@colt> --=-jeLCNw6BsMPWsxbE61eM Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They didn't come from Ximian GNOME. I suggest you do an audit of the system. -Dan On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 23:51, Jack Lord wrote: > I just installed Mandrake 8.2 followed by Ximian GNOME > Desktop. All seemed to go well. But now when I log > on I have four choices: root, my account and two > accounts I didn't set up: gica and sympa. Neither is > present when I manage user accounts in GNOME or KDE.=20 > I know that both of these names are also used by linux > apps but nonetheless it does make me a little paranoid > as to where they've come from and why. =20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --=20 "I could carve a better man out of a banana." --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" --=-jeLCNw6BsMPWsxbE61eM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA9BKTXo20Ufln7ZDARApMVAJ9Iy1trgKBrO5Iq39n5Kek4u5MD+QCgpq4Y gnwhpCQu3Ip5kkYJkvgR7iU= =K5jB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jeLCNw6BsMPWsxbE61eM-- From rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz Mon Jun 10 14:38:11 2002 From: rich_b_nz@clear.net.nz (Richard Barrington) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:38:11 +1200 Subject: [Users] mysterious new user accounts In-Reply-To: <20020610035153.68959.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020610035153.68959.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1023716294.3734.24.camel@poorboy.skunkworks> They are likely to be application user accounts to restrict privileges of their similarly named applications - as opposed to running as root. Sympa recommends making one, but my French is a bit rusty so I'm not sure about gica. They were probably created when you installed those packages. I'm guessing that when installing Ximian, those users were added to gdms list of non-hidden users. Do the system audit to be sure, and if it's ok you can probably just hide them using the gdm settings. On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 15:51, Jack Lord wrote: > I just installed Mandrake 8.2 followed by Ximian GNOME > Desktop. All seemed to go well. But now when I log > on I have four choices: root, my account and two > accounts I didn't set up: gica and sympa. Neither is > present when I manage user accounts in GNOME or KDE. > I know that both of these names are also used by linux > apps but nonetheless it does make me a little paranoid > as to where they've come from and why. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dill@umbi.umd.edu Mon Jun 10 15:12:31 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 10 Jun 2002 10:12:31 -0400 Subject: [Users] Re: OT: mysterious new user accounts In-Reply-To: <20020610035153.68959.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020610035153.68959.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1023718354.1981.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Now let's jump to any conclusions about what these user accounts might be. There is some very simple research that you can do using the rpm command and searching the web. For starters, get the home directory for each account from passwd and try to see what package the homedir belongs to: rpm -q -i -f {home-directory} From a search for "sympa" on freshmeat.net, I find that sympa is a mailing list manager program, core development in France, so it would be no surprise that it would show up in Mandrake. Go to freshmeat.net and do a search on sympa for more info. Also try rpm -q -a | fgrep -i sympa I'd bet that you don't need it, unless you were running sympa before, so you can probably safely "rpm -e" the sympa package. It's also possible that sympa itself is not installed, but the sympa passwd entry comes out of the "filesystem" package or something like that. From yahoo.com search on "linux gica" I find that freeGICA is an open source ERP system project, also in France, so it would be no surprise if that got into Mandrake either. Try rpm -q -a | fgrep -i gica My bet is that you selected to "Install Everything." In any case, I think this discussion is off-topic and not really related to Ximian GNOME. On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 23:51, Jack Lord wrote: > I just installed Mandrake 8.2 followed by Ximian GNOME > Desktop. All seemed to go well. But now when I log > on I have four choices: root, my account and two > accounts I didn't set up: gica and sympa. Neither is > present when I manage user accounts in GNOME or KDE. > I know that both of these names are also used by linux > apps but nonetheless it does make me a little paranoid > as to where they've come from and why. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Jonathan F. Dill UMBI CARB From targetemailextractor@btamail.net.cn Mon Jun 10 15:35:55 2002 From: targetemailextractor@btamail.net.cn (targetemailextractor@btamail.net.cn) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:35:55 +0800 Subject: [Users] ADV: Direct Email Blaster, email addresses extractor,maillist verify, maillist manager ........... Message-ID: <200206101343.g5ADhdS13909@trna.ximian.com> =3Chtml=3E =3Chead=3E =3C=2Fhead=3E =3Cbody=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =A1=A1 =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cstrong=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#ff0080=22 size=3D=224=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3EDirect Email Blaster=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cfont size=3D=222=22=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Cb=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#006600=22=3E=3Ci=3EThe program will send mail at the rate of over 1=2C 000 e-mails per minute=2E =3B=3C=2Fi=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E Legal and Fast sending bulk emails =3B=3Cbr=3E =3Cfont color=3D=22#006600=22=3E=3Ci=3EBuilt in SMTP server =3B=3C=2Fi=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E Have Return Path =3B=3Cbr=3E Can Check Mail Address =3B=3Cbr=3E =3Cfont color=3D=22#006600=22=3E=3Ci=3EMake Error Send Address List=28 Remove or Send Again=29 =3B=3C=2Fi=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E Support multi-threads=2E =3B=3Cbr=3E Support multi-smtp servers=2E =3B=3Cbr=3E Manages your opt-in E-Mail Lists =3B=3Cbr=3E Offers an easy-to-use interface! =3B=3Cbr=3E Easy to configure and use =3B=3C=2Fb=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Ca href=3D=22http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Ewldinfo=2Ecom=2Fbj=5Fdownload=2Fedeb=5Fset=2Ezip=22=3E=3Cstrong=3EDownload Now=3C=2Fstrong=3E=3C=2Fa=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cstrong=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#ff0080=22 size=3D=224=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3EMaillist Verify=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3EMaillist Verify is intended for e-mail addresses and mail lists verifying=2E The main task is to determine which of addresses in the mail list are dead=2E The program is oriented=2C basically=2C on programmers which have their own mail lists to inform their users about new versions of their programs=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3EThe program works on the same algorithm as ISP mail systems do=2E Mail servers addresses for specified address are 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Blaster =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3EExpress Email Blaster =3B is a very fast=2C powerful yet simple to use email sender=2E Utilizing multiple threads=2Fconnections=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3Band multiple SMTP servers your emails will be sent out fast and easily=2E There are User Information=2C Attach Files=2C =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E Address and Mail Logs four tabbed area for the E-mails details for sending=2E About 25 SMTP servers come with the =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E demo version=2C and users may Add and Delete SMTP servers=2E About =3Cfont color=3D=22#008000=22=3E=3Cb=3E60=2C000=3C=2Fb=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E E-mails will be sent out per hour=2E"=3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cstrong=3E=3Ca href=3D=22http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Ewldinfo=2Ecom=2Fbj=5Fdownload=2Fbeeb=5Fset=2Ezip=22=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3EDownload Now=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fa=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cstrong=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#ff0080=22 size=3D=224=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3EExpress Email Address Extractor=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cfont size=3D=224=22=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#008000=22=3EThis program is the most efficient=2C easy to use email address collector available on the =3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#008000=22=3E =3Binternet! =3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#000000=22 size=3D=223=22=3EBeijing Express Email Address Extractor =28ExpressEAE=29 is designed to extract=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#000000=22 size=3D=223=22=3E =3Be-mail addresses from web-pages on the Internet =28using HTTP protocols=29 =2EExpressEAE=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#000000=22 size=3D=223=22=3E =3Bsupports operation through many proxy-server and works very fast=2C as it is able of =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#000000=22 size=3D=223=22=3E loading several pages simultaneously=2C and requires very few resources=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#000000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3EWith it=2C you will be able to=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cfont size=3D=222=22=3E =3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3Euse targeted searches to crawl the world wide web=2C extracting =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#000000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3E thousands of clean=2C fresh email addresses=2E Ably Email address Extractor is unlike other =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#000000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3E address collecting programs=2C which limit you to one or two search engines and are unable=3C=2Ffont=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#000000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3Bto do auto searches HUGE address=2E Most of them collect a high percentage of 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interface!=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fli=3E =3C=2Ful=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cstrong=3E=3Ca href=3D=22http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Ewldinfo=2Ecom=2Fbj=5Fdownload=2Feead=5Fset=2Ezip=22=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#008000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3EDownload Now=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fa=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cstrong=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#ff0080=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3EExpress Maillist Manager=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cfont size=3D=222=22=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=223=22=3EThis program was designed to be a complement to the =3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#800080=22 size=3D=223=22=3EDirect Email Blaster =3B =3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=223=22=3Eand =3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#800080=22 size=3D=223=22=3EEmail Blaster =3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=223=22=3Esuite of bulk email software programs=2E Its purpose is to organize your email lists in order to be more =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=223=22=3E effective with your email marketing campaign=2E Some of its features include=3A=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cb=3E=3Cfont color=3D=22#008000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3E‿=3BCombine several lists into one file=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E =3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3E‿=3BSplit up larger lists to make them more manageable=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E =3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3E‿=3BRemove addresses from file=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E =3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3E‿=3BManual editing=2C adding=2C and deleting of addresses=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E =3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3E‿=3BAbility to auto clean lists=2C that is=2C remove any duplicate or unwanted addresses=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3Cbr=3E =3Cfont size=3D=223=22=3E‿=3BMaintain all your address lists within the program so you no =3B longer need to keep all your=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fb=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cb=3E =3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#008000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3Blists saved as separate text files=2E=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fb=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cstrong=3E=3Ca href=3D=22http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Ewldinfo=2Ecom=2Fbj=5Fdownload=2Fbemm=5Fset=2Ezip=22=3E=3Cfont size=3D=223=22 color=3D=22#008000=22 face=3D=22Arial=22=3EDownload Now=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fa=3E=3C=2Fstrong=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cp=3E=A1=A1=3C=2Fp=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3Eif you want to remove your email=2C please send email to =3Ca href=3D=22mailto=3Atargetemailremoval=40btamail=2Enet=2Ecn=22=3Etargetemailremoval=40btamail=2Enet=2Ecn=3C=2Fa=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =3Cfont face=3D=22Arial=22=3E =3B=3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3Cdiv=3E =A1=A1 =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fdiv=3E =3C=2Ffont=3E=3C=2Fnobr=3E=3C=2Ffont=3E =3C=2Fbody=3E =3C=2Fhtml=3E From webmaster@psysolutions.com Mon Jun 10 16:29:27 2002 From: webmaster@psysolutions.com (Russ Haskett) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:29:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Users] virtual account hell -help please Message-ID: <4122.192.168.0.32.1023722967.squirrel@mail.psysolutions.com> does anyone know how to make evolution hit a virtual email account? we just switched our mail server to a virtual email server to handle different domains and my evolution is now puking on me. it looks like it is appending my servername to the end of my username which is hoses things upexample error: username@psysolutions.com@mail.psysolutions.com invalid username any help would be appreciated. thanks, -russ From webmaster@psysolutions.com Mon Jun 10 16:29:22 2002 From: webmaster@psysolutions.com (Russ Haskett) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Users] virtual account hell -help please Message-ID: <4119.192.168.0.32.1023722962.squirrel@mail.psysolutions.com> does anyone know how to make evolution hit a virtual email account? we just switched our mail server to a virtual email server to handle different domains and my evolution is now puking on me. it looks like it is appending my servername to the end of my username which is hoses things upexample error: username@psysolutions.com@mail.psysolutions.com invalid username any help would be appreciated. thanks, -russ From mrsoto@yahoo.com Mon Jun 10 16:58:12 2002 From: mrsoto@yahoo.com (Manuel Soto) Date: 10 Jun 2002 11:58:12 -0400 Subject: [Users] Are you working on gtk2 library Message-ID: <1023724694.31367.19.camel@dt01.myhome.org> I'm installing Eclipse ide but have a lot of problems because the gtk2 prerequisite. Usually I only install or upgrade from Red Carpet because the easy way to check dependences and installing/removing required packages. The question is: Are you working on gtk2 2.x library? Thanks, Manuel Soto From rpalmeri@mindspring.com Mon Jun 10 16:57:18 2002 From: rpalmeri@mindspring.com (Russ Palmeri) Date: 10 Jun 2002 11:57:18 -0400 Subject: [Users] Nigerian Scam Message-ID: <1023724639.1217.67.camel@linux> Since this scam keeps reappearing on the list, I hope this won't be too off - topic. For some great info on the Nigerian Scam, check out http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ -- ********************************** Russ Palmeri Asheville, NC *********************************** Linux- resistance is futile From garry@pdxnet.com Mon Jun 10 17:31:04 2002 From: garry@pdxnet.com (garry@pdxnet.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] Evolution Database Problem Message-ID: <200206101631.JAA04172@wally.pdxnet.com> Well, I have subscribed to this list in the hopes of getting an answer. I am also getting the "Configuration Database not found" when attempting to start up evolution. After reading through the archives there seems to be 2 answers. 1. It's a wierd hardware interaction problem. If this is true then I must be using a lot of wierd hardware since this is happening on several different systems. 2. You need to set your clock to the correct date and time. I have checked the date on all affected machines are it is correct. Any ideas? If I can't find a solution very soon I am going to have to give up on evolution and go back to mozilla. P.S. Yes I have run oaf-slay and even in fact rebooted several times. Very frustrating! From dill@umbi.umd.edu Mon Jun 10 18:58:37 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 10 Jun 2002 13:58:37 -0400 Subject: [Users] Nigerian Scam In-Reply-To: <1023724639.1217.67.camel@linux> References: <1023724639.1217.67.camel@linux> Message-ID: <1023731924.2426.1.camel@amanda.carb.nist.gov> The most disturbing thing, from reading the scam joke pages, is that apparently if they think they can do it, these guys will try to get you to go to Amsterdam, London, or an African country and "meet you at the airport" presumably to kidnap you and extort money from your family. On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 11:57, Russ Palmeri wrote: > Since this scam keeps reappearing on the list, I hope this won't be too > off - topic. > For some great info on the Nigerian Scam, check out > > http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ > -- > > ********************************** > Russ Palmeri > Asheville, NC > *********************************** > Linux- resistance is futile > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Jonathan F. Dill UMBI CARB From scott@therubberroom.org Mon Jun 10 19:03:24 2002 From: scott@therubberroom.org (Scott Tyson) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] Nigerian Scam In-Reply-To: <1023724639.1217.67.camel@linux> References: <1023724639.1217.67.camel@linux> Message-ID: <41373.199.164.56.5.1023732204.squirrel@www.therubberroom.org> I'll add this little nugget. The Nigerians are also heavy into identity theft. I know first hand becuase my identity was stolen back in 1998 by a Nigerian gang working out of Irvine. My case went from the Irvine Police up to the FBI due to the large sums of money involved. Grrrr!!! -- Scott Tyson IQC: 125581 http://www.therubberroom.org From m-herron@northwestern.edu Mon Jun 10 19:11:24 2002 From: m-herron@northwestern.edu (Michael Herron) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:11:24 -0500 Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? Message-ID: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> Hello. Last Friday I updated evolution and a few other things using red carpet. Now when I try to start evolution I get the message: "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database not found." Any thoughts on getting around this error? thanks - michael From DaDaDom@web.de Mon Jun 10 19:24:09 2002 From: DaDaDom@web.de (Dominik Sandjaja) Date: 10 Jun 2002 20:24:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? In-Reply-To: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> References: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <1023733450.1550.13.camel@Mindboggling> Hi, was Mozilla 1.0.0 one of the "few other things"? If yes, than try the solutions mentioned in the [Evolution]-Mailinglist: From: Jeffrey Stedfast if you installed mozilla 1.0, then that's the problem. add /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 to your library path and things will work again. Jeff On Sat, 2002-06-08 at 09:38, Muralidhar Ganga wrote: > Hi, > > Running Redhat 7.2 with Ximian GNOME. > > Updated Evolution 1.0.6.99 through RedCarpet. > > When I start the evolution it complains as: > > "Cannot initialize the Evolution shell: Configuration Database not found" > > Any ideas. > > Thanks > /Murali HTH Dominik From ian@deepsky.com Mon Jun 10 19:25:39 2002 From: ian@deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? In-Reply-To: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: As root, run: oaf-slay Ian ------------ Dr Ian Firla Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Michael Herron wrote: > Hello. > > Last Friday I updated evolution and a few other things using red carpet. > > Now when I try to start evolution I get the message: > > "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database > not found." > > Any thoughts on getting around this error? > > thanks - > > michael > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From m-herron@northwestern.edu Mon Jun 10 19:41:06 2002 From: m-herron@northwestern.edu (Michael Herron) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:41:06 -0500 Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? In-Reply-To: <1023733450.1550.13.camel@Mindboggling> References: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> <1023733450.1550.13.camel@Mindboggling> Message-ID: <15620.62146.233748.7038@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> Dominik, > was Mozilla 1.0.0 one of the "few other things"? If yes, than try the > solutions mentioned in the [Evolution]-Mailinglist: Indeed it was. > From: Jeffrey Stedfast > > if you installed mozilla 1.0, then that's the problem. > > add /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 to your library path and things will work > again. What environment variable should I be modifying? michael From DaDaDom@web.de Mon Jun 10 19:47:41 2002 From: DaDaDom@web.de (Dominik Sandjaja) Date: 10 Jun 2002 20:47:41 +0200 Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? In-Reply-To: <15620.62146.233748.7038@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> References: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> <1023733450.1550.13.camel@Mindboggling> <15620.62146.233748.7038@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> Message-ID: <1023734861.3726.0.camel@Mindboggling> Am Mon, 2002-06-10 um 20.41 schrieb Michael Herron: > Indeed it was. > > > From: Jeffrey Stedfast > > > > if you installed mozilla 1.0, then that's the problem. > > > > add /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 to your library path and things will work > > again. > > What environment variable should I be modifying? I added the path to /etc/ld.so.conf and made a ldconf after that. Dominik From m-herron@northwestern.edu Mon Jun 10 19:52:06 2002 From: m-herron@northwestern.edu (Michael Herron) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:52:06 -0500 Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? In-Reply-To: <1023734861.3726.0.camel@Mindboggling> References: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> <1023733450.1550.13.camel@Mindboggling> <15620.62146.233748.7038@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> <1023734861.3726.0.camel@Mindboggling> Message-ID: <15620.62806.968806.650338@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> Dominik Sandjaja writes: > Am Mon, 2002-06-10 um 20.41 schrieb Michael Herron: > > > Indeed it was. > > > > > From: Jeffrey Stedfast > > > > > > if you installed mozilla 1.0, then that's the problem. > > > > > > add /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 to your library path and things will work > > > again. > > > > What environment variable should I be modifying? > > I added the path to /etc/ld.so.conf and made a ldconf after that. Ok, now I have [herron@brahms ]$ cat /etc/ld.so.conf /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt-2.3.1/lib /usr/lib/wine /usr/lib/sane /usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 [herron@brahms ]$ What do you mean by "made a ldconf?" michael From ayersmj@structuresoflife.com Mon Jun 10 19:53:58 2002 From: ayersmj@structuresoflife.com (Michael J. Ayers) Date: 10 Jun 2002 11:53:58 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ximian Mozilla 1.0 apparently breaks Evolution Message-ID: <1023735238.9118.4.camel@baker.structuresoflife.com> I upgraded via red-carpet today and when it installed Moz 1.0 for ximian it broke wombat....which evolution needs to run. Specifically it cant find a library file that normally comes with mozilla-nspr that wombat requires to run. Has anyone else run into this problem and if so...how did you fix it? Michael Ayers From Kyle_Davenport@compusa.com Mon Jun 10 19:47:55 2002 From: Kyle_Davenport@compusa.com (Kyle Davenport) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:47:55 -0600 Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? Message-ID: That happened to me when lost I libnsp* in mozilla...but I did not update, and I ran oaf-slay, and still my evolution would show the splash screen and icons filling in, but then nothing. Bunch of evolution processes were running but no error messages and no display. I tried about 5 times before giving up and rebooting (ooh, I hate that!), and then it started normally. Ian Firla om> cc: users@ximian.com Sent by: Subject: Re: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to users-admin@xi fix? mian.com 06/10/02 12:25 PM As root, run: oaf-slay On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Michael Herron wrote: > Last Friday I updated evolution and a few other things using red carpet. > > Now when I try to start evolution I get the message: > > "Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database > not found." From DaDaDom@web.de Mon Jun 10 20:01:28 2002 From: DaDaDom@web.de (Dominik Sandjaja) Date: 10 Jun 2002 21:01:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] updated evolution, now it will not start; how to fix? In-Reply-To: <15620.62806.968806.650338@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> References: <3D04EBCC.3070800@northwestern.edu> <1023733450.1550.13.camel@Mindboggling> <15620.62146.233748.7038@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> <1023734861.3726.0.camel@Mindboggling> <15620.62806.968806.650338@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> Message-ID: <1023735688.3726.3.camel@Mindboggling> Hi, [snip] > What do you mean by "made a ldconf?" It means, that you run "/sbin/ldconfig" as root. This command rereads ld.so.conf and applies the new path. HTH Dominik From m-herron@northwestern.edu Mon Jun 10 20:08:51 2002 From: m-herron@northwestern.edu (Michael Herron) Date: 10 Jun 2002 14:08:51 -0500 Subject: [Users] Ximian Mozilla 1.0 apparently breaks Evolution In-Reply-To: <1023735238.9118.4.camel@baker.structuresoflife.com> References: <1023735238.9118.4.camel@baker.structuresoflife.com> Message-ID: <1023736132.17219.2.camel@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> I just had this problem and here is the solution (from Dominik Sandjaja) Add /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 to /etc/ld.so.conf run /sbin/ldconfig as root. You might want to run oaf-slay before the ldconfig but I am not sure if this is necessary. mh On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 13:53, Michael J. Ayers wrote: > I upgraded via red-carpet today and when it installed Moz 1.0 for ximian > it broke wombat....which evolution needs to run. Specifically it cant > find a library file that normally comes with mozilla-nspr that wombat > requires to run. Has anyone else run into this problem and if so...how > did you fix it? > > Michael Ayers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From Robert.Azar@hp.com Mon Jun 10 20:45:07 2002 From: Robert.Azar@hp.com (Robert Azar) Date: 10 Jun 2002 14:45:07 -0500 Subject: [Users] Evolution Database Problem Message-ID: <1023738313.3988.5.camel@AZAR02> I had the same problem and none of the current solutions worked for me, I did however manage to get Evo to run again doing the following steps. cp ~/evolution ~/evolution-bak rpm -e evolution-1.0.6.99-snap.ximian.200206071341 rpm -i evolution-1.0.5-1.ximian.5.i386.rpm cp ~/evolution-bak ~/evolution (This kept all my Contact/Tasks/Draft...etc data intact) launch evolution (I did have to reconfigure my mail account) I tried updating to the current snapshot but only the summary will load with current snap none of the other services loaded successfully. I still have all the other updates I may try earlier versions. From dill@umbi.umd.edu Mon Jun 10 21:43:46 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 10 Jun 2002 16:43:46 -0400 Subject: [Users] Nigerian Scam In-Reply-To: <41373.199.164.56.5.1023732204.squirrel@www.therubberroom.org> References: <1023724639.1217.67.camel@linux> <41373.199.164.56.5.1023732204.squirrel@www.therubberroom.org> Message-ID: <1023741826.2420.58.camel@amanda.carb.nist.gov> So I guess if you reply to one of these messages, you should really use a bogus name, like David Lee Roth, and try to cover your tracks. On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 14:03, Scott Tyson wrote: > I'll add this little nugget. The Nigerians are also heavy into identity > theft. I know first hand becuase my identity was stolen back in 1998 by a > Nigerian gang working out of Irvine. My case went from the Irvine Police > up to the FBI due to the large sums of money involved. Grrrr!!! > -- > Scott Tyson > IQC: 125581 > http://www.therubberroom.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Jonathan F. Dill UMBI CARB From mtgordon@ximian.com Mon Jun 10 22:03:27 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 10 Jun 2002 17:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] openoffice question - character mapping In-Reply-To: <1023501072.24799.39.camel@ceora> References: <1023501072.24799.39.camel@ceora> Message-ID: <1023743033.22890.57.camel@metric> Not all dashes are created equal. The dash may be an emdash or an endash, strictly speaking a different character, and one that isn't necessarily present in the font you're using (or recognized by the app you're using - it's hard to say which without further investigation). Word tends not to create the generic dash character, IIRC, but instead leans towards the emdash and endash, in the grand SmartQuotes tradition. -Mark Gordon On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 21:51, John Weber wrote: > Hi, > > When I open *.doc files it seems that a dash('-') is displayed as a > question mark ('?'). Is there a way to fix this? I notice this in > abiword also. Applixware seems to get it right. Some font setting for > gnome? > > Thanks, > John > > -- > John S. Weber > jweber@math.cudenver.edu > http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From jason@jnj.org Mon Jun 10 22:28:33 2002 From: jason@jnj.org (Jason) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:28:33 -0500 Subject: [Users] adding menus to the panel Message-ID: <20020610212833.GA17475@jnj.org> howdy I'm a new Gnome and Ximian user, and reading through the docs for adding menus to the panel, it says I should be able to click the global menu (gnome foot icon in vanilla gnome), right-click on a menu title, and select "add to panel". Right-clicking doesn't seem to do anything on any menu. I can, however, add menus to the panel by right-clicking the panel and choosing panel->add, but it seems to be rather restrictive... also, I'd like to add menus to the top panel with a text dropdown (like "Program", "System", or "Help"), but with text of my own choosing. Is there a way to do this? -- Jason Burnett jason@jnj.org ~ No witty signature available at this time ~ From oachler@ucsd.edu Mon Jun 10 22:53:38 2002 From: oachler@ucsd.edu (Ofer Achler) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] Evolution File Locking problem Message-ID: Hello, i've been searching online for a while about a problem i've been having and hit this mailing list. It seems this problem has occured before but not in my setup... The problem: I get: "Error while Timed out trying to get lock file on /dosc/Program Files/Netscape/Users/anglete/Mail/Inbox" Background: I'm running Evolution 1.0.2, I'm trying to make a soft link from the local mbox file of evolution to my old netscape windows file (soft link) and it seems to not be able to lock the file. I read that it could be the file format, so i copied it onto the ext3 partition and linked it, it works fine that way. I'm wondering how to attack this as i would like to use both windows and linux for my email. This is how the fstab loads the /dosc directory: /dev/hda1 /dosc vfat defaults,umask=0000 0 and an ls -l of the Inbox file -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35361717 Jun 10 14:17 Inbox greatly secure, i know, but i just want it to work =) Thank you very much for your help =) From oachler@ucsd.edu Mon Jun 10 22:55:28 2002 From: oachler@ucsd.edu (Ofer Achler) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] Err, More info Message-ID: I meant i'm running Evolution v 1.0.5 From dcurry@cariocas.com Tue Jun 11 00:28:46 2002 From: dcurry@cariocas.com (Daniel Curry) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:28:46 -0700 Subject: [Users] Evolution Sync Message-ID: <731E36372B5FD248AF790189519A32C180E0F5@mailhub.cgtime.com> I am interested in writing an app to permit syncing between Evolution and the Agenda PDA. Can someone give me pointers to where I can find the necessary information for the Evolution file formats, and or suggested function calls to add, rather than replace all of the evolution PIM databases? Thanks Daniel Curry IT Manager Cariocas 625 Second Street Suite 201 San Francisco, CA 94107 ph: 415-348-6516 fx: 415-348-6505 cell: 510-579-6680 "If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z, X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein From marwo264@student.liu.se Tue Jun 11 01:56:42 2002 From: marwo264@student.liu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg) Date: 11 Jun 2002 02:56:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] Weather Service, Meeting Summary Message-ID: <1023757003.1484.9.camel@k27> Hi... Thanks for finally a good usable program.. 3 Little somethings... What is the Weather Service stuff based on? It should be based on METAR I think cause it's used on all civilian airports and can be reached from multiple locations.. Thus if I wanted my local airport I just punch in their Station Code or search for them... As it is now the weather service and almost all the other sites too seem to be directed at an American public. I know for a fact that 80% of the ppl living on this earth aint from America, so how about some Internationalization? I do think you have done a great job with the translation of the program though.. but there's still missing a W in the Contacts List! Wouldn't it be nice to have a Print Meeting Summary? preferably a choice to PostScript.... Which Lists Meetings with the summary and only prints meetings, not empty days. That's also a thing that buggs me.. why doesn't the meeting preview show any relevant information except for the headline?? I mean I have to open the meetings to find out where they are and if I wrote some comments on them... And writing all that as a Subject for a meeting is working around a design flaw ... 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--boundary42-- From lennard.bakker@cmg.nl Tue Jun 11 08:33:17 2002 From: lennard.bakker@cmg.nl (Lennard Bakker) Date: 11 Jun 2002 09:33:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Print error with evolution Message-ID: <1023780799.1487.1.camel@aeolus> When i want to print something with evolution, i get an error. The error message is "Cannot allocate default font for printing". Did i miss something, an config error, or something not installed? Lennard From jhon@brussels.sgi.com Tue Jun 11 11:35:26 2002 From: jhon@brussels.sgi.com (Jhon Masschelein) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:35:26 +0200 Subject: [Users] red-carpet on redhat 7.1 not working - DNS failure Message-ID: <20013E69DC5CD61184BF00A0C9E4B66604F0CC@nt-brussels.brussels.sgi.com> Hi, Last week, after a long time, I used red-carpet to get my system up to date again. I used to have the problem where you had to start red-carpet from the command line, or it would crash. One of the things that got updated was red-carpet, and now it does not crash anymore. (it's v 1.3.2-1 now) Since yesterday however, I can no longer connect... When I start red-carpet, it starts the "downloading channel list, hangs for a bit and then gives the error page with: URL http://red-carpet.ximian.com/channels.xml.gz Error: Can't connect - DNS failure or connection refused. If I go to that url with my Opera web browser, I can get the channel list. The proxy setup (I'm behind a fire wall) of Opera and red-carpet is identical... Anybody any idea? I looked at the Ximian site, but found no help. thank you, jhon From dill@umbi.umd.edu Tue Jun 11 14:05:42 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 11 Jun 2002 09:05:42 -0400 Subject: [Users] mailman at ximian and spam Message-ID: <1023800744.2843.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Who's maintaining mailman at Ximian? My offer still stands to help w/ upgrade to a current version 2.1. You're still running ancient 1.0 which is at least a couple years old and lacking some basic spam controls. That would cut out most of the crap that's getting to the lists lately, or at least going into the list configs and adding some rules. It's very easy to apply it to all of the lists--you just use config_list to make a template in python and use the config_list script to apply it to all of your lists. -- Jonathan F. Dill UMBI CARB From webmaster@psysolutions.com Tue Jun 11 15:22:22 2002 From: webmaster@psysolutions.com (Russ Haskett) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:22:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Users] virtual domains Message-ID: <4420.192.168.0.32.1023805342.squirrel@mail.psysolutions.com> is it possible to use evolution with virtual domains? From dstrozzi@MIT.EDU Tue Jun 11 15:28:18 2002 From: dstrozzi@MIT.EDU (David Strozzi) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] installing gnome abruptly crashes Message-ID: Hi, I'm following the gnome install directions from www.gnome.org, which use links (or lynx) and ximian. Everything seems to be going fine, and then suddenly the installer quits. It downloads all the packages, and about halfway through verifying them it just stops and leaves links. Below is what appears in the xterm I started links from. I'm using redhat 7.2, but I must admit I've royally screwed things up on my system. In particular, I started removing the gnome packages that originally were on my system (since I was running out of HD space while compiling gcc, and at the time was a KDE fan. I repent the error of my ways!) I can send you the logfile, but it doesn't seem helpful. It has the seem thing about 30 times, and then something which seems like good news: ( rc_verify_md5: good md5 rc_verify_size: good size check ) Either way, the terminal after it quits: go-gnome: 4.0.6 (Thu May 30 12:36:01 EDT 2002) I am now fetching the Ximian Desktop graphical installer. This can take a few minutes, so please be patient. http://red-carpet.ximian.com/installers/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386.gz (2241K) /var/cache/redcarpet/ins [########################] 2241K | 177.46K/s 2295158 bytes transferred in 12.63 sec (177.45k/sec) Installer extracted into /var/cache/redcarpet/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386 Log of install will be in /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 sh: line 1581: 1208 Segmentation fault (core dumped) GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=1 $INSTALLER -m "$@" >$LOGFILE 2>&1 The installer appears to have encountered an error. Please check /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 for details. Cleaning up temporary files... done. From Rick Friedman" My question is... how did you upgrade Mozilla to version 1.0 through Red-Carpet?? I don't see version 1.0 listed anywhere in Red-Carpet! Rick On 10 Jun 2002 11:53:58 -0700, "Michael J. Ayers" said: > I upgraded via red-carpet today and when it installed Moz 1.0 for > ximian > it broke wombat....which evolution needs to run. Specifically it cant > find a library file that normally comes with mozilla-nspr that wombat > requires to run. Has anyone else run into this problem and if so...how > did you fix it? > > Michael Ayers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Rick Friedman rickfriedman@myfastmail.com Registered Linux user: #269579 Einstein: "God does not play dice." Bohr: "Stop telling God what to do." -- http://fastmail.fm Quick as a click From ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com Tue Jun 11 15:56:59 2002 From: ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com (Thomas Spuhler) Date: 11 Jun 2002 07:56:59 -0700 Subject: [Users] Spam::Assasin with Evolution Email client ?? In-Reply-To: <1023654332.1189.13.camel@esme> References: <1023602961.3442.0.camel@vincen.netsample.com> <1023654332.1189.13.camel@esme> Message-ID: <1023807421.3187.1004.camel@international.tusonix.com> --=-omnP4lBaHnvqzx9mTKeN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a lot for the hint. I installed it with the two lines in promailrc as told below and it seems to work great. (I am using postfix instead of sendmail) --=20 Best regards Thomas J. Spuhler On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 13:25, Joerg Braun wrote: > Am Son, 2002-06-09 um 08.09 schrieb Vinc=E8n Pujol: > > Did someone succeeded and then how to use Spam:Assasin perl script with > > Evolution ?? >=20 > Yes and No, >=20 > means I use=20 > 1. fetchmail, which uses=20 > 2. sendmail for local delivery, which is configured to use=20 > 3. procmail , which instead uses only the lines > :0fw > | spamassassin -P > as said in SpamAssassin Documentations. > 4. Evolution uses POP3 (popper) for my machine=20 >=20 > For my workstation it works fine, even with Perl loadtime. >=20 > Be aware, that SpamAssassin needs still localization at least for the ger= man=20 > language, but works great for the english and asian spam. >=20 > Regards > Joerg --=-omnP4lBaHnvqzx9mTKeN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA9Bg+6RNTJyxguVFsRAnOVAJ9odJCDe2q/0r6eRq/wBkD5j8E/6wCeKZty Vffo06rHgD8C0xIUGK90DBw= =/utO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-omnP4lBaHnvqzx9mTKeN-- From David.Sheen@alcatel.com Tue Jun 11 16:57:31 2002 From: David.Sheen@alcatel.com (DAVID SHEEN) Date: 11 Jun 2002 08:57:31 -0700 Subject: [Users] Cannot login to Gnome session References: <200206111336.g5BDaKS26400@trna.ximian.com> Message-ID: <3D061DEB.A88F27F@alcatel.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------212744938CED91616FB507D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just installed Ximian Gnome yesterday, without any error messages. After rebooting, I entered my username and password and specified 'Gnome' as my session type. After clicking 'OK', my screen goes black, showing only the mouse pointer, for ~3 minutes. Eventually, my OpenWindows environment comes up. I am running Solaris 8 02/02 on a SUN Ultra 5 Workstation. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. thanks David --------------212744938CED91616FB507D8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="david.sheen.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for David Sheen Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="david.sheen.vcf" begin:vcard n:Sheen;David tel;work:internal : 722-3253 external : (604) 453-3253 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:
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adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:david.sheen@alcatel.com fn:David Sheen end:vcard --------------212744938CED91616FB507D8-- From mike@dvfmv.com Tue Jun 11 17:41:36 2002 From: mike@dvfmv.com (Mike Robinson) Date: 11 Jun 2002 09:41:36 -0700 Subject: [Users] evolution oddities Message-ID: <1023813701.16130.13.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> Greetings all, I posted this question a while back and am still hoping for a reply. I'm running Evolution 1.0.5 on RH 7.2. After doing a Redcarpet update, Evo is slightly broken. Hyperlinks in email, either in the preview pane or an opened message no longer launch the browser (Mozilla now at 1.0, same problem with the prior ver tho). The other issue is New appointments created after the update show up as "untitled" when the reminder pops up. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling Evolution to no effect. Should I be looking at something in the $HOME/evolution dir? I looked at the URL Handlers item in the Control Center, but the default is: mozilla --newwin "%s", which I assume is OK. Thanx for any help. -- Mike Robinson System/Network Administrator, Draper Valley Farms mike@dvfmv.com 360-424-7947 From mtgordon@ximian.com Tue Jun 11 18:30:30 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 11 Jun 2002 13:30:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] installing gnome abruptly crashes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023816656.25231.105.camel@metric> One thing that is known to crash the installer is a corrupt rpm database (which might be a result of the royal screwage you mentioned). rpm --rebuilddb (run as root) might help the installer. -Mark Gordon On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 10:28, David Strozzi wrote: > Hi, > > I'm following the gnome install directions from www.gnome.org, which use > links (or lynx) and ximian. Everything seems to be going fine, and then > suddenly the installer quits. It downloads all the packages, and about > halfway through verifying them it just stops and leaves links. Below is > what appears in the xterm I started links from. > > I'm using redhat 7.2, but I must admit I've royally screwed things up on > my system. In particular, I started removing the gnome packages that > originally were on my system (since I was running out of HD space while > compiling gcc, and at the time was a KDE fan. I repent the error of my > ways!) > > > I can send you the logfile, but it doesn't seem helpful. It has the seem > thing about 30 times, and then something which seems like good news: > ( > rc_verify_md5: good md5 > rc_verify_size: good size check > ) > > Either way, the terminal after it quits: > > > go-gnome: 4.0.6 (Thu May 30 12:36:01 EDT 2002) > > I am now fetching the Ximian Desktop graphical installer. > This can take a few minutes, so please be patient. > > http://red-carpet.ximian.com/installers/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386.gz > (2241K) > /var/cache/redcarpet/ins [########################] 2241K | 177.46K/s > 2295158 bytes transferred in 12.63 sec (177.45k/sec) > > Installer extracted into /var/cache/redcarpet/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386 > Log of install will be in /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 > sh: line 1581: 1208 Segmentation fault (core dumped) > GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=1 $INSTALLER -m "$@" >$LOGFILE 2>&1 > > The installer appears to have encountered an error. > Please check /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 for details. > > Cleaning up temporary files... done. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From steve.blackwell@eer.com Tue Jun 11 08:21:51 2002 From: steve.blackwell@eer.com (Steve Blackwell) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 03:21:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] Upgrading RH7.1 system Message-ID: <3D05A50F.8080705@eer.com> What is the recommended method of upgrading a Ximian RH7.1 system to a Ximian RH7.2 system? I seem to remember that people had suggested removing all the packages that contain a ximian tag, upgrading RH and then reinstalling the ximian packages. Is this still considered the best way? Can Red Carpet be used to do it? On a related note; a question for the Ximian folks. It appears that GNOME 2 will soon be unleashed on the masses. Does Ximian have an upgrade process defined to get all the 1.4 users up to the 2.0 version? Steve From jhessel@mail.utexas.edu Tue Jun 11 20:33:15 2002 From: jhessel@mail.utexas.edu (Jay Hesselberth) Date: 11 Jun 2002 14:33:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] Ximian install hoses RedHat 7.3 Message-ID: <1023823995.20370.4.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> I've just installed Ximian several times on a fresh install of RedHat 7.3 using go-gnome.com. I've tried both the full install and the Evolution only install. Both of the above install the *last* package endlessly, that is the progress bar for the last package goes over and over ... In addition, running the full install repeatedly installs more and more packages, which apparently weren't installed by the first run? Once installed, some things function (evo and mozilla), but galeon for example couldn't find mozilla libs, ever after updating mozilla with red-carpet. I assume this is being worked on, but be wary of ximian installs on RH 7.3 for now. Thanks, Jay Hesselberth -- From ruediger.dohmhardt@freenet.de Tue Jun 11 20:51:42 2002 From: ruediger.dohmhardt@freenet.de (Ruediger Dohmhardt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:51:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] Why is /tmp/.esd/socket not removed? Message-ID: <3D0654CE.9030605@freenet.de> Hi mailing list members, in my Ximian-Gnome (Suse 7.2, Kernel 2.4.18) I have problems with audio (or sound). Before I log-off I must remove /tmp/.esd/socket, otherwise other users, logging in, do not have audio. So, before log-out what I usually need to do not to lock audio for myself is ls -l srwxrwxrwx 1 rudi users 0 Jun 11 21:12 /tmp/.esd/socket rm /tmp/.esd/socket My question: Who generates "socket"? ALSA or Gnome? What is wrong that socket is not removed automatically? Any hints would be appreciated! Ruediger D. From chrisdodd@mac.com Tue Jun 11 20:53:18 2002 From: chrisdodd@mac.com (Chris Dodd) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:53:18 -0500 Subject: [Users] Ximian install hoses RedHat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1023823995.20370.4.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> Message-ID: Hmm, I installed it on Monday and I had no issues, I did the 'normal' install, and then added some other things I wanted later. Perhaps a few packages they added recently cause problems? Christina On 6/11/02 2:33 PM, "Jay Hesselberth" wrote: > I've just installed Ximian several times on a fresh install of RedHat > 7.3 using go-gnome.com. > > I've tried both the full install and the Evolution only install. > > Both of the above install the *last* package endlessly, that is the > progress bar for the last package goes over and over ... > > In addition, running the full install repeatedly installs more and more > packages, which apparently weren't installed by the first run? > > Once installed, some things function (evo and mozilla), but galeon for > example couldn't find mozilla libs, ever after updating mozilla with > red-carpet. > > I assume this is being worked on, but be wary of ximian installs on RH > 7.3 for now. > > Thanks, > > Jay Hesselberth From neetinbhagat@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 21:01:23 2002 From: neetinbhagat@yahoo.com (Nitin Bhagat) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] Notification for B'day, anniversary, etc. In-Reply-To: <1023813701.16130.13.camel@MikesDesk.dvfmv.com> Message-ID: <20020611200123.34678.qmail@web10802.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I am a new user to evolution. I could figure out to the extent that I can start using. For this I have a querry. In sun OS: thereis a command called "calendar" which can be used to get notification of aniversaries, b'days. Is there some way to get this facility in evolution. And if there is, how do i do that?? your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanx, Neetin. =============== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From walovaton@yahoo.com.mx Tue Jun 11 21:06:50 2002 From: walovaton@yahoo.com.mx (William Lovaton) Date: 11 Jun 2002 15:06:50 -0500 Subject: [Users] Annoying behaviour in galeon Message-ID: <1023826018.8783.10.camel@sdes02> Hello, How can I see/save the HTLM source of the cached page instead of the page that is on the web server??? Galeon always browse to the web server to show the source of the page that you are viewing. Sometimes, this pages are generated by scripts made on PHP, JPS, servlets, etc. So, it is possible that the page you are seeing on galeon is totally different to the HTML source. May be this is a mozilla issue... but it would be really nice if galeon could act as the same way Internet Explorer does. William. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mtgordon@ximian.com Tue Jun 11 21:03:13 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 11 Jun 2002 16:03:13 -0400 Subject: [Users] Ximian install hoses RedHat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1023823995.20370.4.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> References: <1023823995.20370.4.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <1023825819.25230.270.camel@metric> On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:33, Jay Hesselberth wrote: > I've just installed Ximian several times on a fresh install of RedHat > 7.3 using go-gnome.com. > > I've tried both the full install and the Evolution only install. > > Both of the above install the *last* package endlessly, that is the > progress bar for the last package goes over and over ... What is the package, out of curiosity? > In addition, running the full install repeatedly installs more and more > packages, which apparently weren't installed by the first run? Again, I'm curious which packages. > Once installed, some things function (evo and mozilla), but galeon for > example couldn't find mozilla libs, ever after updating mozilla with > red-carpet. If you have MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME set, please unset it. This causes galeon to look in the wrong place for mozilla libraries. This tends to break mozilla plug-ins, though, which seems to be a more general issue with mozilla 1.0. For now, you can probably work around it by making /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0/plugins a symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. A better solution may exist in future mozilla packages. > I assume this is being worked on, but be wary of ximian installs on RH > 7.3 for now. > > Thanks, > > Jay Hesselberth -Mark Gordon From jhessel@mail.utexas.edu Tue Jun 11 20:53:06 2002 From: jhessel@mail.utexas.edu (Jay Hesselberth) Date: 11 Jun 2002 14:53:06 -0500 Subject: [Users] Ximian install hoses RedHat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1023825819.25230.270.camel@metric> References: <1023823995.20370.4.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> <1023825819.25230.270.camel@metric> Message-ID: <1023825186.20370.8.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> In the full install, it was gnome-core. The progress bar went so many times I finally killed the install. After re-running, it pulled in an additional ~80 packages that it hadn't apparently installed previously. In the evo-only install, I think it was a bonobo package, but can't remember exactly. On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:03, Mark Gordon wrote: > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:33, Jay Hesselberth wrote: > > I've just installed Ximian several times on a fresh install of RedHat > > 7.3 using go-gnome.com. > > > > I've tried both the full install and the Evolution only install. > > > > Both of the above install the *last* package endlessly, that is the > > progress bar for the last package goes over and over ... > > What is the package, out of curiosity? > > > In addition, running the full install repeatedly installs more and more > > packages, which apparently weren't installed by the first run? > > Again, I'm curious which packages. > > > Once installed, some things function (evo and mozilla), but galeon for > > example couldn't find mozilla libs, ever after updating mozilla with > > red-carpet. > > If you have MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME set, please unset it. This causes galeon > to look in the wrong place for mozilla libraries. This tends to break > mozilla plug-ins, though, which seems to be a more general issue with > mozilla 1.0. For now, you can probably work around it by making > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0/plugins a symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. A > better solution may exist in future mozilla packages. > > > I assume this is being worked on, but be wary of ximian installs on RH > > 7.3 for now. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jay Hesselberth > > -Mark Gordon > -- ________________________________________________ Jay Hesselberth jhessel@mail.utexas.edu University of Texas (512) 471-6445 2500 Speedway / A4800 Austin, TX 78712 From chema@ximian.com Tue Jun 11 21:15:21 2002 From: chema@ximian.com (Chema Celorio) Date: 11 Jun 2002 15:15:21 -0500 Subject: [Users] Re: Annoying behaviour in galeon In-Reply-To: <1023826018.8783.10.camel@sdes02> References: <1023826018.8783.10.camel@sdes02> Message-ID: <1023826523.30227.5.camel@trunk> It is a mozilla issue, there is a VERY LONG bug about it in their bugzilla. The solution isn't trivial but people are looking into it. regards, Chema On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:06, William Lovaton wrote: > Hello, > > How can I see/save the HTLM source of the cached page instead of the > page that is on the web server??? > > Galeon always browse to the web server to show the source of the page > that you are viewing. Sometimes, this pages are generated by scripts > made on PHP, JPS, servlets, etc. So, it is possible that the page you > are seeing on galeon is totally different to the HTML source. > > May be this is a mozilla issue... but it would be really nice if galeon > could act as the same way Internet Explorer does. > > > William. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- From mtgordon@ximian.com Tue Jun 11 21:21:40 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 11 Jun 2002 16:21:40 -0400 Subject: [Users] Ximian install hoses RedHat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1023825186.20370.8.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> References: <1023823995.20370.4.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> <1023825819.25230.270.camel@metric> <1023825186.20370.8.camel@io.icmb.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <1023826905.25217.292.camel@metric> What do you get from "rpm -q scrollkeeper"? I've seen some problems involving that package recently, and it's called in the postinst of gnome-core, among other packages. -Mark Gordon On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:53, Jay Hesselberth wrote: > In the full install, it was gnome-core. The progress bar went so many > times I finally killed the install. After re-running, it pulled in an > additional ~80 packages that it hadn't apparently installed previously. > > In the evo-only install, I think it was a bonobo package, but can't > remember exactly. > > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:03, Mark Gordon wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:33, Jay Hesselberth wrote: > > > I've just installed Ximian several times on a fresh install of RedHat > > > 7.3 using go-gnome.com. > > > > > > I've tried both the full install and the Evolution only install. > > > > > > Both of the above install the *last* package endlessly, that is the > > > progress bar for the last package goes over and over ... > > > > What is the package, out of curiosity? > > > > > In addition, running the full install repeatedly installs more and more > > > packages, which apparently weren't installed by the first run? > > > > Again, I'm curious which packages. > > > > > Once installed, some things function (evo and mozilla), but galeon for > > > example couldn't find mozilla libs, ever after updating mozilla with > > > red-carpet. > > > > If you have MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME set, please unset it. This causes galeon > > to look in the wrong place for mozilla libraries. This tends to break > > mozilla plug-ins, though, which seems to be a more general issue with > > mozilla 1.0. For now, you can probably work around it by making > > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0/plugins a symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. A > > better solution may exist in future mozilla packages. > > > > > I assume this is being worked on, but be wary of ximian installs on RH > > > 7.3 for now. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Jay Hesselberth > > > > -Mark Gordon > > > -- > ________________________________________________ > Jay Hesselberth jhessel@mail.utexas.edu > > University of Texas (512) 471-6445 > 2500 Speedway / A4800 > Austin, TX 78712 > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From alex@openup.com Tue Jun 11 21:18:48 2002 From: alex@openup.com (Alex Duggan) Date: 11 Jun 2002 16:18:48 -0400 Subject: [Users] Re: Annoying behaviour in galeon In-Reply-To: <1023826523.30227.5.camel@trunk> References: <1023826018.8783.10.camel@sdes02> <1023826523.30227.5.camel@trunk> Message-ID: <1023826744.25206.2.camel@astrolinux.com> This bug has been fixed in recent versions of mozilla. Galeon-1.2.3 and 1.2.5 can view the page source of a cached page. Alex On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 16:15, Chema Celorio wrote: > It is a mozilla issue, there is a VERY LONG bug about it in their > bugzilla. The solution isn't trivial but people are looking into it. > > regards, > Chema > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 15:06, William Lovaton wrote: > > Hello, > > > > How can I see/save the HTLM source of the cached page instead of the > > page that is on the web server??? > > > > Galeon always browse to the web server to show the source of the page > > that you are viewing. Sometimes, this pages are generated by scripts > > made on PHP, JPS, servlets, etc. So, it is possible that the page you > > are seeing on galeon is totally different to the HTML source. > > > > May be this is a mozilla issue... but it would be really nice if galeon > > could act as the same way Internet Explorer does. > > > > > > William. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- -- -- Alex Duggan http://www.astrolinux.com -- -- From rscrawford@mossroot.com Tue Jun 11 21:22:56 2002 From: rscrawford@mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:22:56 -0700 Subject: [Users] Upgrading RH7.1 system In-Reply-To: <3D05A50F.8080705@eer.com> References: <3D05A50F.8080705@eer.com> Message-ID: <20020611202256.GA23875@mossroot> I upgraded successfully from RH7.1 to RH7.2 with Ximian products on my system by sticking the CD-ROM in and clicking "Upgrade". Your mileage may vary, however. I haven't experienced any major problems, but you might, so don't consider my experience authoritative. On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 03:21:51AM -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote: > What is the recommended method of upgrading a Ximian RH7.1 system to a > Ximian RH7.2 system? > > I seem to remember that people had suggested removing all the packages > that contain a ximian tag, upgrading RH and then reinstalling the ximian > packages. Is this still considered the best way? > Can Red Carpet be used to do it? > > On a related note; a question for the Ximian folks. It appears that > GNOME 2 will soon be unleashed on the masses. Does Ximian have an > upgrade process defined to get all the 1.4 users up to the 2.0 version? > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford mailto:rscrawford@mossroot.com http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Yahoo!: rscrawford MSN: underpope@hotmail.com "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery vi vi vi - the editor of the beast From walovaton@yahoo.com.mx Tue Jun 11 21:46:30 2002 From: walovaton@yahoo.com.mx (William Lovaton) Date: 11 Jun 2002 15:46:30 -0500 Subject: [Users] Failing connections in Red Carpet Message-ID: <1023828396.8783.23.camel@sdes02> Hello Ximian Inc. I'm trying to connect to red-carpet services and I got this error while it is connecting to OpenOffice channel: Details: URL: http://mirror.pa.msu.edu/ximian//openoffice/all-rpms/packageinfo.xml.gz Error: File not found - 404 Not Found The situation is very strange... I started RC and it showed me that there wasn't any upgrade available, then I forced it to refrseh and after a few seconds it downloaded several upgrades information in the Ximian Desktop Channel, first I upgrade RedCarpet to 1.3.2, I close red carpet and restart it... ... and surprise! there is no upgrades in Ximian Desktop, I tried everything I know, view -> refresh, I eresed the .xml.gz files and nothing! I can't get any upgrade. Is ther a problem with Red Carpet servers?? William. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From doug@is.tsbbank.co.nz Wed Jun 12 05:21:50 2002 From: doug@is.tsbbank.co.nz (Doug Herbert) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:21:50 +1200 Subject: [Users] Evolution, nfs mounted home directory Message-ID: <00b601c211c8$acb5eb50$265aa8c0@tsbbank.co.nz> Has anybody experienced problems, when using Evolution on mounted NFS drives. I have a diskless Linux workstation, as per the ltsp project, that mounts its drives to a server using NFS. Applications run locally on the workstation and I have only come across this problem with Evolution. The home directory is read/writable - I can see the files calendar.ics and tasks.ics, from the workstation shell. When I fire up Evolution, I get error messages, saying it cannot locate these two files. Apart from that , Evolution can send & receive emails fine. Running on the server it is fine, RedHat 7.3. Version is 1.0.3 ( RedHat build 1.0.3-4 ) I have been through a strace debug output and cannot see any relevant errors, though I see no mention of Evolution trying to open these files. Also, traced using ethereal but cannot see a request for these files on the lan interface. I can run many other apps on the workstation without problem. I am a little suspicous of oafd, bonobo & GConf, as they all seem involved using socket comms, though I do not how to debug this part of things. Any thoughts ... Regards Doug. From infidel@inbox.lv Wed Jun 12 07:58:11 2002 From: infidel@inbox.lv (Cliff Wells) Date: 11 Jun 2002 23:58:11 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ximian Mozilla 1.0 apparently breaks Evolution In-Reply-To: <20020611143716.EEE626DACE@www.fastmail.fm> References: <20020611143716.EEE626DACE@www.fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <1023865093.5109.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 07:37, Rick Friedman wrote: > My question is... how did you upgrade Mozilla to version 1.0 through > Red-Carpet?? I don't see version 1.0 listed anywhere in Red-Carpet! > > Rick > > On 10 Jun 2002 11:53:58 -0700, "Michael J. Ayers" > said: > > I upgraded via red-carpet today and when it installed Moz 1.0 for > > ximian > > it broke wombat....which evolution needs to run. Specifically it cant > > find a library file that normally comes with mozilla-nspr that wombat > > requires to run. Has anyone else run into this problem and if so...how > > did you fix it? It's there right now, in the Ximian GNOME Desktop channel. Anyway, I had the same thing happen to me. Installed Mozilla 1.0.x via Red Carpet and it killed Evolution. I spent some time trying to fix things, but gave up and reinstalled RH7.2 instead. Fairly annoying, but I've done it enough that it usually takes less time than trying to track down broken dependencies (not that rpm isn't a /wonderful/ tool ;). Regards, Cliff From matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz Wed Jun 12 08:32:30 2002 From: matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz (Matt Whimp & Sarah Kemp) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:32:30 +1200 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet - Dependancy Issues Message-ID: <20020612193230.003b0642.matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz> I have been using Red Carpet for a while. Of late, i've been getting odd dependency problems. Updates are refusing to install because of dependency problems. The current batch won't install, because it says it can't find an installable version of: libpng3 bash /bin/sh All of these packages are installed on my system (Linux Mandrake 8.2). How do I pursuade Red Carpet that these files are there? I could do the install manually, but what's the point of having red carpet? Any help appreciated. Matt From chartiep@cybersciences.com Wed Jun 12 09:56:15 2002 From: chartiep@cybersciences.com (Philippe Chartier) Date: 12 Jun 2002 10:56:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet - Dependancy Issues In-Reply-To: <20020612193230.003b0642.matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz> References: <20020612193230.003b0642.matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz> Message-ID: <1023872175.2587.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 12/06/2002 09:32, Matt Whimp & Sarah Kemp a crit : > I have been using Red Carpet for a while. Of late, i've been getting > odd dependency problems. Updates are refusing to install because of > dependency problems. The current batch won't install, because it says > it can't find an installable version of: > > libpng3 > bash > /bin/sh > > All of these packages are installed on my system (Linux Mandrake 8.2). > How do I pursuade Red Carpet that these files are there? I could do the > install manually, but what's the point of having red carpet? I have the same problem with libpng3 since I upgraded from Mandrake 8.1 to 8.2 this weekend. Other things are broken as well. For example, the Gnome "Crux" GTK theme doesn't work : there is no frame and buttons around the windows! The /usr/share/themes/Crux/gtk (where I suppose it resides) and also /usr/share/themes/Default/gtk are empty, no png files, just a gtkrc file. At least, Eazel Blue and some other themes are working. What packages should I install or upgrade to get the themes working again? Thank you in advance! -- Philippe Chartier From borgoweb@borgoweb.com Wed Jun 12 11:01:10 2002 From: borgoweb@borgoweb.com (Alessio Rebuscini) Date: 12 Jun 2002 12:01:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Keyboard layout Message-ID: <1023876072.2423.7.camel@boccia> Is there any way to enable and change the keyboard layouts in the Ximian Gnome environment? My main necessity is to enable deadkeys in keyboard settngs and i did it easily in KDE, but with Ximian Gnome i can find the way. Regards. -- Alessio Rebuscini From sroberts@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jun 12 11:30:28 2002 From: sroberts@dsl.pipex.com (S. Roberts) Date: 12 Jun 2002 11:30:28 +0100 Subject: [Users] How do I unsubscribe? Message-ID: <1023877828.325.15.camel@Demon.Strobe.org> --=-CDPQb3Fc5PJQYgCS0qor Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone provide me with information on getting off this mailing list, please? Thanks for the time. Stacey --=20 Stacey Roberts B.Sc. (HONS) Computer Science Network Systems Engineer --=-CDPQb3Fc5PJQYgCS0qor Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone provide me with information on getting off this mailing list, please? Thanks for the time. Stacey - --=20 Stacey Roberts B.Sc. (HONS) Computer Science Network Systems Engineer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBPQciwfdn4A8qiCO5EQJcUgCgmfPLSxXsuplu/hIftkEVCL3B+84AoM1L PBytOhhozRBvxTOkRfPVl7uu =B9JO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-CDPQb3Fc5PJQYgCS0qor-- From hegardt@mfg.gu.se Wed Jun 12 12:27:00 2002 From: hegardt@mfg.gu.se (Fredrik Hegardt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:27:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Problem Message-ID: <20020612132700.567a9a58.hegardt@mfg.gu.se> Hello! I've just installed Ximian on my clean Mandrake 8.2 installation. However, I can't update anything using RedCarpet... I get the following error message when trying to update just about any package: Upgrading gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.16.0-1mdk => gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1[Ximian GNOME Desktop] There are no installable providers of (any)libpng.so.3 for gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1[Ximian GNOME Desktop] Can't uninstall the to-be-installed package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid. Any idea what might be wrong? Regards, Fredrik Hegardt From dobey@ximian.com Wed Jun 12 16:25:00 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 12 Jun 2002 11:25:00 -0400 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet - Dependancy Issues In-Reply-To: <1023872175.2587.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20020612193230.003b0642.matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz> <1023872175.2587.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023895500.4665.1.camel@beatbox> If you upgrade to the latest Red Carpet (1.3.3-4.ximian.1), by itself, and restart Red Carpet, everything should be all good. There was a bug in 1.3.2 and earlier versions of 1.3.3 that had a bug which triggered this, and is now fixed. -- dobey On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 04:56, Philippe Chartier wrote: Le mer 12/06/2002 à 09:32, Matt Whimp & Sarah Kemp a écrit : > I have been using Red Carpet for a while. Of late, i've been getting > odd dependency problems. Updates are refusing to install because of > dependency problems. The current batch won't install, because it says > it can't find an installable version of: > > libpng3 > bash > /bin/sh > > All of these packages are installed on my system (Linux Mandrake 8.2). > How do I pursuade Red Carpet that these files are there? I could do the > install manually, but what's the point of having red carpet? I have the same problem with libpng3 since I upgraded from Mandrake 8.1 to 8.2 this weekend. Other things are broken as well. For example, the Gnome "Crux" GTK theme doesn't work : there is no frame and buttons around the windows! The /usr/share/themes/Crux/gtk (where I suppose it resides) and also /usr/share/themes/Default/gtk are empty, no png files, just a gtkrc file. At least, Eazel Blue and some other themes are working. What packages should I install or upgrade to get the themes working again? Thank you in advance! -- Philippe Chartier _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From dobey@ximian.com Wed Jun 12 16:25:02 2002 From: dobey@ximian.com (Rodney Dawes) Date: 12 Jun 2002 11:25:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Problem In-Reply-To: <20020612132700.567a9a58.hegardt@mfg.gu.se> References: <20020612132700.567a9a58.hegardt@mfg.gu.se> Message-ID: <1023895506.4669.2.camel@beatbox> If you upgrade to the latest Red Carpet (1.3.3-4.ximian.1), by itself, and restart Red Carpet, everything should be all good. There was a bug in 1.3.2 and earlier versions of 1.3.3 that had a bug which triggered this, and is now fixed. -- dobey On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 07:27, Fredrik Hegardt wrote: Hello! I've just installed Ximian on my clean Mandrake 8.2 installation. However, I can't update anything using RedCarpet... I get the following error message when trying to update just about any package: Upgrading gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.16.0-1mdk => gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1[Ximian GNOME Desktop] There are no installable providers of (any)libpng.so.3 for gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1[Ximian GNOME Desktop] Can't uninstall the to-be-installed package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid. Any idea what might be wrong? Regards, Fredrik Hegardt _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From Rick Friedman" Well, I just fired up Red-Carpet again. I still am not seeing Mozilla nor Galeon in the Ximian Gnome Desktop channel. I've tried several different mirrors with no luck. If anyone from Ximian reads this... any idea why I'm not seeing the Mozilla & Galeon packages?? Rick On 11 Jun 2002 23:58:11 -0700, "Cliff Wells" said: > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 07:37, Rick Friedman wrote: > > My question is... how did you upgrade Mozilla to version 1.0 through > > Red-Carpet?? I don't see version 1.0 listed anywhere in Red-Carpet! > > > > Rick > > It's there right now, in the Ximian GNOME Desktop channel. > > Anyway, I had the same thing happen to me. Installed Mozilla 1.0.x via > Red Carpet and it killed Evolution. I spent some time trying to fix > things, but gave up and reinstalled RH7.2 instead. Fairly annoying, > but > I've done it enough that it usually takes less time than trying to > track > down broken dependencies (not that rpm isn't a /wonderful/ tool ;). > > Regards, > Cliff > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Rick Friedman rickfriedman@myfastmail.com Registered Linux user: #269579 Einstein: "God does not play dice." Bohr: "Stop telling God what to do." -- http://fastmail.fm - Taking the "ail" out of email! From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Jun 12 16:41:34 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 12 Jun 2002 11:41:34 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla Not in Red-Carpet In-Reply-To: <20020612152648.5217C6D9D4@www.fastmail.fm> References: <20020612152648.5217C6D9D4@www.fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <1023896521.26628.65.camel@metric> What distro are you running? -Mark Gordon On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 11:26, Rick Friedman wrote: > Well, I just fired up Red-Carpet again. I still am not seeing Mozilla > nor Galeon in the Ximian Gnome Desktop channel. I've tried several > different mirrors with no luck. > > If anyone from Ximian reads this... any idea why I'm not seeing the > Mozilla & Galeon packages?? > > Rick > > On 11 Jun 2002 23:58:11 -0700, "Cliff Wells" said: > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 07:37, Rick Friedman wrote: > > > My question is... how did you upgrade Mozilla to version 1.0 through > > > Red-Carpet?? I don't see version 1.0 listed anywhere in Red-Carpet! > > > > > > Rick > > > > It's there right now, in the Ximian GNOME Desktop channel. > > > > Anyway, I had the same thing happen to me. Installed Mozilla 1.0.x via > > Red Carpet and it killed Evolution. I spent some time trying to fix > > things, but gave up and reinstalled RH7.2 instead. Fairly annoying, > > but > > I've done it enough that it usually takes less time than trying to > > track > > down broken dependencies (not that rpm isn't a /wonderful/ tool ;). > > > > Regards, > > Cliff > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > -- > Rick Friedman > rickfriedman@myfastmail.com > Registered Linux user: #269579 > > Einstein: "God does not play dice." > Bohr: "Stop telling God what to do." > > -- > http://fastmail.fm > - Taking the "ail" out of email! > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From steve.blackwell@eer.com Wed Jun 12 04:51:27 2002 From: steve.blackwell@eer.com (Steve Blackwell) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:51:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] Problem References: <20020612132700.567a9a58.hegardt@mfg.gu.se> Message-ID: <3D06C53F.2090202@eer.com> I have had similar problems on my RedHat system. (It's somewhere between 6.2 and 7.2, mostly 7.2 now ;-) Here is the message output. Red Carpet was unable to successfully locate all the necessary files to complete this request. The errors and conflicts that occured are listed here, along with a suggested action to take. Failed Dependencies Click here to send a dependency report Installing Xconfigurator-4.9.39-2[Red Hat Linux 7.2] There are no installable providers of >=kudzu-0.99.21 for Xconfigurator-4.9.39-2[Red Hat Linux 7.2] Can't uninstall the to-be-installed package Xconfigurator-4.9.39-2 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid. I have kudzu-0.99.23.1 installed which I am assuming is >=kudzu-0.99.21. I found that the only way to get around this is to remove kudzu, quit Red Carpet, do a rpm --rebuilddb from the command line, restart Red Carpet and finally install both kudzu and Xconfigurator at the same time. Interestingly, if I remove Xconfigurator and then try to re-install it, the problem reoccurs. Hope this is of some help but I have had other similar problems that could not br resolved this way. Steve. Fredrik Hegardt wrote: >Hello! > >I've just installed Ximian on my clean Mandrake 8.2 installation. However, I can't update anything using RedCarpet... > >I get the following error message when trying to update just about any package: > >Upgrading gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.16.0-1mdk => gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1[Ximian GNOME Desktop] >There are no installable providers of (any)libpng.so.3 for gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1[Ximian GNOME Desktop] >Can't uninstall the to-be-installed package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.17.0-1.ximian.1 >Marking this resolution attempt as invalid. > >Any idea what might be wrong? > >Regards, > >Fredrik Hegardt > >_______________________________________________ >Users maillist - Users@ximian.com >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From dstrozzi@MIT.EDU Wed Jun 12 17:21:35 2002 From: dstrozzi@MIT.EDU (David Strozzi) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] installing gnome abruptly crashes In-Reply-To: <1023816656.25231.105.camel@metric> Message-ID: Hi, Thanks a lot for the advice. The db rebuild let the installer move a little further, but then it crashed again. I decided to do it the old-fashioned way and use rpm -Uvh in the direectory where all the gnome packages were installed to. A few minor problems appeared, I fixed them, and now gnome is happily running! One more question: I can't find any of the utils that used to be in the 'system' folder from the foot menu. I did a normal installation (ie, not bare essentials) from ximian and even when logged in as root they're not there. In particular I'm looking for something to manage rpm's in gnome. this used to be gnorpm, but it's not in the menus and it's nowhere to be found on the path either. I've noticed the gnome website and some searching of gnu.org doesn't really mention gnorpm. Has it been 'deprecated' or replaced? Thanks again. ------------------------ David Strozzi MIT room 38-268 www.mit.edu/~dstrozzi On 11 Jun 2002, Mark Gordon wrote: > One thing that is known to crash the installer is a corrupt rpm database > (which might be a result of the royal screwage you mentioned). rpm > --rebuilddb (run as root) might help the installer. > > -Mark Gordon > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 10:28, David Strozzi wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm following the gnome install directions from www.gnome.org, which use > > links (or lynx) and ximian. Everything seems to be going fine, and then > > suddenly the installer quits. It downloads all the packages, and about > > halfway through verifying them it just stops and leaves links. Below is > > what appears in the xterm I started links from. > > > > I'm using redhat 7.2, but I must admit I've royally screwed things up on > > my system. In particular, I started removing the gnome packages that > > originally were on my system (since I was running out of HD space while > > compiling gcc, and at the time was a KDE fan. I repent the error of my > > ways!) > > > > > > I can send you the logfile, but it doesn't seem helpful. It has the seem > > thing about 30 times, and then something which seems like good news: > > ( > > rc_verify_md5: good md5 > > rc_verify_size: good size check > > ) > > > > Either way, the terminal after it quits: > > > > > > go-gnome: 4.0.6 (Thu May 30 12:36:01 EDT 2002) > > > > I am now fetching the Ximian Desktop graphical installer. > > This can take a few minutes, so please be patient. > > > > http://red-carpet.ximian.com/installers/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386.gz > > (2241K) > > /var/cache/redcarpet/ins [########################] 2241K | 177.46K/s > > 2295158 bytes transferred in 12.63 sec (177.45k/sec) > > > > Installer extracted into /var/cache/redcarpet/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386 > > Log of install will be in /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 > > sh: line 1581: 1208 Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=1 $INSTALLER -m "$@" >$LOGFILE 2>&1 > > > > The installer appears to have encountered an error. > > Please check /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 for details. > > > > Cleaning up temporary files... done. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > From michaela@qualitau.com Wed Jun 12 17:29:54 2002 From: michaela@qualitau.com (Michael Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:29:54 -0700 Subject: [Users] virtual domains In-Reply-To: <4420.192.168.0.32.1023805342.squirrel@mail.psysolutions.com> Message-ID: I'm assuming here that you mean that while you have an email address from one domain but you check a different account on a server in a different domain to actually retrive the email. If that assumption is correct, then the answer is yes (at least I can verify it up to 1.02). I had a yahoo.com email address which was specified in my reply-to field, this is where my email was delivered. Then my own server would retrieve the email with fetchmail and put it into a local account. I then used Evolution to retrieve the email from that server. Since Yahoo restricted access to their POP servers I no longer have that setup and my email address is now on the same domain as my mail server. However it is still somewhat "virtual" in that my email address is not an existing account but gets translated to another real account. Therefore my reply-to and username fields are still different, only the domain is the same. The reasons for doing things this way has some history that doesn't need explaining. -----Original Message----- From: users-admin@ximian.com [mailto:users-admin@ximian.com]On Behalf Of Russ Haskett Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:22 AM To: users@ximian.com Subject: [Users] virtual domains is it possible to use evolution with virtual domains? _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Jun 12 17:32:19 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 12 Jun 2002 12:32:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] installing gnome abruptly crashes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023899565.26910.75.camel@metric> Go into the control panel, under Panel, and select the Menu tab. Set Programs (GNOME) to be "In a submenu". There will be a Programs submenu of the main Programs menu in the upper left (using the default panel configuration, YMMV) that will have all the familiar apps. -Mark Gordon On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 12:21, David Strozzi wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks a lot for the advice. The db rebuild let the installer move a > little further, but then it crashed again. I decided to do it the > old-fashioned way and use rpm -Uvh in the direectory where all the gnome > packages were installed to. A few minor problems appeared, I fixed them, > and now gnome is happily running! > > One more question: I can't find any of the utils that used to be in the > 'system' folder from the foot menu. I did a normal installation (ie, > not bare essentials) from ximian and even when logged in as root they're not there. In particular I'm looking for > something to manage rpm's in gnome. this used to be gnorpm, but it's not > in the menus and it's nowhere to be found on the path either. > > I've noticed the gnome website and some searching of gnu.org doesn't > really mention gnorpm. Has it been 'deprecated' or replaced? > > Thanks again. > > > ------------------------ > David Strozzi > MIT room 38-268 > www.mit.edu/~dstrozzi > > > > On 11 Jun 2002, Mark Gordon wrote: > > > One thing that is known to crash the installer is a corrupt rpm database > > (which might be a result of the royal screwage you mentioned). rpm > > --rebuilddb (run as root) might help the installer. > > > > -Mark Gordon > > > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 10:28, David Strozzi wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm following the gnome install directions from www.gnome.org, which use > > > links (or lynx) and ximian. Everything seems to be going fine, and then > > > suddenly the installer quits. It downloads all the packages, and about > > > halfway through verifying them it just stops and leaves links. Below is > > > what appears in the xterm I started links from. > > > > > > I'm using redhat 7.2, but I must admit I've royally screwed things up on > > > my system. In particular, I started removing the gnome packages that > > > originally were on my system (since I was running out of HD space while > > > compiling gcc, and at the time was a KDE fan. I repent the error of my > > > ways!) > > > > > > > > > I can send you the logfile, but it doesn't seem helpful. It has the seem > > > thing about 30 times, and then something which seems like good news: > > > ( > > > rc_verify_md5: good md5 > > > rc_verify_size: good size check > > > ) > > > > > > Either way, the terminal after it quits: > > > > > > > > > go-gnome: 4.0.6 (Thu May 30 12:36:01 EDT 2002) > > > > > > I am now fetching the Ximian Desktop graphical installer. > > > This can take a few minutes, so please be patient. > > > > > > http://red-carpet.ximian.com/installers/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386.gz > > > (2241K) > > > /var/cache/redcarpet/ins [########################] 2241K | 177.46K/s > > > 2295158 bytes transferred in 12.63 sec (177.45k/sec) > > > > > > Installer extracted into /var/cache/redcarpet/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386 > > > Log of install will be in /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 > > > sh: line 1581: 1208 Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=1 $INSTALLER -m "$@" >$LOGFILE 2>&1 > > > > > > The installer appears to have encountered an error. > > > Please check /var/cache/redcarpet/install.log.20020611010350 for details. > > > > > > Cleaning up temporary files... done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From Rick Friedman" Mark, I'm running Mandrake 8.1. Rick On 12 Jun 2002 11:41:34 -0400, "Mark Gordon" said: > What distro are you running? > > -Mark Gordon > > On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 11:26, Rick Friedman wrote: > > Well, I just fired up Red-Carpet again. I still am not seeing Mozilla > > nor Galeon in the Ximian Gnome Desktop channel. I've tried several > > different mirrors with no luck. > > > > If anyone from Ximian reads this... any idea why I'm not seeing the > > Mozilla & Galeon packages?? > > > > Rick -- Rick Friedman rickfriedman@myfastmail.com Registered Linux user: #269579 Einstein: "God does not play dice." Bohr: "Stop telling God what to do." -- Please don't use http://fastmail.fm (I like feeling special.) From bdoan@sicompos.com Wed Jun 12 18:52:33 2002 From: bdoan@sicompos.com (Bob Doan) Date: 12 Jun 2002 13:52:33 -0400 Subject: [Users] aspell, pspell follow-up In-Reply-To: <1019948007.1822.3.camel@colt> References: <1019948007.1822.3.camel@colt> Message-ID: <1023904353.30469.12.camel@lindev02> Dan, It doesn't seem like one should have to choose between spell checking in evolution and developing with php..... I now have to develop with PHP.. which requires me to uninstall gnome-spell, pspell, ect... and I can't spell very well :( .. hehehe It seems like to only way to fix this would be for Ximian to ship PHP(and apache?).. what are the odds something like this would happen in order to get rid of this dependancy? - Bob On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 18:53, Dan Mills wrote: > No, it just means that the version of pspell that php requires is > different from the one that gnome-spell requires. So you have to choose > between one or the other. > > -Dan > > On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 17:03, Ian Firla wrote: > > > > Earlier I wrote: > > > > --- > > I'm trying to understand why installing PHP via redcarpet would create > > conflits with aspell and pspell? > > > > Since installing PHP, pspell and aspell which I had to remove to get PHP > > in, are now demanding that I remove PHP to reinstally them. > > > > Surely they can PHP and Evolution's spellchecking tools can cohabit? > > --- > > > > A bit more digging has revealed that PHP does have an option to enable > > "pspell"... which would suggest, unless I've got something completely > > arse-backward here, that there's something wrong with the rpms being > > offered by Ximian? > > > > Is there a reason for this? > > > > Ian > > > > ------------ > > Dr Ian Firla > > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > -- > "I could carve a better man out of a banana." > --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" From Meph Istophelse Wed Jun 12 19:08:08 2002 From: Meph Istophelse (Meph Istopheles) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] Unable to access packaging system Message-ID: Hey, I've not updated in a while, went to do so & redcarpet gives: Unable to access packaging system The Knowledge Base, set to redcarpet & exact phrase gives 0 entries, & I can't find anything quite related to this. The system is running RH 7.2. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux From mark_belanger@ltx.com Wed Jun 12 19:07:23 2002 From: mark_belanger@ltx.com (Mark Belanger) Date: 12 Jun 2002 14:07:23 -0400 Subject: [Users] composer word wrapping Message-ID: <1023905243.10895.14.camel@zander> The Evolution(1.02) mail composer automatically wraps my text at around 74 characters. How do I change this to either no wrapping or a different number. Thanks, -Mark -- Mark Belanger LTX Corporation From ian@deepsky.com Wed Jun 12 19:13:26 2002 From: ian@deepsky.com (Ian Firla) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] aspell, pspell follow-up In-Reply-To: <1023904353.30469.12.camel@lindev02> Message-ID: On 12 Jun 2002, Bob Doan wrote: > Dan, > > It doesn't seem like one should have to choose between spell checking in > evolution and developing with php..... > > I now have to develop with PHP.. which requires me to uninstall > gnome-spell, pspell, ect... and I can't spell very well :( .. hehehe > > It seems like to only way to fix this would be for Ximian to ship > PHP(and apache?).. what are the odds something like this would happen in > order to get rid of this dependancy? I'm very glad to see this returned to. The answer seems rather unsatisfactory. Surely there are enough people (like the two of us at least) whose development environment is shared with their personal communications environment. I have several computers but I travel, a lot. Hence, my laptop is my life-line. I depend on evolution. I also depend on having my development environment portable (hours spent in airports and trains would otherwise be wasted). Is there a compelling reason why this dependency conflict exists? Ian > On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 18:53, Dan Mills wrote: > > No, it just means that the version of pspell that php requires is > > different from the one that gnome-spell requires. So you have to choose > > between one or the other. > > > > -Dan > > > > On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 17:03, Ian Firla wrote: > > > > > > Earlier I wrote: > > > > > > --- > > > I'm trying to understand why installing PHP via redcarpet would create > > > conflits with aspell and pspell? > > > > > > Since installing PHP, pspell and aspell which I had to remove to get PHP > > > in, are now demanding that I remove PHP to reinstally them. > > > > > > Surely they can PHP and Evolution's spellchecking tools can cohabit? > > > --- > > > > > > A bit more digging has revealed that PHP does have an option to enable > > > "pspell"... which would suggest, unless I've got something completely > > > arse-backward here, that there's something wrong with the rpms being > > > offered by Ximian? > > > > > > Is there a reason for this? > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > ------------ > > > Dr Ian Firla > > > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > > > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > > > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > > > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > -- > > "I could carve a better man out of a banana." > > --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com Wed Jun 12 19:35:25 2002 From: ThomasSpuhler@tusonix.com (Thomas Spuhler) Date: 12 Jun 2002 11:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Users] virtual domains In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023906926.4548.338.camel@international.tusonix.com> --=-HxsTE1W/nV8YUwFCSRbB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Russ: I am assuming you are talking about a virtual address such as xxx@company.com. Well you need to use a MTA program such as sendmail or postfix to receive your mail.(and maybe fetchmail to pick it up from an ISP.) You the postfix/or sendmail probably together with procmail will then put your (user) mail into the home/user/Mail directory or into the var/spool/mail/user directory depending how you set it up. You then pick it up directly from there (MBOX) with evolution w/o using a pop or imap account. When using procmail, you may also want to install spamassassin to filter out the spam. It works really well on my setup. Tom On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 09:29, Michael Anderson wrote: > I'm assuming here that you mean that while you have an email address from > one domain but you check a different account on a server in a different > domain to actually retrive the email. >=20 > If that assumption is correct, then the answer is yes (at least I can ver= ify > it up to 1.02). >=20 > I had a yahoo.com email address which was specified in my reply-to field, > this is where my email was delivered. Then my own server would retrieve = the > email with fetchmail and put it into a local account. I then used Evolut= ion > to retrieve the email from that server. >=20 > Since Yahoo restricted access to their POP servers I no longer have that > setup and my email address is now on the same domain as my mail server. > However it is still somewhat "virtual" in that my email address is not an > existing account but gets translated to another real account. Therefore = my > reply-to and username fields are still different, only the domain is the > same. >=20 > The reasons for doing things this way has some history that doesn't need > explaining. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: users-admin@ximian.com [mailto:users-admin@ximian.com]On Behalf Of > Russ Haskett > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:22 AM > To: users@ximian.com > Subject: [Users] virtual domains >=20 >=20 > is it possible to use evolution with virtual domains? >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 >=20 --=20 Best regards Thomas J. Spuhler Manager International Sales TUSONIX, Inc. --=-HxsTE1W/nV8YUwFCSRbB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA9B5RsRNTJyxguVFsRAumgAKCBFeutjm0112OrtobixdiXvX1/5gCglQBp jcyKuKaWMwIB6CU4L6VqWbc= =YmTl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-HxsTE1W/nV8YUwFCSRbB-- From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Jun 12 19:39:47 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 12 Jun 2002 14:39:47 -0400 Subject: [Users] aspell, pspell follow-up In-Reply-To: <1023904353.30469.12.camel@lindev02> References: <1019948007.1822.3.camel@colt> <1023904353.30469.12.camel@lindev02> Message-ID: <1023907213.26628.126.camel@metric> Various options exist: 1) This is only a problem with Red Hat 7.1. Upgrade to a newer version of Red Hat, and this problem no longer exists. 2) The php that ships with Red Hat 7.2 is linked against libpspell.so.4 rather than libpspell.so.2 (the same is true of various updates to php since 7.2 came out), so it might be possible to install the Red Hat 7.2 php packages if it's not possible to upgrade the OS entirely. Granted, upgrading a Linux box piecemeal may not be a good idea, but it's another option. 3) A compat-pspell or pspell2 package may be theoretically possible. As a minor variation, it may be possible to get both libpspell.so.2 and libpspell.so.4 installed on a system in such a way that both php and gnome-spell are happy. Given that Red Hat 7.1 is more than a year old at this point, upgrading the OS seems to be the best way to fix this problem and avoid further bitrot, which will only increase in severity as Red Hat 7.1 gets older. -Mark Gordon On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 13:52, Bob Doan wrote: > Dan, > > It doesn't seem like one should have to choose between spell checking in > evolution and developing with php..... > > I now have to develop with PHP.. which requires me to uninstall > gnome-spell, pspell, ect... and I can't spell very well :( .. hehehe > > It seems like to only way to fix this would be for Ximian to ship > PHP(and apache?).. what are the odds something like this would happen in > order to get rid of this dependancy? > > - Bob > > > On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 18:53, Dan Mills wrote: > > No, it just means that the version of pspell that php requires is > > different from the one that gnome-spell requires. So you have to choose > > between one or the other. > > > > -Dan > > > > On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 17:03, Ian Firla wrote: > > > > > > Earlier I wrote: > > > > > > --- > > > I'm trying to understand why installing PHP via redcarpet would create > > > conflits with aspell and pspell? > > > > > > Since installing PHP, pspell and aspell which I had to remove to get PHP > > > in, are now demanding that I remove PHP to reinstally them. > > > > > > Surely they can PHP and Evolution's spellchecking tools can cohabit? > > > --- > > > > > > A bit more digging has revealed that PHP does have an option to enable > > > "pspell"... which would suggest, unless I've got something completely > > > arse-backward here, that there's something wrong with the rpms being > > > offered by Ximian? > > > > > > Is there a reason for this? > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > ------------ > > > Dr Ian Firla > > > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > > > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > > > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > > > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > -- > > "I could carve a better man out of a banana." > > --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Jun 12 19:39:53 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 12 Jun 2002 14:39:53 -0400 Subject: [Users] aspell, pspell follow-up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023907213.26530.127.camel@metric> As for why this happened, Red Hat shipped an update to php that included an added dependency (libpspell.so.2) that is incompatible with our gnome-spell packages (which require libpspell.so.4). It wasn't our decision. The php that shipped with Red Hat 7.1 didn't include this dependency. My guess is that the updated php version fixed security issues as well as adding functionality, and it was easier to ship a general upgrade than to back-port the security fixes. -Mark Gordon On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:13, Ian Firla wrote: > > On 12 Jun 2002, Bob Doan wrote: > > > Dan, > > > > It doesn't seem like one should have to choose between spell checking in > > evolution and developing with php..... > > > > I now have to develop with PHP.. which requires me to uninstall > > gnome-spell, pspell, ect... and I can't spell very well :( .. hehehe > > > > It seems like to only way to fix this would be for Ximian to ship > > PHP(and apache?).. what are the odds something like this would happen in > > order to get rid of this dependancy? > > I'm very glad to see this returned to. The answer seems rather > unsatisfactory. Surely there are enough people (like the two of us at > least) whose development environment is shared with their personal > communications environment. > > I have several computers but I travel, a lot. Hence, my laptop is my > life-line. I depend on evolution. I also depend on having my development > environment portable (hours spent in airports and trains would otherwise > be wasted). > > Is there a compelling reason why this dependency conflict exists? > > Ian > > > On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 18:53, Dan Mills wrote: > > > No, it just means that the version of pspell that php requires is > > > different from the one that gnome-spell requires. So you have to choose > > > between one or the other. > > > > > > -Dan > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 17:03, Ian Firla wrote: > > > > > > > > Earlier I wrote: > > > > > > > > --- > > > > I'm trying to understand why installing PHP via redcarpet would create > > > > conflits with aspell and pspell? > > > > > > > > Since installing PHP, pspell and aspell which I had to remove to get PHP > > > > in, are now demanding that I remove PHP to reinstally them. > > > > > > > > Surely they can PHP and Evolution's spellchecking tools can cohabit? > > > > --- > > > > > > > > A bit more digging has revealed that PHP does have an option to enable > > > > "pspell"... which would suggest, unless I've got something completely > > > > arse-backward here, that there's something wrong with the rpms being > > > > offered by Ximian? > > > > > > > > Is there a reason for this? > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > Dr Ian Firla > > > > Robert Graves Trust | "A partial count of the software available > > > > St John's College, Oxford | in just one noncommerical Linux system > > > > OX1 3JP - +44-(0)7855-310565 | would have cost about $1.9 billion to develop > > > > http://www.robertgraves.org | ... the way Microsoft does it" Bruce Perens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > -- > > > "I could carve a better man out of a banana." > > > --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From steve.blackwell@eer.com Wed Jun 12 08:23:33 2002 From: steve.blackwell@eer.com (Steve Blackwell) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:23:33 -0400 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet problem Message-ID: <3D06F6F5.5060403@eer.com> I've seen some problems with Red Carpet in the last few days where there is some problem and RC says to either retry or Cancel. The problem is; there is no Cancel button, only a Retry. When I click Retry, I return to the previous download screen, that has three buttons, Pause, Cancel and OK, but if the problem still exists, you have to try to hit the Cancel button quickly before you go back to the problem screen Here is the output: Error Red Carpet has encountered an error while trying to process your request: Red Carpet was unable to complete a file transfer. Details: URL: http://red-carpet.ximian.com/distributions/redhat-72-i386/gnome-core-1.4.0.4-38.i386.rpm Error: Can't connect - 500 Internal Error Possible actions: Click Retry to retry. Click Cancel to cancel. Steve PS Sorry about the date, I need to reset my clock From matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz Wed Jun 12 20:41:57 2002 From: matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz (Matt Whimp & Sarah Kemp) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:41:57 +1200 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet - Dependancy Issues In-Reply-To: <1023895500.4665.1.camel@beatbox> References: <20020612193230.003b0642.matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz> <1023872175.2587.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1023895500.4665.1.camel@beatbox> Message-ID: <20020613074157.5a82e64a.matt&sarah@email.message.co.nz> On 12 Jun 2002 11:25:00 -0400 Rodney Dawes wrote: > If you upgrade to the latest Red Carpet (1.3.3-4.ximian.1), by itself, > and restart Red Carpet, everything should be all good. There was a bug > in 1.3.2 and earlier versions of 1.3.3 that had a bug which triggered > this, and is now fixed. > > -- dobey That worked a charm. I'm downloading all the updates as we speak. Thanks for the help. Matt From walovaton@yahoo.com.mx Wed Jun 12 21:08:32 2002 From: walovaton@yahoo.com.mx (William Lovaton) Date: 12 Jun 2002 15:08:32 -0500 Subject: [Users] I can't download enlightenment-0.16.5-5mdk.i586.rpm via RC Message-ID: <1023912515.12372.34.camel@sdes02> Hello, I'm using Mandrake 8.0 and I Can't download enlightenment-0.16.5-5mdk.i586.rpm from mandrake 8 channel. Someone at Ximian knows what is going on? Recently, Red Carpet is getting a lot of problems to download files. And it seems that there is no update available since a lot of time in the Ximian Gnome Channel! The openoffice channel isn't working for me... RC always says that it can't find the .xml.gz file for this channel. William. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From axwack@optonline.net Wed Jun 12 21:14:05 2002 From: axwack@optonline.net (Vincent Lee) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:14:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] Install for Redhat doesn't work Message-ID: <200206122014.g5CKE5e01015@mole.e-mol.com> I followed the instruction on the web. I get up to the page where you have to select the source. I am installing from the hard drive but the next button doesn't show up. It says that it needs a source. Is there something that I am missing? Do I need to down load RPM files in addition to what is on the Ximian site? Best Regards, Vincent Lee axwack@optonline.net 203.606.2397 _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com From mrsoto@yahoo.com Wed Jun 12 23:35:55 2002 From: mrsoto@yahoo.com (Manuel Soto) Date: 12 Jun 2002 18:35:55 -0400 Subject: [Users] Installing mozilla1.0 in Mandrake 8.2, Bug notification Message-ID: <1023921355.8754.589.camel@dt01.myhome.org> I have problems installing Mozilla 1.0 from red-carpet (incorrect dependences calculation as red-carpet send to Ximian) but after uninstalling gnome, libeel0-1.0.2-8.ximian.12, eel-1.0.2-8.ximian.12 and gnome-core as required and then installing mozilla 1.0 again all works ok except that it does not create icons to the Menu. I hope this help Ximian engineers Sorry for my English MS From thomanski@gmx.de Thu Jun 13 00:55:08 2002 From: thomanski@gmx.de (Thomas =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pl=FCmpe?=) Date: 13 Jun 2002 01:55:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] red-carpet hangs while loading openoffice channel Message-ID: <1023926108.2067.13.camel@honk.localdomain> Hi, I've been using Mandrake 8.1 with the Gnome Desktop for a few months and am quite happy with it. However, since yesterday I haven't been able to startup red-carpet. It loads a few channels fine, then apparently stops while (or after?) loading the OpenOffice channel: When I bring another window to the front and then the red-carpet startup window again, the progress bar does not get repainted. I've tried letting it download for hours, but it really seems like red-carpet hangs. I thought removing /var/cache/redcarpet might help, but the problem is still there. Any ideas what I might try to get it back to work? Thomas From darren@dzr-web.com Thu Jun 13 01:37:40 2002 From: darren@dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: 13 Jun 2002 01:37:40 +0100 Subject: [Users] galeon-1.2.5 and mozilla-1.0 for Mandrake 8.1? Message-ID: <1023928661.29618.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Are the galeon 1.2.5 and mozilla 1.0 packages supposed to be available for Mandrake 8.1 yet? I see no sign of them on Red Carpet but people on this list seem to be discussing them ... Best, Darren -- ====================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step before failure (Homer Simpson) ====================================================================== From darren@dzr-web.com Thu Jun 13 02:44:32 2002 From: darren@dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: 13 Jun 2002 02:44:32 +0100 Subject: [Users] More about updates for Mandrake 8.1 Message-ID: <1023932672.29618.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Further to my last post about Galeon and Mozilla updates for Mandrake 8.1, I noticed another thread on this list: it seems that the current version of Red Carpet is 1.3.3, but the last released for Mandrake 8.1 was 1.3.2, which is what I am using. Your FTP site also does not contain packages which aren't also in Red Carpet. You haven't stopped supporting Mandrake 8.1 and forgotten to tell us like you did with Mandrake 7.x, have you? Best, Darren -- ====================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step before failure (Homer Simpson) ====================================================================== From qibhom@provide.net Thu Jun 13 02:59:51 2002 From: qibhom@provide.net (Lissa) Date: 12 Jun 2002 21:59:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] PSM Message-ID: <1023933593.1336.284.camel@lodur> I just upgraded my Galeon and Moz from Red Carpet, and can no longer get into my bank. I get a message that I need to download and install PSM (Personal Security Manager). mozilla.org says it is included in the recent builds, and no longer needs to be seperately installed. I use SuSE 7.3. I'm confused, because I've been able to access my bank for about the last 5 versions of Galeon. Is this something I should report to bugzilla, or have I done something wrong somewhere? Thanks, Lissa -- The greatest respect we can have for law and order is to question and challenge the people who are enforcing it. Lenny Bruce From infidel@inbox.lv Thu Jun 13 04:07:10 2002 From: infidel@inbox.lv (Cliff Wells) Date: 12 Jun 2002 20:07:10 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mozilla Not in Red-Carpet In-Reply-To: <1023896521.26628.65.camel@metric> References: <20020612152648.5217C6D9D4@www.fastmail.fm> <1023896521.26628.65.camel@metric> Message-ID: <1023937635.2041.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 08:41, Mark Gordon wrote: > What distro are you running? > > -Mark Gordon RedHat 7.2 (SGI version), Ximian 1.1 from CD. I'm guessing that somehow Red Carpet isn't detecting that you "need" to upgrade so isn't showing you the package. I noticed the same thing after installing Mozilla 1.0 and then uninstalling it - I never saw it again (until after my full reinstall). Even rpm -e mozilla-everything wouldn't make it show up. I wonder if repairing your rpm database (rpm --rebuilddb) would help. That being said, be very careful - as of two days ago, Mozilla 1.0 does totally hose Evolution (and I know which one is more important to me). > On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 11:26, Rick Friedman wrote: > > Well, I just fired up Red-Carpet again. I still am not seeing Mozilla > > nor Galeon in the Ximian Gnome Desktop channel. I've tried several > > different mirrors with no luck. > > > > If anyone from Ximian reads this... any idea why I'm not seeing the > > Mozilla & Galeon packages?? > > > > Rick > > > > On 11 Jun 2002 23:58:11 -0700, "Cliff Wells" said: > > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 07:37, Rick Friedman wrote: > > > > My question is... how did you upgrade Mozilla to version 1.0 through > > > > Red-Carpet?? I don't see version 1.0 listed anywhere in Red-Carpet! > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > It's there right now, in the Ximian GNOME Desktop channel. > > > > > > Anyway, I had the same thing happen to me. Installed Mozilla 1.0.x via > > > Red Carpet and it killed Evolution. I spent some time trying to fix > > > things, but gave up and reinstalled RH7.2 instead. Fairly annoying, > > > but > > > I've done it enough that it usually takes less time than trying to > > > track > > > down broken dependencies (not that rpm isn't a /wonderful/ tool ;). > > > > > > Regards, > > > Cliff > > > From scott@therubberroom.org Thu Jun 13 05:37:05 2002 From: scott@therubberroom.org (Scott Tyson) Date: 12 Jun 2002 21:37:05 -0700 Subject: [Users] PSM In-Reply-To: <1023933593.1336.284.camel@lodur> References: <1023933593.1336.284.camel@lodur> Message-ID: <1023943025.4384.2.camel@metalhead> I experienced this same thing last night. I just uninstalled mozilla-psm and then re-installed it (using Redcarpet) and it worked fine after that. On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 18:59, Lissa wrote: > > I just upgraded my Galeon and Moz from Red Carpet, and can no longer get > into my bank. I get a message that I need to download and install PSM > (Personal Security Manager). mozilla.org says it is included in the > recent builds, and no longer needs to be seperately installed. > > I use SuSE 7.3. > > I'm confused, because I've been able to access my bank for about the > last 5 versions of Galeon. > > Is this something I should report to bugzilla, or have I done something > wrong somewhere? > > Thanks, > Lissa > > -- > > The greatest respect we can have for law and order is > to question and challenge the people who are enforcing it. > > Lenny Bruce > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- Scott Tyson ICQ UIN: 125581 http://www.therubberroom.org From DaDaDom@web.de Thu Jun 13 06:33:33 2002 From: DaDaDom@web.de (Dominik Sandjaja) Date: 13 Jun 2002 07:33:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] red-carpet hangs while loading openoffice channel In-Reply-To: <1023926108.2067.13.camel@honk.localdomain> References: <1023926108.2067.13.camel@honk.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023946414.1723.8.camel@Mindboggling> Hi, I have the same problem, but not always with the OpenOffice Channel but with other channels, too. Since it is always gone a few days later I don't mind ;-) Dominik From goudswaard@bigfoot.com Thu Jun 13 09:15:48 2002 From: goudswaard@bigfoot.com (Sander Goudswaard) Date: 13 Jun 2002 10:15:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mozilla Not in Red-Carpet In-Reply-To: <200206121721.g5CHL4S30630@trna.ximian.com> References: <200206121721.g5CHL4S30630@trna.ximian.com> Message-ID: <1023956149.1194.3.camel@sgoudswa-nl> I also don't have Mozilla 1.0 and Galeon listed :-( Distro: SuSE 7.2. Sander From marwo264@student.liu.se Thu Jun 13 11:46:44 2002 From: marwo264@student.liu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg) Date: 13 Jun 2002 12:46:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mozilla & Evolution problem Message-ID: <1023965204.1424.2.camel@k27> Hi... if the standard/default packages from Mozilla doesnt provide the functionality you need to get Evolution running. How hard would it be to get your functionality into the Mozilla standard source, and at the same time make the e-mail client in Mozilla selectable???? That would solve the Mozilla upgrade problems..wouldn't it? /Mrten From marwo264@student.liu.se Thu Jun 13 11:48:38 2002 From: marwo264@student.liu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg) Date: 13 Jun 2002 12:48:38 +0200 Subject: [Users] Keybingings in Evolution? Message-ID: <1023965318.1431.5.camel@k27> How do I change the Evolution Keybindings?? Im going crasy pressing CTRL+e and only getting a Search dialogbox when I really want to go to the end of the line.. I hate these Windows bindings... can't they be made selectable? or give me a file that I can change myself... /Mrten From klaatubaradanikto@hotmail.com Thu Jun 13 13:30:36 2002 From: klaatubaradanikto@hotmail.com (Gort Gort) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:30:36 -0500 Subject: [Users] Red Carpet - Failed Dependencies re perl-Digest-MD5-2.16-5 Message-ID: On a RH73 system. Message indicates that there are no installable providers. Is this a known issue? I have been getting this error message for around 3 weeks. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From justinalexander@usa.net Thu Jun 13 13:48:02 2002 From: justinalexander@usa.net (Justin Alexander) Date: 13 Jun 2002 08:48:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution Filters? Message-ID: <1023972484.1716.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> In the filter options there are three catagories I don't understand. Score Status Expression From justinalexander@usa.net Thu Jun 13 13:48:57 2002 From: justinalexander@usa.net (Justin Alexander) Date: 13 Jun 2002 08:48:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution Plugins? Message-ID: <1023972540.1717.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Is there any documentation or examples of source code anywhere on how to write Evolution Plugins? From meph@Aeon-AL.Net Thu Jun 13 14:30:35 2002 From: meph@Aeon-AL.Net (Meph Istopheles) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Users] Update: Unable to access packaging system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've not updated in a while, went to do so & redcarpet gives: > Unable to access packaging system > The Knowledge Base, set to redcarpet & exact phrase gives 0 > entries, & I can't find anything quite related to this. > The system is running RH 7.2. I'm not sure, but a response to either this or a similar redcarpet problem came yesterday saying that there was a bug in some verson & that an upgrade should fix it. That worked, but, naturally (naturally for me, as I've had lots of bad luck with redcarpet on various system with different OS's), after downloading updates, I got a new error. This one was a dependecy problem with a Mozilla file. Fortunately, up2date had no problem install 0.9whatever versions RH has available. I'm seriously considering posting on how to just remove Ximian without breaking X entirely. Any chance the Knowledge Base has any info on that...? Not that I hate Ximian. I just find more hassles than I need on boxes where the users are prone to whining. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux From mtgordon@ximian.com Thu Jun 13 14:50:45 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 13 Jun 2002 09:50:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla & Evolution problem In-Reply-To: <1023965204.1424.2.camel@k27> References: <1023965204.1424.2.camel@k27> Message-ID: <1023976271.29388.11.camel@metric> The problem was that the old Evolution snapshots were built against libraries provided by the old Mozilla and stopped working once the new Mozilla was out. There were some problems getting new snapshots, so the problem persisted for a while. A new Evolution was released last night, built from a newer code base than the broken snapshots, and a newer snapshot was built as well (that shouldn't have this problem) so the solution for snapshot users is to upgrade to either the new snapshot or the new stable version. -Mark Gordon On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 06:46, Mrten Woxberg wrote: > Hi... > > if the standard/default packages from Mozilla doesnt provide > the functionality you need to get Evolution running. > How hard would it be to get your functionality into the Mozilla > standard source, and at the same time make the e-mail client in Mozilla > selectable???? > > That would solve the Mozilla upgrade problems..wouldn't it? > > /Mrten > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From mtgordon@ximian.com Thu Jun 13 14:54:01 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 13 Jun 2002 09:54:01 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla Not in Red-Carpet In-Reply-To: <1023937635.2041.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20020612152648.5217C6D9D4@www.fastmail.fm> <1023896521.26628.65.camel@metric> <1023937635.2041.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1023976446.29388.15.camel@metric> If you uninstall a package, Red Carpet doesn't tell you when updates are available for that package. It assumes you only care about updates to packages you have installed. rpm -e mozilla-everything would try to remove the mozilla-everything package. I'm not sure that's what you have in mind. Maybe you meant something more along the lines of rpm -qa | grep mozilla Mozilla 1.0 only broke Evolution snapshots, which are liable to breakage, and which have since been fixed. -Mark Gordon On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 23:07, Cliff Wells wrote: > On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 08:41, Mark Gordon wrote: > > What distro are you running? > > > > -Mark Gordon > > RedHat 7.2 (SGI version), Ximian 1.1 from CD. I'm guessing that somehow > Red Carpet isn't detecting that you "need" to upgrade so isn't showing > you the package. I noticed the same thing after installing Mozilla 1.0 > and then uninstalling it - I never saw it again (until after my full > reinstall). Even rpm -e mozilla-everything wouldn't make it show up. I > wonder if repairing your rpm database (rpm --rebuilddb) would help. > > That being said, be very careful - as of two days ago, Mozilla 1.0 does > totally hose Evolution (and I know which one is more important to me). > > > On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 11:26, Rick Friedman wrote: > > > Well, I just fired up Red-Carpet again. I still am not seeing Mozilla > > > nor Galeon in the Ximian Gnome Desktop channel. I've tried several > > > different mirrors with no luck. > > > > > > If anyone from Ximian reads this... any idea why I'm not seeing the > > > Mozilla & Galeon packages?? > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > On 11 Jun 2002 23:58:11 -0700, "Cliff Wells" said: > > > > On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 07:37, Rick Friedman wrote: > > > > > My question is... how did you upgrade Mozilla to version 1.0 through > > > > > Red-Carpet?? I don't see version 1.0 listed anywhere in Red-Carpet! > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > It's there right now, in the Ximian GNOME Desktop channel. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I had the same thing happen to me. Installed Mozilla 1.0.x via > > > > Red Carpet and it killed Evolution. I spent some time trying to fix > > > > things, but gave up and reinstalled RH7.2 instead. Fairly annoying, > > > > but > > > > I've done it enough that it usually takes less time than trying to > > > > track > > > > down broken dependencies (not that rpm isn't a /wonderful/ tool ;). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Cliff > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From marwo264@student.liu.se Thu Jun 13 15:35:10 2002 From: marwo264@student.liu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5rten?= Woxberg) Date: 13 Jun 2002 16:35:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mozilla & Evolution problem In-Reply-To: <1023976271.29388.11.camel@metric> References: <1023965204.1424.2.camel@k27> <1023976271.29388.11.camel@metric> Message-ID: <1023978910.1424.9.camel@k27> tor 2002-06-13 klockan 15.50 skrev Mark Gordon: > The problem was that the old Evolution snapshots were built against > libraries provided by the old Mozilla and stopped working once the new > Mozilla was out. There were some problems getting new snapshots, so the > problem persisted for a while. A new Evolution was released last night, > built from a newer code base than the broken snapshots, and a newer > snapshot was built as well (that shouldn't have this problem) so the > solution for snapshot users is to upgrade to either the new snapshot or > the new stable version. So I should upgrade to what version of Evolution? I use 1.0.7.99 right now and I can't upgrade anymore because of red-carpet not finding the evo-snapshot thingy.. on your server. I already use the Standard Mozilla-1.0 but the Ximian versions of -nsr and whatever... cause Mozilla didn't install those and thus I got no conflicts that way... /Mrten > > -Mark Gordon > > On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 06:46, Mrten Woxberg wrote: > > Hi... > > > > if the standard/default packages from Mozilla doesnt provide > > the functionality you need to get Evolution running. > > How hard would it be to get your functionality into the Mozilla > > standard source, and at the same time make the e-mail client in Mozilla > > selectable???? > > > > That would solve the Mozilla upgrade problems..wouldn't it? > > > > /Mrten > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From mtgordon@ximian.com Thu Jun 13 15:45:45 2002 From: mtgordon@ximian.com (Mark Gordon) Date: 13 Jun 2002 10:45:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla & Evolution problem In-Reply-To: <1023978910.1424.9.camel@k27> References: <1023965204.1424.2.camel@k27> <1023976271.29388.11.camel@metric> <1023978910.1424.9.camel@k27> Message-ID: <1023979551.29388.32.camel@metric> 1.0.7.99 is a snapshot version. The only reason you can't upgrade beyond that is that there's nothing newer to upgrade to (unless you want the development snapshots). It links the mozilla libraries (libnspr4 and libnss3) statically, so it doesn't matter what version of mozilla you have installed, or where its libraries are installed, or even whether you have any mozilla packages installed at all. -Mark Gordon On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 10:35, Mrten Woxberg wrote: > tor 2002-06-13 klockan 15.50 skrev Mark Gordon: > > The problem was that the old Evolution snapshots were built against > > libraries provided by the old Mozilla and stopped working once the new > > Mozilla was out. There were some problems getting new snapshots, so the > > problem persisted for a while. A new Evolution was released last night, > > built from a newer code base than the broken snapshots, and a newer > > snapshot was built as well (that shouldn't have this problem) so the > > solution for snapshot users is to upgrade to either the new snapshot or > > the new stable version. > > So I should upgrade to what version of Evolution? > I use 1.0.7.99 right now and I can't upgrade anymore because of > red-carpet not finding the evo-snapshot thingy.. on your server. > > I already use the Standard Mozilla-1.0 but the Ximian versions of > -nsr and whatever... cause Mozilla didn't install those and thus I > got no conflicts that way... > > /Mrten > > > > > -Mark Gordon > > > > On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 06:46, Mrten Woxberg wrote: > > > Hi... > > > > > > if the standard/default packages from Mozilla doesnt provide > > > the functionality you need to get Evolution running. > > > How hard would it be to get your functionality into the Mozilla > > > standard source, and at the same time make the e-mail client in Mozilla > > > selectable???? > > > > > > That would solve the Mozilla upgrade problems..wouldn't it? > > > > > > /Mrten > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > From george@gmsys.com Thu Jun 13 16:06:22 2002 From: george@gmsys.com (George Farris) Date: 13 Jun 2002 08:06:22 -0700 Subject: [Users] Bounce mail button Message-ID: <1023980782.25841.1.camel@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Sorry I've not read this list for some time but, anyone know if a "Bounce mail" feature is planned. It would be sooo handy. -- George Farris - VE7FRG George@gmsys.com From thunder@ximian.com Thu Jun 13 16:33:57 2002 From: thunder@ximian.com (Dan Mills) Date: 13 Jun 2002 11:33:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution Filters? In-Reply-To: <1023972484.1716.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1023972484.1716.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6x7kl3jiqi.fsf@localhost.localdomain> Justin Alexander writes: > In the filter options there are three catagories I don't understand. > > Score e.g., "3". You can then do things based on score in later rules. For example, you could assign a red color to all messages with a score greater than 4. It's rather basic, but can be useful. > Status "read", "unread" > Expression I don't know about this one. -Dan -- "I could carve a better man out of a banana." --Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" From michaela@qualitau.com Thu Jun 13 16:50:57 2002 From: michaela@qualitau.com (Michael Anderson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:50:57 -0700 Subject: [Users] red-carpet hangs while loading openoffice channel In-Reply-To: <1023926108.2067.13.camel@honk.localdomain> Message-ID: I'm seeing a similar problem in RC under Redhat 7.2. I get a message saying it cannot retrieve the open-office channel. After I cancel from that it will go on and load the other channels. Michael Anderson -----Original Message----- From: users-admin@ximian.com [mailto:users-admin@ximian.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Plmpe Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:55 PM To: users@ximian.com Subject: [Users] red-carpet hangs while loading openoffice channel Hi, I've been using Mandrake 8.1 with the Gnome Desktop for a few months and am quite happy with it. However, since yesterday I haven't been able to startup red-carpet. It loads a few channels fine, then apparently stops while (or after?) loading the OpenOffice channel: When I bring another window to the front and then the red-carpet startup window again, the progress bar does not get repainted. I've tried letting it download for hours, but it really seems like red-carpet hangs. I thought removing /var/cache/redcarpet might help, but the problem is still there. Any ideas what I might try to get it back to work? Thomas _______________________________________________ Users maillist - Users@ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From jason@jnj.org Thu Jun 13 16:51:03 2002 From: jason@jnj.org (Jason) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:51:03 -0500 Subject: [Users] Nautilus right-click->disks->cdrom options missing. ?? Message-ID: <20020613155103.GA30775@jnj.org> howdy I just installed ximian desktop on a Mandrake 8.2 system on which I was already running gnome. All's well, except when you right-click in the background and choose disks, there are no options to mount the floppy or cdrom. so 1) how can I fix that? and 2) how can I get a permant cd and floppy icon on the desktop which mounts them when I double-click it? That's what I was doing before installing ximian. -- Jason Burnett jason@jnj.org ~ No witty signature available at this time ~ From Rick Friedman" OK... Mozilla is definitely installed on my system. Currently, it is version 0.9.9. I just started up Red-Carpet again. I still don't see any update for Mozilla and Galeon. For that matter, now that I think about it, I haven't seen any new updates appear in the Ximian Gnome Desktop channel for awhile now. Again, I'm running Mandrake 8.1. I'd really like to know why I don't see updates for Mozilla & Galeon. In case it's relevant, I'm running version 1.3.2 of Red Carpet. Thanks, Rick On 13 Jun 2002 09:54:01 -0400, "Mark Gordon" said: > If you uninstall a package, Red Carpet doesn't tell you when updates > are > available for that package. It assumes you only care about updates to > packages you have installed. > > rpm -e mozilla-everything would try to remove the mozilla-everything > package. I'm not sure that's what you have in mind. Maybe you meant > something more along the lines of rpm -qa | grep mozilla > > Mozilla 1.0 only broke Evolution snapshots, which are liable to > breakage, and which have since been fixed. > > -Mark Gordon -- Rick Friedman rickfriedman@myfastmail.com Registered Linux user: #269579 Einstein: "God does not play dice." Bohr: "Stop telling God what to do." -- http://fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html From peter@ximian.com Thu Jun 13 17:29:11 2002 From: peter@ximian.com (Peter Teichman) Date: 13 Jun 2002 12:29:11 -0400 Subject: [Users] red-carpet hangs while loading openoffice channel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023985752.10066.11.camel@truffula> On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 11:50, Michael Anderson wrote: > I'm seeing a similar problem in RC under Redhat 7.2. I get a message saying > it cannot retrieve the open-office channel. After I cancel from that it > will go on and load the other channels. The OpenOffice channel was marked as mirrored, but the mirrors weren't downloading the channel data. Red Carpet was looking on your mirror for the files, but couldn't find them. For a short-term fix, unset your mirror in Red Carpet. The problem is being fixed on our end, and will be complete when a sync to our main servers is done. Next time your mirror syncs from us, the files should be picked up. Most mirrors seem to sync daily, so it should be working tomorrow. Peter From dill@umbi.umd.edu Thu Jun 13 17:46:45 2002 From: dill@umbi.umd.edu (Jonathan F. Dill) Date: 13 Jun 2002 12:46:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] galeon won't run Message-ID: <1023986806.2429.7.camel@amanda.carb.nist.gov> On Red Hat 7.3 when I try to run galeon, all I get is an error pop-up that says: Unable to initialize mozilla libraries I already added /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 to ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig. Looking at "strace galeon" it looks like galeon is trying to find /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0/component.reg which doesn't exist, plus it also tries to find libpng.so.2 in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 rather than /usr/lib. I can send a full strace if someone wants to take a look at it, but it's 116k. [dill@amanda ~]$ rpm -q -a | fgrep mozilla mozilla-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 mozilla-psm-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 nautilus-mozilla-1.0.6-15.ximian.12 mozilla-nspr-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 mozilla-nss-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 mozilla-mail-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 [dill@amanda ~]$ rpm -q galeon galeon-1.2.5-2.ximian.2 [dill@amanda ~]$ cat /etc/ld.so.conf /usr/lib /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt-2.3.1/lib /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.0 /usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib/qt-3.0.3/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib /usr/lib/sane -- Jonathan F. Dill UMBI CARB From it-guy@mrichi.com Thu Jun 13 19:48:32 2002 From: it-guy@mrichi.com (Greg Macek) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:48:32 -0500 Subject: [Users] PSM References: <1023933593.1336.284.camel@lodur> Message-ID: <3D08E900.1090208@mrichi.com> I've experienced this odd behavior as well, when using the tarballs from mozilla.org. I've found (for me) it has to do with certain security library files in /opt/gnome/lib that also exist in my mozilla install dir. Here are the ones: libnss3.so libnspr4.so libssl3.so libsime3.so When these files didn't match or the ones in /opt/gnome/lib were out of date with mozilla's, no security stuff would work. Copy the files over from mozilla's directory, run ldconfig and I was fine again. Then again, maybe putting my mozilla install directory in /etc/ld.so.conf (SuSE 7.3 user here) would resolve this issue as well. Haven't tried that yet :-) Greg Lissa wrote: > > I just upgraded my Galeon and Moz from Red Carpet, and can no longer get > into my bank. I get a message that I need to download and install PSM > (Personal Security Manager). mozilla.org says it is included in the > recent builds, and no longer needs to be seperately installed. > > I use SuSE 7.3. > > I'm confused, because I've been able to access my bank for about the > last 5 versions of Galeon. > > Is this something I should report to bugzilla, or have I done something > wrong somewhere? > > Thanks, > Lissa > From m-herron@northwestern.edu Thu Jun 13 20:11:19 2002 From: m-herron@northwestern.edu (Michael Herron) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:11:19 -0500 Subject: [Users] mozilla PSM not found (?) Message-ID: <3D08EE57.5070007@northwestern.edu> Hello. I have mozilla 1.0 installed from red carpet. When I try to access a secure url that I use frequently I get a message about having to download and install the mozilla PSM ("This document cannot be displayed...") But, [herron@brahms herron]# rpm -qa | grep mozilla mozilla-psm-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 mozilla-mail-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 mozilla-nspr-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 mozilla-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 kdebindings-kmozilla-2.2.2-1 nautilus-mozilla-1.0.6-ximian.12 mozilla-nss-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 [herron@brahms herron]# it looks like mozilla-psm is already installed. Do I need to configure it or is something else wrong? thanks, michael From tpibil@comcast.net Thu Jun 13 20:17:54 2002 From: tpibil@comcast.net (Ted Pibil) Date: 13 Jun 2002 15:17:54 -0400 Subject: [Users] mozilla PSM not found (?) In-Reply-To: <3D08EE57.5070007@northwestern.edu> References: <3D08EE57.5070007@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <1023995875.7967.0.camel@vega.assurenet.com> Go into Red Carpet and uninstall PSM. Then re-install it. On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 15:11, Michael Herron wrote: > Hello. > > I have mozilla 1.0 installed from red carpet. When I try to access a > secure url that I use frequently I get a message about having to > download and install the mozilla PSM ("This document cannot be > displayed...") > > But, > > [herron@brahms herron]# rpm -qa | grep mozilla > mozilla-psm-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > mozilla-mail-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > mozilla-nspr-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > mozilla-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > kdebindings-kmozilla-2.2.2-1 > nautilus-mozilla-1.0.6-ximian.12 > mozilla-nss-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > [herron@brahms herron]# > > it looks like mozilla-psm is already installed. Do I need to configure > it or is something else wrong? > > thanks, > > michael > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From m-herron@northwestern.edu Thu Jun 13 20:25:41 2002 From: m-herron@northwestern.edu (Michael Herron) Date: 13 Jun 2002 14:25:41 -0500 Subject: [Users] mozilla PSM not found (?) In-Reply-To: <1023995875.7967.0.camel@vega.assurenet.com> References: <3D08EE57.5070007@northwestern.edu> <1023995875.7967.0.camel@vega.assurenet.com> Message-ID: <1023996341.3705.1.camel@brahms.polisci.nwu.edu> Worked. Thanks. mh On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 14:17, Ted Pibil wrote: > Go into Red Carpet and uninstall PSM. Then re-install it. > > On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 15:11, Michael Herron wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I have mozilla 1.0 installed from red carpet. When I try to access a > > secure url that I use frequently I get a message about having to > > download and install the mozilla PSM ("This document cannot be > > displayed...") > > > > But, > > > > [herron@brahms herron]# rpm -qa | grep mozilla > > mozilla-psm-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > > mozilla-mail-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > > mozilla-nspr-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > > mozilla-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > > kdebindings-kmozilla-2.2.2-1 > > nautilus-mozilla-1.0.6-ximian.12 > > mozilla-nss-1.0.0-5.ximian.1 > > [herron@brahms herron]# > > > > it looks like mozilla-psm is already installed. Do I need to configure > > it or is something else wrong? > > > > thanks, > > > > michael > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > From sschaper@qwest.net Thu Jun 13 20:27:23 2002 From: sschaper@qwest.net (Steve Schaper) Date: 13 Jun 2002 14:27:23 -0500 Subject: [Users] mozilla PSM not found (?) In-Reply-To: <3D08EE57.5070007@northwestern.edu> References: <3D08EE57.5070007@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <1023996444.5504.34.camel@localhost.localdomain.net> On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 14:11, Michael Herron wrote: > Hello. > > I have mozilla 1.0 installed from red carpet. When I try to access a > secure url that I use frequently I get a message about having to > download and install the mozilla PSM ("This document cannot be > displayed...") > And yet, for me, somehow it is working in Mozilla, but not in Galeon. Help? From vze3fsd3@verizon.net Thu Jun 13 22:40:02 2002 From: vze3fsd3@verizon.net (Peter N. Spotts) Date: 13 Jun 2002 17:40:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Evolution as preferred mail client for Star Office 6.0 Message-ID: <1024004403.3996.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Folks, Anyone gotten Evolution to come up when sending a SO6 text file as e-mail? I keep getting an eror message, even though I have mailto evolution "%s" in my Gnome URL handler. SO is set to use the "default" mail client, although one can specify an alternative. If that's the need, what variable should I use with the % to indicate an attachment? Best regards, Pete -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Peter N. Spotts Science and technology correspondent The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 1-617-450-2449 Office in home: 1-508-520-3139 E-mail: pspotts@alum.mit.edu www.csmonitor.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From raroth7@attbi.com Thu Jun 13 23:32:21 2002 From: raroth7@attbi.com (Dick Roth) Date: 13 Jun 2002 18:32:21 -0400 Subject: [Users] Galeon Strangeness?!? Message-ID: <1024007542.18489.6.camel@raroth.ne.client2.attbi.com> I'm running RH 7.2 with latest Ximian production upgrades. After this last upgrade of Galeon via Red Carpet, I have lost my ability to log into my "My Netscape". First I thought it might be the PSM problem mentioned recently, but after re-installing Mozilla-PSM nothing changed. I brought up Mozilla and found I could properly log into "My Netscape" using that browser, so it doesn't look like a "My Netscape" problem. Any suggestions? Dick From ximian@gavinlaking.co.uk Fri Jun 14 01:13:20 2002 From: ximian@gavinlaking.co.uk (Gavin Laking) Date: 14 Jun 2002 00:13:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] Galeon Strangeness?!? In-Reply-To: <1024007542.18489.6.camel@raroth.ne.client2.attbi.com> References: <1024007542.18489.6.camel@raroth.ne.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <1024013602.2565.7.camel@eventhorizon.hydrogen> On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 22:32, Dick Roth wrote: > > After this last upgrade of Galeon via Red Carpet, I have lost my ability > to log into my "My Netscape". First I thought it might be the PSM > problem mentioned recently, but after re-installing Mozilla-PSM nothing > changed. > > I brought up Mozilla and found I could properly log into "My Netscape" > using that browser, so it doesn't look like a "My Netscape" problem. > Hi Dick, Have you tried executing Galeon as 'root' so that any installed changes can take proper effect? I find that this normally solves Galeon problems. Also when you want to install new plugins to this browser or Mozilla, I also find that you have to download and install them as root or they don't seem to install correctly. Hope that helps, G -- -- Gavin Laking E: me@gavinlaking.co.uk Design Technologist W: http://gavinlaking.co.uk -- From stryon@attglobal.net Fri Jun 14 00:37:27 2002 From: stryon@attglobal.net (Steven Tryon) Date: 13 Jun 2002 19:37:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mozilla Not in Red-Carpet In-Reply-To: <1023956149.1194.3.camel@sgoudswa-nl> References: <200206121721.g5CHL4S30630@trna.ximian.com> <1023956149.1194.3.camel@sgoudswa-nl> Message-ID: <1024011449.31627.20.camel@Gandalf> I'm not seeing them either, neither as updates or available installs. I have Mozilla .9.9 and Galeon 1.2.0 installed via Red Carpet. RH 7.1, Red Carpet 1.3, Premium services enabled. Steve On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 04:15, Sander Goudswaard wrote: > I also don't have Mozilla 1.0 and Galeon listed :-( > > Distro: SuSE 7.2. > > Sander -- Steven Tryon stryon@attglobal.net ICQ 102798975 From raroth7@attbi.com Fri Jun 14 02:02:19 2002 From: raroth7@attbi.com (Dick Roth) Date: 13 Jun 2002 21:02:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] Galeon Strangeness?!? In-Reply-To: <1024013602.2565.7.camel@eventhorizon.hydrogen> References: <1024007542.18489.6.camel@raroth.ne.client2.attbi.com> <1024013602.2565.7.camel@eventhorizon.hydrogen> Message-ID: <1024016539.18489.13.camel@raroth.ne.client2.attbi.com> Gavin-- Thanks for your suggestion. I took it and started Galeon as Root with good results. However, when I did my standard logon, I had the same problem. To solve the problem I backed up my bookmarks and moved them out of the way and copied the .galeon directories under /Root to my $Home directory and moved my bookmarks back where they belonged...and that did the trick! I appreciate your offer of assistance. Dick On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 20:13, Gavin Laking wrote: > On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 22:32, Dick Roth wrote: > > > > After this last upgrade of Galeon via Red Carpet, I have lost my ability > > to log into my "My Netscape". First I thought it might be the PSM > > problem mentioned recently, but after re-installing Mozilla-PSM nothing > > changed. > > > > I brought up Mozilla and found I could properly log into "My Netscape" > > using that browser, so it doesn't look like a "My Netscape" problem. > > > > Hi Dick, > > Have you tried executing Galeon as 'root' so that any installed changes > can take proper effect? I find that this normally solves Galeon > problems. Also when you want to install new plugins to this browser or > Mozilla, I also find that you have to download and install them as root > or they don't seem to install correctly. > > Hope that helps, > > G > > -- > > -- > Gavin Laking > E: me@gavinlaking.co.uk > > Design Technologist > W: http://gavinlaking.co.uk > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users maillist - Users@ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/users From infidel@inbox.lv Fri Jun 14 04:01:00 2002 From: infidel@inbox.lv (Cliff Wells) Date: 13 Jun 2002 20:01:00 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mozilla Not in Red-Carpet In-Reply-To: <1023976446.29388.15.camel@metric> References: <20020612152648.5217C6D9D4@www.fastmail.fm> <1023896521.26628.65.camel@metric> <1023937635.2041.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1023976446.29388.15.camel@metric> Message-ID: <1024023662.4776.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 06:54, Mark Gordon wrote: > If you uninstall a package, Red Carpet doesn't tell you when updates are > available for that package. It assumes you only care about updates to > packages you have installed. Yes, I was getting that impression. So if I want a /new/ package, one that I've never installed, I can't do it through Red Carpet? > rpm -e mozilla-everything would try to remove the mozilla-everything > package. I'm not sure that's what you have in mind. Maybe you meant > something more along the lines of rpm -qa | grep mozilla No. I meant that as a shorth